Brendan Rodgers

[Kilworthfox]

On 01/11/2021 at 14:59, Kilworthfox said:

 

You can't argue with facts, and I see you've made the effort to prove that he is better than Puel, which I agree wholeheartedly. 

 

We have historically not been a title contender, it is sadly true. This doesn't mean we can not be going forward. Some will think, who do you think we are? I think we are Leicester Fu cking City mate!

 

I am sure if you look hard enough, you can find incompetence anywhere, and also achievements like the Charity Shield, which is of no significance to me...

I don't believe BR to be incompetent, but I do believe he is underachieving (therefore this warrants serious analysis to see if someone could be doing a better job), also I do not believe him to be humble enough to search within (A major flaw), to see why the team is under performing (that would be a progressive manager), thus, I have my opinion, that I believe it best for LCFC, and possibly himself that we are to end the working agreement.

 

I see a VERY worrying trends continued from the last 2 seasons.

 

We create very few goal scoring opportunities from open play! 

We believe we will out pass the opposition defence its becoming cringeworthy, like playing Hey Jude when either of the Scousers come to town.

We are over reliant on our star player to produce a "moment" from nothing to win a game.

We can not defend well any set piece.

We very rarely score from a set piece.

We can punish when we press, but we are passive far too often.

We only start playing when the game is gone, or almost gone.

We are becoming an arrogant team, one that I do not like, this comes from the Manager.

 

I believe we are sleepwalking into a crisis!!!!!!!!!

 

Against Arsenal we deserved to lose. We can not defend from a set piece.

Against Brighton we deserved to lose, we punished 2 errors, yet created noting from open play.

Against Brentford we deserved nothing (saved by Tielemans).

Against Spartak we were saved by Daka

Against Man U we deserved to win (Yet they were terrible) Nice to see us press from the front, but have to acknowledge we were allowed too.

Against Palace we crumbled in defence, very very unconvincing...

Against Legia it was a thoroughly disgraceful performance! This is where BR lost me.

Against Burnley we deserved nothing, lucky to escape with a point at home.

Millwall deserved win. (Job done, but it's Millwall in a cup that is no ones priority)

Against Brighton I actually thought we were the better team (but we can not defend set pieces).

Against Napoli we couldn't defend against a physical opponent, threw away 2 goals, see Palace.

Man City are better at being Old Barcelona than we are. No complaints.

Norwich were punished for 2 errors, we created nothing in open play. See Brighton.

Wolves couldn't score, a little like the Brentford game, their attack let us off the hook.

 

It gave me no joy to write the above. I want us to be the best we can be in all aspects of football. Our club has some wonderful aspects, but I believe these are diminishing with every poor result. That I am unable to Forgive BR for, in this "golden age" as a Leicester fan, because the potential at the club is so high, but the results are so lacking. We all know where our best players will be if we finish mid table, it will not be with a fox on their chests, and the Recruitment department, Academy or both, will have a huge job to do, and do it very well, for us to return to the higher places within this division. 

 

Since November 2021, 2 things have changed... 

 

We don't press at all, and the wonder goals are drying up. 

 

Some laughed at me, when I suggested that we were sleepwalking into a crisis 15 months ago.

I'm not laughing now, I wasn't laughing then. 

 

It's sooo obvious that Rodgers is the issue! He has to go. Has been obvious for longer than my quoted post.

 

Please, when we lose to Forest this weekend, and any subsequent opposition who we lose to until the Board see the light, can you make your protests extremely vocal! 🙏

 

This will help bring more pressure to bare on BR as he is a very slippery character who will not change, and will not acknowledge his part in our demise, his ego won't accept the fact, that his footballing beliefs, although inline with current popular media footballing opinions, are not effective especially with our current players, who should be far higher in the league table. 

Edited 12 January 2023 by Kilworthfox

[Dan LCFC]

On the xG point, I use xG a bit for betting and I can't ignore the fact I think there's something in it because I've won more than ever since doing so  but the tables I use place us actually about where we should be, but with these points...

 

- Our attacking numbers are awful, only Bournemouth and Palace have created fewer chances. Although Palace have played a game less, so if you were wanting to win this bald man fight over a comb you would say only Bournemouth create less than us. You have to thank Maddison, Tielemans and to a degree Barnes for our attacking overperformance. The fact we've created the 18th most chances, yet scored the 10th most goals is a huge anomaly, and quite obviously a big problem when we're going to lose two of those in the summer.

