norwichfox Posted 9 January 2023 Share Posted 9 January 2023 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64217842 Timely... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 4 minutes ago, norwichfox said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64217842 Timely... I feel his tone in the last quoted paragraph, completely disagrees with everything above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HybridFox Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 Ohh Brendan he's not magic He wears no magic hat He could have quit the Leicester He didn't fancy that He walked right up to Vesty He said you'll get me sacked But Top looked at the f****g bill And said sit down you tw*t 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 26 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Or it’s the number of players available? We have something like 15 first team players available to chose from. It’s not about who he can trust, it’s who’s actually fit and available. ..for Gillingham he had Braybrooke sitting on the bench who was fit and available!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 1 hour ago, oxtonfox said: Our squad value under Rodgers has depreciated like a 1980s Alfa Romeo. He’s made a series of very good players so much worse now like Ndidi and Soyuncu. He’s presided over a medical team dealing with at least ten medium or long term injuries every year in the past 3 seasons, many picked up in training. The only player left of significant value now is Maddison who ironically is injured after Rodgers played him at West Ham when he had an issue a few days before, in training! This guy has lost the club over a £100 million in asset value over the last year or so. He has to go. Nail on the head! Yes Brendan you are a decent coach but you’re a bag of balls when it comes to identifying and signing players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 22 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ..for Gillingham he had Braybrooke sitting on the bench who was fit and available!!! Not sure what your point is here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sm1 Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 46 minutes ago, norwichfox said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64217842 Timely... As much as I dislike Rodgers and don't agree with him on alot of things, he's got a point here. Our net spend over the last 5 years is 35M, basically 7M a year. If you chronically underfund the team for that long you're going to go backwards. It happened with Southampton and now it's happening to us. Tielmans will leave in the summer and if we dont strengthen with quality players, so will Maddison. We'll basically be a championship club then. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerard Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 2 hours ago, Nolucklcfc said: Here we go again 🙄 money money money He did fail, whilst I have every sympathy to the inferior budget we have to a lot of team I would say we arguably had the third best squad in the division then. If you look at our players in the first XI just about every one of them would have improved at least one of the big six clubs, the only one who wouldn't is his own buy Perez. Rodgers is a snake as he constantly undermines the club to save his own reputation. He's talking now that he's being asked to perform miracles which is not the case. We've sold Maguire, Fofana and Chilwell for £200m in his time here but that's £200m was really poorly spent by the buying clubs. We still have nine of those players who were in the first XI for the 5th placed finishes and they have seriously regressed under Rodgers. I don't expect any manager to keep making a silk purse out of a sow's ear but he's being disingenuous to suggest that what he's had to do. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cityfanlee23 Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, sm1 said: As much as I dislike Rodgers and don't agree with him on alot of things, he's got a point here. Our net spend over the last 5 years is 35M, basically 7M a year. If you chronically underfund the team for that long you're going to go backwards. It happened with Southampton and now it's happening to us. Tielmans will leave in the summer and if we dont strengthen with quality players, so will Maddison. We'll basically be a championship club then. There is a point here and I do agree somewhat, but it's largely irrelevant when you consider our total spend. Lets pretend a club signs a full squad for 20m, then sells them for 1 billion, and then spends 1 billion replacing that squad, net spend is £0. But they've still spent 1 billion on new players to replace the old. Our net spend is low largely because we've received whacking great fees for players then spent those funds on absolute dross. How much has he spent in total? something like 240m? I appreciate we've lost good players, but we received 160m for just 2 players in Fofana and Maguire. If Brendan/Scouts are unable to find decent players for 240m+ then fundamentally something is wrong regardless of what the net spend is. Net spend is only hugely relevant when considering the fees we have received and what we have replaced them with. If we had sold all our best players combined for say £20m, and then only spent 55m replacing them then that 35m net would hold more weight. Puels net spend was about £20m and he completely transformed the squad, signing Maddison, Pereira, Soyuncu, Evans, Tielemans was basically his signing anyway or atleast played a large part. Edited 10 January 2023 by cityfanlee23 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Claudio Fannieri Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 4 hours ago, norwichfox said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64217842 Timely... We all know this as it’s literally getting peddled out at each and every press conference and has done since the summer, with a very short break for about a month leading up to