Brendan Rodgers

[Ted Maul]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

 

Rodgers is behind Ranieri but he has long surpassed the usual names of O'Neil,  Pearson etc.

Think there's a lot who would have Pearson above Ranieri tbh.

[wardyfox86]

16 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Nope I never said that. Poor play is down to the players. Poor technique, lack of thinking or wrong decisions , its entirely down to them . Perfectly illustrated by Tottenham's defending. Players are human and not remote controlled robots. Real football is nothing like computer games.

Fair enough. Rodgers gets alot of stick on here when things go wrong (often for things like the Ward/Castagne incident) yet the players get the plaudits when things go well.

 

He was tactically spot on yesterday dropping the wingers deeper, exploiting their weaker right hand side and triggering a press in the perfect areas.

 

I'm far from his biggest fan and have wanted him out, but the last 2 games have been great from a tactical sense. Has he changed his ways? Who knows. Time will tell if we revert to Brendan ball 

 

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, BigGibbo said:

 

True, but he was the right man at the right time that ultimately delivered the greatest sporting event in history beyond our wildest dreams so, whilst over a 5 season stretch O'Neil likely outperforms him, that one season is worth more than everything else combined, pretty much.

Yes just one of those life’s quandaries..

“perfect storm” does seem to fit.

And quite cleverly, Ranieri was no man’s fool.

He just vermasselt his 2nd season,parallel to poor  recruitment management team.

Where he wouldn’t have had too much say..

[Guppys Love Child]

3 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I can read what he wrote, and I suspect you misread it. 

I was actually using the fact that a 'like' by them was given to my comment/post.  Not anything written down by them.

 

Edited 12 February 2023 by Guppys Love Child

[LCFCJohn]

Don’t think it’s a simple as just comparing the managers.

 

Rodgers could never have done what Pearson did twice or pulled off what Pearson did in the great escape season. Pearson built the club up from the bottom and Rodgers doesn’t have that ability.

 

Pearson would not have likely got us to the level of finishing 5th or winning the FA Cup. He struggled with the pressure in the great escape season and didn’t have the media backing to let him just do his job. 
 

Both were the right guy at the right time, as was Ranieri. I will personally always value Pearson more as I like a ‘builder’ of a manager. Others don’t value the importance of that and prefer the guy who comes in and benefits from that. 
 

I was too young to remember MON but from what I know, he was probably the closest to being the best of both. 

[LaCiudad]

The level of personal vendettas and hate for Rodgers on here are worrying from a group of people who've never met him.

 

Yeah, ok, have a problem with tactics or something he said in the moment but, let it go and enjoy Leicester City doing well without the caveat of 'but I can't stand the man' - you don't know him.

[fuchsntf]

7 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

I am a nice guy...I wouldn't kick a cat that's cruel...just pray away my friend if it

makes you feel better.  

 

Still Rodgers out regardless of what you or anyone else says ..

No, I just don’t want to cut off my nose to spite my face ( scare the gran-kids).

only thing that counts…he has to always deliver…

He has a season like this again,and again pathetic performances, your my cheerleader..

He creates a magic era…Well..

[Chester Dontlie]

2 hours ago, majaco said:

(...)

People are entitled to their opinions but history will show he has been one of our most successful managers.   I understand people wanting him gone; I don't understand the lack of respect for him given his achievements. 

"The next thing that infuriated fans is how Rodgers has conducted himself in front of the media. His tones regarding overachieving have agitated the Foxes. His disregarding nature with avoiding taking responsibility for his failures have been a reoccurring theme of this season. Often he has thrown the team under the bus but never has accepted the challenge of improving them. His signings in Jannik Vestergaard and Ryan Bertrand have left the side to operate on a shoestring budget."

 

(Above that's only a short quote from this article by one of the fans (not me!)which I believe sums up what most of the BR out brigade including me, feel

https://foxesofleicester.com/2022/02/08/brendan-rodgers-sacking-leicester-city/amp/2/ )

 

The vitriol / hate was, IMO, never because of his perceived lack of achievements. It was first and foremost because of his stubborn, childish, immature habit of shedding the responsibility for the atrocious, eye gouging, depressing, negative way of football Leicester have been playing for close to 2 seasons (the consensus on here seems to be 18 months, for me it feels longer but that's fair enough). One can appreciate the FA cup win as an achievement and at the same time have a strong dislike for the man who was chatting bs to the press about "overachieving" and blaming the "inexperienced" players (when all except 2-3 players like KDH in the starting eleven were PL regulars and/or internationals) for his own shortcomings.