 

- Defensive numbers are actually better than last season, but like I said, we now have a worse goalkeeper. I don't think it's exaggerating to say we could be around 9th/10th with an average goalkeeper rather than Ward.

 

- West Ham are underperforming and are likely to pull out of it.

 

- Chelsea have been genuinely awful, amazingly, worse than us.

[gw_leics772]

2 hours ago, gw_leics772 said:

Shortest trawl in the history of trawling.

Would have been even shorter for you.

Just look up 🤣

 

Down this time.

Edit, I get it now, I was wrong. Soz 

 

Edit 2, and I thought I was actually editing. I thing to see here, move on and file under "talks a load of bollocks. Doesn't know what he's on about.

Edited 12 January 2023 by gw_leics772

[Happy Fox]

Rinse and repeat another blame game pre match Interview coming up.

[Daggers]

21 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

Some of the posts in Feb. 2019 seem , shall we say , shortsighted now. I am no fan of football managers and would only give any of them a rolling one year contract. 

Pearson should've been given a lifetime contract with a clause that he was unsackable.

[markko]

I can say what I want to as long as it is not offensive!

[Matt]

3 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Rinse and repeat another blame game pre match Interview coming up.

Media journos giving him a free ride again. No hard questions asked, no pressure applied, sitting there in awe, smiling and nodding.

[filthyfox]

Needs to win against Forest, or he can get the GUCK out of this Club.

[Kilworthfox]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Media journos giving him a free ride again. No hard questions asked, no pressure applied, sitting there in awe, smiling and nodding.

Smiling and nodding like Colonel Gaddafi's psychiatrist 😂

Edited 12 January 2023 by Kilworthfox

[Bordersfox]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

Media journos giving him a free ride again. No hard questions asked, no pressure applied, sitting there in awe, smiling and nodding.

I was listening to radio commentary of our QF against Newcastle as the wife insisted we watch the Charlton QF.  I think the co comms was Steve Stone.  In the same sentence he was deploring our set up, saying the gaps between our lines were huge etc but then saying Rodgers was tactically one of the most astute managers in the league.  He even used the phrase 'tactical masterclass' in relation to Rodgers.  Whilst seeing with his very own eyes, and commentating upon, us getting torn a new one in the first half.  Bizarre.  

 

[Corky]

5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

On the xG point, I use xG a bit for betting and I can't ignore the fact I think there's something in it because I've won more than ever since doing so  but the tables I use place us actually about where we should be, but with these points...

 

- Our attacking numbers are awful, only Bournemouth and Palace have created fewer chances. Although Palace have played a game less, so if you were wanting to win this bald man fight over a comb you would say only Bournemouth create less than us. You have to thank Maddison, Tielemans and to a degree Barnes for our attacking overperformance. The fact we've created the 18th most chances, yet scored the 10th most goals is a huge anomaly, and quite obviously a big problem when we're going to lose two of those in the summer.

 

- Defensive numbers are actually better than last season, but like I said, we now have a worse goalkeeper. I don't think it's exaggerating to say we could be around 9th/10th with an average goalkeeper rather than Ward.

 

- West Ham are underperforming and are likely to pull out of it.

 

- Chelsea have been genuinely awful, amazingly, worse than us.

The last few years have seen us requiring real quality at both ends. I know Schmeichel frustrated us and did regress but he still kept us in matches and won us points.

[ARTY_FOX]

2 hours ago, filthyfox said:

Needs to win against Forest, or he can get the GUCK out of this Club.

He can regardless. 

[fuchsntf]

5 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Rinse and repeat another blame game pre match Interview coming up.

But you and others also repeat & blame every week...Silly ninkenpoops hanging on every word of any football manager...

Poor souls wasting so much time..

Even if he didn't say anything...like a duck chasing his own ar*se..

[Tielemans63]

 

 

 

[StanSP]

Would love Chelsea to go for him. He'd love the chance to spend shitloads. 

[WinslowFox]

Quick hide him

We absolutely do not want Chelsea to come in for him he's doing too well here would be a tremendous loss 

[Guest Col city fan]

11 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

On the xG point, I use xG a bit for betting and I can't ignore the fact I think there's something in it because I've won more than ever since doing so  but the tables I use place us actually about where we should be, but with these points...