the World Cup, which coincided with our best run of form and results. Either side of that purple patch and at the same time Brendan has been whinging and whining, we have been appalling……and yet nobody or no mention a few other facts for a bit of balance - - he is one of the highest paid managers in the league. - he has presided over a period which has seen horrendous injury lists consistently season after season to key players - his best mate was hired as head of recruitment and made a complete dogs dinner of the job - he was allowed to revamp the medical team with horrific results and we now have manage to break a number of key assets - his philosophy and obsession woth controlling possession and over coaching of the players has seen many regress and we have lost that excitement and intensity in our play - we have become boring and stale to watch, we thrived off being fearless and wanting to go toe to toe with the big 6 and upset the status quo. We have lost that identity under Rodgers especially over the last 2 seasons - we have given him, his coaching team and his squad one of the best state of the art training facilities in Europe, given he is a man who states his best attributes is the ‘wurk’ he does on the training ground to develop and improve players, he seems to miss out this part in his narrative - he inherited the best squad we have ever had and was then given the backing to go out and bring in players to enhance that squad, he presided over the signings of Perez, Praet, Under, Vestergard, Bertrand, Bennett who have all been poor signings as they have had injury issues, profile hasn’t fitted with team structure or the manager has frozen out. Only Castagne, Justin and Faes have come in and really demonstrated they are 1st choice. Daka and Soumare are now becoming more regular choices. - his treatment of some players has been horrific and his stubborness and refusal to utilise them even when they have demonstrated previously they can do a job is criminal. I would include Soyuncu, Under, Praet, Iheanacho who have all been frozen out at times when they could have been utilised to freshen things up and do a job to protect players from injury or take them out due to poor form, but he refuses to do this even Lookman in parts last season was in and out of the side. I really wish the media would take him to task next time he starts bleating about lack of resources etc and plays back some of these points. Yes there is some truth in what he is saying but there is also some balance required as he has been culpable in some gross mis management of the resources at his disposal since his arrival. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 Parody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elvisfmcfly Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 15 minutes ago, Matt said: Parody. Newsflash braindead if you were a decent coach the players would be better than when you took over and your tactics would suit opponent we played.You’re shit and most of us know it. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 6 hours ago, dylanlegend said: Nail on the head! Yes Brendan you are a decent coach but you’re a bag of balls when it comes to identifying and signing players What is it about his coaching that's decent? The crab football or the impenetrable defence? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 32 minutes ago, Matt said: Parody. He’s right there. Paul Daniels wouldn’t have had us bumping around the relegation places with this squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markko Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 If I was Top, I would tell (not ask) Brendan to stop speaking to the press about this. Inside the club it must be creating negativity. What will any potential new signing think? "I am not going there, they have no money and are going backwards". We have a bloated squad (no European football). That is going to resolve itself in the summer. When we played Fulham and we upped the pace and intensity we looked.okay. That is down to BR. Not being ready for Newcastle was down to BR. I am fed up with him. He is well paid. Earn your corn! We are 10 days into the new year. Have we not identified anyone to come in? That is down to the club. We could do loan deals. We do need some new/fresh faces asap. Even the most perfect of teams will refresh their squads. We have a massive week ahead. We must win one.of the two games (ideally both) to stop this season becoming a real slog! COYB! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 6 hours ago, norwichfox said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/64217842 Timely... Brendyche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 6 hours ago, sm1 said: As much as I dislike Rodgers and don't agree with him on alot of things, he's got a point here. Our net spend over the last 5 years is 35M, basically 7M a year. If you chronically underfund the team for that long you're going to go backwards. It happened with Southampton and now it's happening to us. Tielmans will leave in the summer and if we dont strengthen with quality players, so will Maddison. We'll basically be a championship club then. We've wasted a hell of a lot of money though. There's been no other club in the PL get the fees we've got for our players in recent years and we haven't invested that wisely. It can be difficult, but our model is to scout well, by in young talent for modest fees and they help bring us success along the way and then we cash in when the time is right and use those funds to improve the squad overall. That is the model of many successful clubs in Europe too, but we've let our standards slip. We also are victims of our own success by either attempting to keep hold of the squad and paying them increased salaries which have left our wage bill totalling nearly our entire revenue, any significant net spend is just a huge loss, even when accounting for player amortisation it seems. We need to get back to the recruitment model of the