Dames Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 4 minutes ago, Pliskin said: If there are any stout Rodgers in fans out there I would love to hear an argument from them for him to remain in his post. I’ve tried searching for reasons myself and simply can’t. The only argument they have left is telling you to name a manager that is better and is available now before instantly rubbishing any suggestions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 1 hour ago, phoneticerror said: PLEEEEEEASE let West Ham poach Rodgers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 8 minutes ago, Pliskin said: If there are any stout Rodgers in fans out there I would love to hear an argument from them for him to remain in his post. I’ve tried searching for reasons myself and simply can’t. There isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 5 minutes ago, Dames said: The only argument they have left is telling you to name a manager that is better and is available now before instantly rubbishing any suggestions. Anyone other than BR is an improvement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 13 minutes ago, Pliskin said: If there are any stout Rodgers in fans out there I would love to hear an argument from them for him to remain in his post. I’ve tried searching for reasons myself and simply can’t. F-it, I'm Rodgers out and bored... come get me! Name someone whose going to take over and just think where we were 15 years ago! Do your worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 1 minute ago, Kilworthfox said: Anyone other than BR is an improvement. Not according to some of these guys, you name a suggestion and their noses turn up. Its a weird situation because they believe certain managers like Dyche are not good enough for us but at the same time they are telling us despite the threat of relegation that we need 'perspective' and we should be grateful to be where we are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilworthfox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 1 minute ago, Dames said: Not according to some of these guys, you name a suggestion and their noses turn up. Its a weird situation because they believe certain managers like Dyche are not good enough for us but at the same time they are telling us despite the threat of relegation that we need 'perspective' and we should be grateful to be where we are. It is easy to suggest "example manager" isn't up to the job, but how does that mean BR is? Grateful? Yes I am, to the Thai owners who have lead us from the Championship to Europe. I am very grateful. I am grateful to Pearson, Walsh & Raneri also. I believe Rodgers did well initially, but he never improved on the overall jobs that the guys in the past did. Rodgers was given the best squad we ever had and he has reduced its effectiveness on the pitch with the same old Rodgersball that never changes, and the players values and length of contract remaining are all down to us not progressing as a club, inthe same direction as the individual players aspirations. It is so simple, I am surprised it has taken this long for many fans to become vocal in their protest, but the old skool and vocally passionate fans have been priced out of the game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 7 minutes ago, Dames said: Not according to some of these guys, you name a suggestion and their noses turn up. Its a weird situation because they believe certain managers like Dyche are not good enough for us but at the same time they are telling us despite the threat of relegation that we need 'perspective' and we should be grateful to be where we are. Erm. Sean Dyche is absolutely, unequivocally not good enough for us. If I had my way, even mentioning his name in the same breath as our managerial position should get you volunteered for Elon's next rocket launch. I mean our current manager needs to go but that doesn't mean we want to go out and just hire anyone. There's an entire world of football managers out there. We really aren't just limited to Dyche, Benitez or idk Sam fvcking Allardyce if he's still alive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RonnieTodger Posted 16 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 January 2023 Look at Brighton’s appointment of Roberto Di Zerbi. It’s almost as though talented managers exist beyond Benitez, Dyche and Moyes. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 Just now, RonnieTodger said: Look at Brighton’s appointment of Roberto Di Zerbi. It’s almost as though talented managers exist beyond Benitez, Dyche and Moyes. give us some names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwell 🦊 Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 We should have gone for Thomas Frank before he signed a new contract.Everton will probably sack lampard and go for frank. we’ll end up with Frank Spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Erm. Sean Dyche is absolutely, unequivocally not good enough for us. If I had my way, even mentioning his name in the same breath as our managerial position should get you volunteered for Elon's next rocket launch. I mean our current manager needs to go but that doesn't mean we want to go out and just hire anyone. There's an entire world of football managers out there. We really aren't just limited to Dyche, Benitez or idk Sam fvcking Allardyce if he's still alive. The issue is, when have we appointed someone who was 'outside the box' under this ownership? The next manager who they are, will be someone we all would have heard of. Edited 16 January 2023 by BenTheFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Babylon Posted 16 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 January 2023 1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said: give us some names? Again, it’s not our jobs to even bother doing this. I don’t spend my weekends analysing managers careers, there should be someone at the club regularly doing so though. I don’t mind people mentioning people like Dyche, we’ve reached anyone would be better territory. But I would expect far better from a club being run well, to just go with a name we all know without doing their homework on the rest of the world. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RonnieTodger Posted 16 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 January 2023 3 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: give us some names? That’s exactly my point. How many of us had heard of De Zerbi? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 3 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: The issue is, when have we appointed someone who was 'outside the box' under this ownership? The next manager who they are, will be someone we all would have heard of. They rarely scratch the surface in their homework. So it’s nailed on to be someone like Nuno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 7 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: Look at Brighton’s appointment of Roberto Di Zerbi. It’s almost as though talented managers exist beyond Benitez, Dyche and Moyes. So true, but that would require scouting, planning and delivering. Something we just don’t do anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 8 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: give us some names? Bo Svensson Julien Stephan Ivan Juric Andoli Iraola 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 11 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Erm. Sean Dyche is absolutely, unequivocally not good enough for us. If I had my way, even mentioning his name in the same breath as our managerial position should get you volunteered for Elon's next rocket launch. I mean our current manager needs to go but that doesn't mean we want to go out and just hire anyone. There's an entire world of football managers out there. We really aren't just limited to Dyche, Benitez or idk Sam fvcking Allardyce if he's still alive. I think its slightly elitist given our position. We need a manager that has a proven track record of managing on a budget and making the absolute most of what he has. Yes he probably isn't a long term solution if we want to get back to where we were but in terms of what we need right now arguably Dyche is the ideal candidate. As someone else has mentioned - It doesn't appear that the club does much research into who they hire so we will be stuck with someone we've heard of and out of the 3 you've named along with Pardew, Nuno, Hasenhuttl and Ole Gunnar I think Dyche would be the one I'd rather have. It might be a hard one to take but when have the board or owners ever named a manager that would be considered outside of the box? They sacked Pearson for a bigger name the first time round only to bring him back after failing with Sousa and Eriksson. Ranieri was a big name, Puel had managed in the league previously and Rodgers was the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 13 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: Look at Brighton’s appointment of Roberto Di Zerbi. It’s almost as though talented managers exist beyond Benitez, Dyche and Moyes. Clearly but our board haven't heard of anyone who's not managed in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingkisnorbo Posted 16 January 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 16 January 2023 The “Who can we get then? Name someone?” rubbish seems to have started again. That argument fell to bits ages ago when Brighton, Villa, Wolves etc brought in replacements. Try again. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarehamFox Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 15 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: give us some names? Got to be big Sam! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillippaT Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 17 minutes ago, Speedwell 🦊 said: We should have gone for Thomas Frank before he signed a new contract.Everton will probably sack lampard and go for frank. we’ll end up with Frank Spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: Clearly but our board haven't heard of anyone who's not managed in the PL. This is where we will be restricted. We'll be shopping around the bargain basement for managers with previous PL experience. The closest we came to coming away from the clear and simple formula the board has is when we thought Preki was about to be named our new manager. Edited 16 January 2023 by Dames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 23 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: give us some names? AAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH DHDUDBDIVIWBDGOGKHNAODLGBEJDKCBDHDUXBSHSU 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxer Posted 16 January 2023 Share Posted 16 January 2023 It's such a bizarre recruitment strategy. Any manager with "PL experience" has almost certainly failed at the club he gained that experience in, hence now being available. Did Fergie, Wenger, Mourinho, Potter (at Brighton), De Zebri, etc, etc, etc have PL experience when they had success? Nope. Were/are they decent? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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