 

- Our attacking numbers are awful, only Bournemouth and Palace have created fewer chances. Although Palace have played a game less, so if you were wanting to win this bald man fight over a comb you would say only Bournemouth create less than us. You have to thank Maddison, Tielemans and to a degree Barnes for our attacking overperformance. The fact we've created the 18th most chances, yet scored the 10th most goals is a huge anomaly, and quite obviously a big problem when we're going to lose two of those in the summer.

 

- Defensive numbers are actually better than last season, but like I said, we now have a worse goalkeeper. I don't think it's exaggerating to say we could be around 9th/10th with an average goalkeeper rather than Ward.

 

- West Ham are underperforming and are likely to pull out of it.

 

- Chelsea have been genuinely awful, amazingly, worse than us.

Great post mate. Very interesting. Which Xg tables do you use?

[5waller5]

Anyone use Betfair??

 

I’m new to the platform and it doesn’t quite make sense to me…. Below is the “Next Sacked” book.

 

Lay Rodgers (shudder) looks like 100/1? If I lay a £1 though it gives me a liability of £100.

 

Is that bet there just to clog the system?? I’ve got 2 bets at 28/1 on him being sacked and wanted to Lay the same stake at say 6/1 so I can’t lose.

 

I thought I understood it but obviously don’t!! 

Edited 12 January 2023 by 5waller5

[WinslowFox]

Time for this tune to come out

 

🎼Rodgers you're not the one
Leicester isn't fun
You are taking us down again🎼

[trabuch]

He's a bad manager. Always talking up the opposition and talking down our players. Twat.

[cityfanlee23]

5 hours ago, 5waller5 said:

Anyone use Betfair??

 

I’m new to the platform and it doesn’t quite make sense to me…. Below is the “Next Sacked” book.

 

Lay Rodgers (shudder) looks like 100/1? If I lay a £1 though it gives me a liability of £100.

 

Is that bet there just to clog the system?? I’ve got 2 bets at 28/1 on him being sacked and wanted to Lay the same stake at say 6/1 so I can’t lose.

 

I thought I understood it but obviously don’t!! 

You’re on the exchange, so the £1 100/1 bet is basically someone else asking for that price. So someone has placed an open bet on the exchange asking for 100/1 and they’ve staked £1, the bet then enters the exchange and if you want to take that bet you can lay it for that amount. So these bets are basically open bets that haven’t yet been matched by other punters, so on the blue side, that’s what lay betters have offered to the market, and on the red side, that is what backers are asking the layers to offer them. 
If for example I put a bet up and asked for 50/1, my 50/1 bet would replace the 100/1 bet in the queue as it’s a lower price, but it wouldn’t yet be matched, it would just sit there until someone took that bet, because currently the best available price is 12.5/1. 
 

likewise the back side of the book in blue, that is what someone else has offered up to others, so someone else has offered 12.5/1 upto a max stake of £9. If you took that bet, the next available price offered by someone else would replace that one on the book. 
 

so when you’re on the exchange just think of it as a room full of people offering bets up to eachother. In markets with low liquidity you often get these wild price differences because not a huge amount of people are betting on them. 

also note that you obviously don’t have to have the full £9 bet, if you wanted you could put £5 on rodgers to be sacked at 12.5/1, and that would just reduce the amount available on that bet to £4. 
 

Looking at this book though, it’s a hell of a risk that someone has offered £9 @ 12.5 lol, that’s the beauty of the exchange though, there’s always someone willing to offer a stupid price. 

 

regarding your 28/1 bet, did it get matched? Or is it still unmatched? 
 

Hope this all makes sense, it can be a pain to explain but it’s really simple once you’ve got it. 
 

Edited 13 January 2023 by cityfanlee23

[Dames]

11 hours ago, StanSP said:

Would love Chelsea to go for him. He'd love the chance to spend shitloads. 

Wishful thinking but they've been burned getting a manager from a smaller Premier League team this season. They'll either interim or try for someone they see as a big name thats won it all. 

 

Wouldnt be surprised if for them its an interim until the end of the season then all in on Simeone in the summer. 