 

When people call the 5th place an achievement, I call their memory short and  flawed. In 2019/20 Leicester were sitting in top 4 for 34 out of 38 matchdays!

Next season was even "better"... Sitting in the top four (mostly top 3) for thirty six (!) weeks and he let it slip in the penultimate game - yet again. We can laugh about that now, but let's call spade a spade: that's a big UNDERachievement two times in a row.

 

I wouldn't mind it if he conducted himself in a responsible, mature way, and admit the responsibility for coming short or making mistake, say once in a blue moon. Or just say nothing to the press. Or call them ostriches, whatever. Instead, his chosen go-to routine when things arent working out is playing the innocent guy and blaming everyone else around.

 

Two good games doesn't make two seasons of atrocious negative football go away, just like that.

 

Ultimately though, his job is based on merit and as long as the results go our way and we continue to play highly entertaining, positive kind of football like against Spurs, nobody, or at least very few people here or in the stands will be shouting "Rodgers out". It's football you're only as good as your last few games. We're an in form team at the moment but the season is still far from over and it's too early to say Rodgers has turned things around. Safety first... That said, his(?) January signings seem to be phenomenal. That's normally a panic buy period of the season. Thanks to this new blood and the players he's up until now neglected, BR seems to be (finally!!!) on the right path to pull us from the deep shit he had put us in... 

 

For me he's still a dislikeable weasel, but for now, I'm very happy that what he's doing FINALLY seems to have clicked, so as long as we keep on winning/drawing and minding that gap between here and the bottom, I'm Rodgers in. Time to look at the bigger picture and judge his over/underachievement fully will as always come at the end of the season.

Edited 12 February 2023 by Chester Dontlie

[Guppys Love Child]

10 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

No, I just don’t want to cut off my nose to spite my face ( scare the gran-kids).

only thing that counts…he has to always deliver…

He has a season like this again,and again pathetic performances, your my cheerleader..

He creates a magic era…Well..

If he does the above then he's finally doing the job he's paid handsomely for.

 

It's only taken him 20 Mths to hopefully get his @rse in gear...I just think at some point he will revert back to Brenden of old again 

 

Pls see the post directly above as well.

Edited 12 February 2023 by Guppys Love Child

[StanSP]

5 minutes ago, Chester Dontlie said:

When people call the 5th place an achievement, I call their memory short and  flawed. In 2019/20 Leicester were sitting in top 4 for 34 out of 38 matchdays!

Next season was even "better"... Sitting in the top four (mostly top 3) for thirty six (!) weeks and he let it slip in the penultimate game - yet again. We can laugh about that now, but let's call spade a spade: that's a big UNDERachievement two times in a row.

It's only an underachievement if you think we should have got top 4 at the start of the season.

 

5th for Leicester, twice in a row, is pretty damn good going. Considering the clubs we're up against and what they spend.

 

Granted, in the circumstances it arose and how we ended up in 5th is bitterly unfortunate. It's not an underachievement for Leicester to finish 5th.

[KFS]

Shame it wasn’t only ever a tactical thing. If he was using poor tactics and changed them, fine. Some of the things he’s said about our club, fans and players when the going got tough will never be fixed. Just not my manager. 

[filthyfox]

He's a tactical genius. 

[fuchsntf]

9 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

Don’t think it’s a simple as just comparing the managers.

 

Rodgers could never have done what Pearson did twice or pulled off what Pearson did in the great escape season. Pearson built the club up from the bottom and Rodgers doesn’t have that ability.

 

Pearson would not have likely got us to the level of finishing 5th or winning the FA Cup. He struggled with the pressure in the great escape season and didn’t have the media backing to let him just do his job. 
 

Both were the right guy at the right time, as was Ranieri. I will personally always value Pearson more as I like a ‘builder’ of a manager. Others don’t value the importance of that and prefer the guy who comes in and benefits from that. 
 

I was too young to remember MON but from what I know, he was probably the closest to being the best of both. 