past, we need to put ourselves in a position where we have the financial flexibility to recruit every window and the conveyor built quicken. I'm concerned by a lot of the coaches and other staff at this club aren't good enough any longer, I admire loyalty but there appears to be a culture here where new innovation in the academy or recruitment and analytics seems to not stick around and those that do don't seem good enough but maybe I'm being very harsh there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 Rodgers talking about net spend of 10m is deliberately self motivated and yet another half truth which tells you all you need to know about the man. Why would you want to spend your own money if your own previous recruitment has been so effective that you can effectively spend the profits off sales? Surely that's a great working model Isn't it? You can then reinvest yet again and continue to move forward, albeit perhaps a bit more slowly and to a lesser extent to the mega rich top few. How much of that have you spent Brendan? Isn't it up to around a couple of hundred million or something? Did you forget to mention that? Bugger me! How's that going mate by the way, are you integrating and playing them all successfully? Bet we're soon to make a huge profit on them too, excellent job, bet we're near the top again too, brilliant stuff! 👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dames Posted 10 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 10 January 2023 Feels like the start of the season again. The pressure is on and his first response is to protect Brand Brendan. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 (edited) Whatever people think, spending 15m in the last 18 months was alway going to be a problem. Forget net spend even on gross spend we have been out spent by the top 6 and West Ham, Everton, Newcastle, Villa and Wolves in the last 4 seasons. Whatever way you slice it, whoever the manager is continually sell you best players and spend less the everyone else you are going to find yourself in trouble. Edited 10 January 2023 by coolhandfox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 19 minutes ago, Dames said: Feels like the start of the season again. The pressure is on and his first response is to protect Brand Brendan. It really does and his comments back then aggravated the situation. Maybe it's all a deliberate ploy but it doesn't seem to a) get us any signings or b) get him the sack for gobbing off. All that happens is a spell of horrendous form and relegation becomes a real possibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 (edited) He wants out but doesn’t want to leave his well paid contract. Top needs to sack him for the good of the club but won’t we are in a perilous situation. Edited 10 January 2023 by Happy Fox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyprusFox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 5 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said: There is a point here and I do agree somewhat, but it's largely irrelevant when you consider our total spend. Lets pretend a club signs a full squad for 20m, then sells them for 1 billion, and then spends 1 billion replacing that squad, net spend is £0. But they've still spent 1 billion on new players to replace the old. Our net spend is low largely because we've received whacking great fees for players then spent those funds on absolute dross. How much has he spent in total? something like 240m? I appreciate we've lost good players, but we received 160m for just 2 players in Fofana and Maguire. If Brendan/Scouts are unable to find decent players for 240m+ then fundamentally something is wrong regardless of what the net spend is. Net spend is only hugely relevant when considering the fees we have received and what we have replaced them with. If we had sold all our best players combined for say £20m, and then only spent 55m replacing them then that 35m net would hold more weight. Puels net spend was about £20m and he completely transformed the squad, signing Maddison, Pereira, Soyuncu, Evans, Tielemans was basically his signing anyway or atleast played a large part. I totally understand where you're coming from but we're 18th in the net spend table over the last 5 years which reeks of lack of ambition and bad management from above. We absolutely deserve to be in the predicament we're in and unless it changes very quickly we're destined for the championship. I'm still in the Brendan out camp but in my opinion he can't and shouldn't shoulder all the blame and should be followed out of this club by the hierarchy running it. A complete amateurish shambles and going backwards fast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvisfmcfly Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 Just now, CyprusFox said: I totally understand where you're coming from but we're 18th in the net spend table over the last 5 years which reeks of lack of ambition and bad management from above. We absolutely deserve to be in the predicament we're in and unless it changes very quickly we're destined for the championship. I'm still in the Brendan out camp but in my opinion he can't and shouldn't shoulder all the blame and should be followed out of this club by the hierarchy running it. A complete amateurish shambles and going backwards fast. I tell you what though, if we'd have allowed him to squander more money on his shitty transfers we'd be in a lot worse predicament than we already are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyprusFox Posted 10 January 2023 Share Posted 10 January 2023 1 minute ago, elvisfmcfly said: I tell you what though, if we'd have allowed him to squander more money on his shitty transfers we'd be in a lot worse predicament than we already are now. Couldn't agree more which is why he should've been long gone. That responsibility lies solely with the amateurs running the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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