[5waller5]

4 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

You’re on the exchange, so the £1 100/1 bet is basically someone else asking for that price. So someone has placed an open bet on the exchange asking for 100/1 and they’ve staked £1, the bet then enters the exchange and if you want to take that bet you can lay it for that amount. So these bets are basically open bets that haven’t yet been matched by other punters, so on the blue side, that’s what lay betters have offered to the market, and on the red side, that is what backers are asking the layers to offer them. 
If for example I put a bet up and asked for 50/1, my 50/1 bet would replace the 100/1 bet in the queue as it’s a lower price, but it wouldn’t yet be matched, it would just sit there until someone took that bet, because currently the best available price is 12.5/1. 
 

likewise the back side of the book in blue, that is what someone else has offered up to others, so someone else has offered 12.5/1 upto a max stake of £9. If you took that bet, the next available price offered by someone else would replace that one on the book. 
 

so when you’re on the exchange just think of it as a room full of people offering bets up to eachother. In markets with low liquidity you often get these wild price differences because not a huge amount of people are betting on them. 

also note that you obviously don’t have to have the full £9 bet, if you wanted you could put £5 on rodgers to be sacked at 12.5/1, and that would just reduce the amount available on that bet to £4. 
 

Looking at this book though, it’s a hell of a risk that someone has offered £9 @ 12.5 lol, that’s the beauty of the exchange though, there’s always someone willing to offer a stupid price. 

 

regarding your 28/1 bet, did it get matched? Or is it still unmatched? 
 

Hope this all makes sense, it can be a pain to explain but it’s really simple once you’ve got it. 
 

Hi Lee,

Thanks for that explanation - much appreciated. That’s also how I understood it. 
Yes the 28/1 was on offer already so I took it and the next on offer was 25/1 so took that one too. 
 

Then I wanted to lay that same stake at say 4/1 creating a no-lose situation. My unmatched offer doesn’t appear on the screen though - still the 100/1 - is that because it doesn’t show my own unmatched bets on the market (to me)??

 

When you lay a bet the odds are effectively reversed the 100 actually means there’s an offer of 1/100 available to accept not 100/1??

 

Does any of that make sense!!!??? 
 

Thanks!!

[gerblod]

On 12/01/2023 at 09:44, Kilworthfox said:

Since November 2021, 2 things have changed... 

 

We don't press at all, and the wonder goals are drying up. 

 

Some laughed at me, when I suggested that we were sleepwalking into a crisis 15 months ago.

I'm not laughing now, I wasn't laughing then. 

 

It's sooo obvious that Rodgers is the issue! He has to go. Has been obvious for longer than my quoted post.

 

Please, when we lose to Forest this weekend, and any subsequent opposition who we lose to until the Board see the light, can you make your protests extremely vocal! 🙏

 

This will help bring more pressure to bare on BR as he is a very slippery character who will not change, and will not acknowledge his part in our demise, his ego won't accept the fact, that his footballing beliefs, although inline with current popular media footballing opinions, are not effective especially with our current players, who should be far higher in the league table. 

He's sulking because he wants fresh players and they're not materialising. At Liverpool it's a constant refresh - they can pay for expensive imports and sell off the underperformers to also-ran Premier clubs. At Celtic he didn't need to work.

Clubs in City's position need to be smart - to use money wisely, find players who have an exceptional attitude, to make a team where the players work for each other. Actually, after the title, money was flung about carelessly. We found some gems - but bought more lumps of coal - and paid them at premium rates. 

I read Rodgers described as a master tactician - in the Guardian, no less. I just don't see that. Judging by the lackadaisical starts we often make, he also can't gee them up. I don't believe he knows how to instil confidence in players. But I became cynical about him in those two games where he left Chilly isolated and exposed against Liverpool and Man City (December 2019?). Those currently ranting about Thomas should be mindful that KDH isn't onfield to protect the left defence or to supplement Barnes. Those criticising KDH need their heads examining.

 

Rodgers cold shoulders good players and favours the 'coasters'. Soumare, Tielemans and Perez have been allowed to be comfortable about not giving 100%. Maddison is the example Tielemans should follow. Never less than committed, resourceful, accurate, tricky and devious. 

Until Faes came along the defence was horribly ignored and it's still vulnerable. Against Newcastle the height difference at corners/free-kicks leaves me questioning how you defend mano-a-mano against such tall, strong opposition. Daniel Amartey is never going to be a reliable centre-back. 

Vestergaard, Söyüncü, Evans - each have become redundant due to differing circumstances and nothing's really being done to rectify that. 

 

The buck largely stops at Rodgers - his prime commitment is to BR and not City.

 

 

 

 

[An Sionnach]

His reputation for cold shouldering will have circulated on the agents and players grapevine.This will almost certainly be another factor in deterring players from coming here. Once again we have to resort to bribery to overcome this.