Errs, Swansea ,at a different level,but Rodgers started his CV on good ground.

But for me it shows also what Pearson did in his 2 tenures,and he created something top clubs were envious of,and should never be underrated ,demeaned or forgotten..MON ( who I also loved) didn’t go half as far, and left us for Celtic, because of the Irish connections…

Leicester was the platform/project Pearson could throw his all into,a quite unique situation,with decent owner backing.And he was damn successfull, an Huth away from missing out.

Also His son has a lot to answer for..

Though to be fair Pearson later ( this last year) said himself he wonders 

“ would he have won the title”

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

It's only an underachievement if you think we should have got top 4 at the start of the season.

 

5th for Leicester, twice in a row, is pretty damn good going. Considering the clubs we're up against and what they spend.

 

Granted, in the circumstances it arose and how we ended up in 5th is bitterly unfortunate. It's not an underachievement for Leicester to finish 5th.

I agree. It's like drawing a game after conceding a stoppage time equaliser but ultimately a good result (even if it didn't feel like it at the time). Had we been in 8th or 9th and finished 5th then it would've been some achievement. It was disappointing to slip out of the top 4 but at the start of the season most would probably have snatched your hand off for a 5th place finish. 

[winteriscoming]

Heard some nonsense on here but to suggest Rodgers has overtook O’Neil is ludicrous. 4 top 10 finishes and winning the league cup twice. Imo O’Neil is no.1.

[Guppys Love Child]

32 minutes ago, KFS said:

Shame it wasn’t only ever a tactical thing. If he was using poor tactics and changed them, fine. Some of the things he’s said about our club, fans and players when the going got tough will never be fixed. Just not my manager. 

Bingo ! and that's my (recent) point exactly..

And the reason I said we could go unbeaten until the end of the season, but. I'd still want shot of him

 

But all I get called is a sad / poor ittle boy (cant actually remember) , or told I'm ,miserable, or shallow.

Edited 12 February 2023 by Guppys Love Child

[Spudulike]

Rodgers must be the Premier Leagues longest serving manager (after Klopp and Guardiola)? 

[filthyfox]

3 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Bkngo ! and that's my (recent) point exactly..

And the reason I said we could go unbeaten until the end of the season, but. I'd still want shot of him

 

But all I get called is a sad / poor ittle boy (cant actually remember) , or told I'm ,miserable, or shallow.

You poor, miserable,  shallow, sad little boy.

Edited 12 February 2023 by filthyfox

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, majaco said:

He gets a lot of hate on this forum despite being a Leicester legend.  

...pretty much a very overused term on here!!!

[LaCiudad]

22 minutes ago, KFS said:

Shame it wasn’t only ever a tactical thing. If he was using poor tactics and changed them, fine. Some of the things he’s said about our club, fans and players when the going got tough will never be fixed. Just not my manager. 

What did he say exactly?

[foxes_rule1978]

Been saying it always, we should stick with him  

[fuchsntf]

16 minutes ago, Chester Dontlie said:

"The next thing that infuriated fans is how Rodgers has conducted himself in front of the media. His tones regarding overachieving have agitated the Foxes. His disregarding nature with avoiding taking responsibility for his failures have been a reoccurring theme of this season. Often he has thrown the team under the bus but never has accepted the challenge of improving them. His signings in Jannik Vestergaard and Ryan Bertrand have left the side to operate on a shoestring budget."

 

(Above that's only a short quote from this article by one of the fans (not me!)which I believe sums up what most of the BR out brigade including me, feel

https://foxesofleicester.com/2022/02/08/brendan-rodgers-sacking-leicester-city/amp/2/ )

 

The vitriol / hate was, IMO, never because of his perceived lack of achievements. It was first and foremost because of his stubborn, childish, immature habit of shedding the responsibility for the atrocious, eye gouging, depressing, negative way of football Leicester have been playing for close to 2 seasons (the consensus on here seems to be 18 months, for me it feels longer but that's fair enough). One can appreciate the FA cup win as an achievement and at the same time have a strong dislike for the man who was chatting bs to the press about "overachieving" and blaming the "inexperienced" players (when all except 2-3 players like KDH in the starting eleven were PL regulars and/or internationals) for his own shortcomings.

 

When people call the 5th place an achievement, I call their memory short and  flawed. In 2019/20 Leicester were sitting in top 4 for 34 out of 38 matchdays!

Next season was even "better"... Sitting in the top four (mostly top 3) for thirty six (!) weeks and he let it slip in the penultimate game - yet again. We can laugh about that now, but let's call spade a spade: that's a big UNDERachievement two times in a row.

 

I wouldn't mind it if he conducted himself in a responsible, mature way, and admit the responsibility for coming short or making mistake, say once in a blue moon. Or just say nothing to the press. Or call them ostriches, whatever. Instead, his chosen go-to routine when things arent working out is playing the innocent guy and blaming everyone else around.

 

Two good games doesn't make two seasons of atrocious negative football go away, just like that.

 

Ultimately though, his job is based on merit and as long as the results go our way and we continue to play highly entertaining, positive kind of football like against Spurs, nobody, or at least very few people here or in the stands will be shouting "Rodgers out". It's football you're only as good as your last few games. We're an in form team at the moment but the season is still far from over and it's too early to say Rodgers has turned things around. Safety first... That said, his(?) January signings seem to be phenomenal. That's normally a panic buy period of the season. Thanks to this new blood and the players he's up until now neglected, BR seems to be (finally!!!) on the right path to pull us from the deep shit he had put us in... 

 

For me he's still a dislikeable weasel, but for now, I'm very happy that what he's doing FINALLY seems to have clicked, so as long as we keep on winning/drawing and minding that gap between here and the bottom, I'm Rodgers in. Time to look at the bigger picture and judge his over/underachievement fully will as always come at the end of the season.

But that whole rhetoric is just not true…

He said enough times, he is responsible, to get the team performing. Despite form or these unusual amount of injuries And he didnt throw anybody under the bus,more than any other manager would,part of a managers team politics, He is not responsible for recruitment so all falsehoods.

He couldn’t get the team to tick & poor performances all fair critic…

but some fans pathetic agendas has taken root,but it’s wrong,wrong & wrong again..

This weasel rhetoric is an immature side from some fans…and shouts out frustrated immaturity.

as far as criticising the club,quietly or loud and clear why shouldn’t he…He wasn’t getting the team investment backing…So another faux passe from some immature  or agenda seeking fans..

Get rid for footballing terms, not toxic waste statements from social media fan basis..

Now he is turning it…Gud on him, he’s denied the naysayers including me..

He turns this fully around …where are then his critics standing…

 

[Grebfromgrebland]

This section is mental. Brendan out thought 2 to class managers in the last 2 games yet he gets no credit for this.

 

When we lose its Brendans fault.

 

When we win it's the players.

 

[Guppys Love Child]

12 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

You poor, miserable,  shallow, sad little boy.

Thanks

[lifted*fox]

I just fail to see how all of the things he supposedly said were so upsetting tbh. I feel like some people read way too deeply into throwaway comments and took far too much of it personally / to heart. 

 

1. Were the fans good enough - not really, imo. We're happy to get behind the team when the going is good but as soon as we hit a wall we go into quiet negativity mode instead of giving all out support a go first. Very little middle-ground with our support. 

 

2. He said we needed new players - was he wrong? Doesn't look like it. 

 

3. Were some of the players not giving their all / not committed enough? We've known certain players have been on the way out for ages and not giving their all, it's hardly a revelation. Was he right to throw them under the bus? I mean, yeah - maybe. 

 

4. Freezing out players - nobody on here has the slightest idea what goes on behind closed doors. Why players are frozen out, etc. It's all speculation. If you know so much and understand the game so much, and think you could handle man management aspects of football players so well - how come you're on here with your pie in the sky musings and not out there earning 10m a year managing a PL football team? 

 

He didn't get it spot on, far from it - but people act like he walked in the centre circle whipped out a home shirt and laid a hot dog egg on it at half time. Like I've said before - the hardcore FT spit-the-dummy-out crew have wondered why everyone else isn't as outraged as them - at games, on here at times, etc. Maybe it's just other people haven't lost the plot over the things that have been said as much. 

 

The most anger I've been able to whip up against Rodgers for some of his comments is a strong 'meh'. And I can get plenty angry about the right things. It just doesn't seem he's really been all that offensive, imo. All the vitriol and 'little goblin' shit people come out with is pretty cringe stuff.