Brendan Rodgers

[An Sionnach]

In a quiet period , Rodgers's few remaining supporters on here always seem to pop up again. The overriding fundamental is he is life expired , he is a bottle of milk, not wine and does not improve with age. Four years is too long , much too long in my opinion. Our players need a new motivator . The main problem is has Top left it too late to stop the inevitable.

[TeamRocket]

4 hours ago, Matt said:

Ambition at its finest here 🤣

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, TeamRocket said:

Ambition at its finest here 🤣

He's talking about being in the moment no? 

The overall ambition of where Leicester City / He want to be has not changed from Top (literally) to bottom, challenge for Europe, titles & cups but this season we find ourselves where we are & any talk about reaching target numbers refer to this season to ensure we are in a position to reboot & start again next season.

 

I'm sure if he said there are 30pts left to play for & we are still looking at getting into Europe there would be a deluded gif making the rounds & not a great i'm back on board with Rodgers because he's still pushing for a European place.

[filbertway]

4 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

He's talking about being in the moment no? 

The overall ambition of where Leicester City / He want to be has not changed from Top (literally) to bottom, challenge for Europe, titles & cups but this season we find ourselves where we are & any talk about reaching target numbers refer to this season to ensure we are in a position to reboot & start again next season.

 

I'm sure if he said there are 30pts left to play for & we are still looking at getting into Europe there would be a deluded gif making the rounds & not a great i'm back on board with Rodgers because he's still pushing for a European place.

Without using the phrase "invisible challenges", coming into your 4th full season with the club, why were you in a position where your were targetting 40 points?

 

Why has the club been regressing on and off the pitch for 2+ years and why haven't you and the DOF been able to prevent this proactively or reactively.

 

I wish people would ask challenging questions

[Corky]

Bullshit that the Soccer Saturday berks will lap up.

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Without using the phrase "invisible challenges", coming into your 4th full season with the club, why were you in a position where your were targetting 40 points?

 

Why has the club been regressing on and off the pitch for 2+ years and why haven't you and the DOF been able to prevent this proactively or reactively.

 

I wish people would ask challenging questions

So do I, instead of reaching for the same old brainless response, recognise that the failure is collective.

[filbertway]

4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So do I, instead of reaching for the same old brainless response, recognise that the failure is collective.

I do like to point the finger at Brendan due to the clear amount of power he wanted, but he's still here so people above him also have to be brought into question.

 

I'd mainly like the second question as it'd absolutely fry his brain performing the PR calculations in his mind

 

[dmayne7]

6 hours ago, Pete52 said:

No, I just don't see what he's said there that anyone assessing things neutrally would say different. 

 

What is it that you have an issue with? If you can point it out to me and can make a case for why you have an issue with it, then I might agree with you. 

Look around at the other posts. I'm not getting annoyed about it because it's the same old self-preservation crap. But he suggests that he actually prefers this sort of challenge to winning trophies. Somebody else described it as subtle spin but it's about as subtle as a sledgehammer.

 

And he doesn't show any fight in there, he's worryingly blasé about it. I think admitting it's not been good enough but this squad has the quality to get out of this, or even that we will get out of it shows more fight. He talks about the 'beauty' of it. There's nothing beautiful about this horror show. Appreciate he's hardly going to tell us how awful a situation we're in but he continues to show a worryingly lack of fight. Serious question; do you genuinely feel confident about Brendan's desire to get stuck in when you hear him speak?

 

And I think anyone interpreting that as him saying 40 points is always our target is clearly wrong and letting their hatred fuel them. Having said that, Brendan's brought that on himself with his constant belittling of the club.

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

I do like to point the finger at Brendan due to the clear amount of power he wanted, but he's still here so people above him also have to be brought into question.

 

I'd mainly like the second question as it'd absolutely fry his brain performing the PR calculations in his mind

I do not listen to him, don’t see the point. Sanity saved.  

[filbertway]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I do not listen to him, don’t see the point. Sanity saved.  

 

Now I don't get involved in many pointless meetings at work with people like him I like to experience his special brand of middle management bullsh*t, it's fine entertainment on a thursday/friday afternoon

 

[Guest Col city fan]

2 hours ago, TeamRocket said:

Ambition at its finest here 🤣

League winners, to this, in 6/7 years 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, filbertway said:

 

Now I don't get involved in many pointless meetings at work with people like him I like to experience his special brand of middle management bullsh*t, it's fine entertainment on a thursday/friday afternoon

 

Reckon you might be onto something. I feel like I have heard his spiel a thousand times before at work.  

[Dan LCFC]

Yeah I've gotta admit I was expecting worse  don't take this in any way as a defence of him.

[The Year Of The Fox]

7 hours ago, Matt said:

Won’t listen to it because I refuse to hear that voice any more than I already have.

 

Why was 40 points always the magical number though?

 

What’s caused us to go from 2x 5th place spots, to an 8th (?) to now fighting relegation?

 

Someone try giving me an answer to that second question that doesn’t relay back to Rodgers, please.

Edited 29 March 2023 by The Year Of The Fox

[The_77]

2 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Won’t listen to it because I refuse to hear that voice any more than I already have.

 

Why was 40 points always the magical number though?

 

What’s caused us to go from 2x 5th place spots, to an 8th (?) to now fighting relegation?

 

All answers to that second question relay back to Rodgers 

He’s talking about 40 points as the magic number for *any* club to stay up in the league, not as some lofty goal for us. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

Just now, The_77 said:

He’s talking about 40 points as the magic number for *any* club to stay up in the league, not as some lofty goal for us. 

Ok. But why are we talking about staying up? What’s led us to this?

 

Someone answer that question without an answer that leads to our elite manager. 

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Ok. But why are we talking about staying up? What’s led us to this?

 

Someone answer that question without an answer that leads to our elite manager. 

Collective mismanagement. You are most welcome.

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Collective mismanagement. You are most welcome.

Nicely swerved 👏🏼 

 

 

The other guilty parties in hindsight are

 

Presumably Rudkin for the length and cost of the players contracts.

 

Top, for not pulling the trigger at any point from October ‘21 to present day.

 

 

 

Edited 29 March 2023 by The Year Of The Fox

[The_77]

3 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

Ok. But why are we talking about staying up? What’s led us to this?

 

Someone answer that question without an answer that leads to our elite manager. 

I’m not arguing that he’s not responsible. Just pointing out that you were misinterpreting the comments. 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, The Year Of The Fox said:

Nicely swerved 👏🏼 

……saved and straight back into court.  

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 minute ago, The_77 said:

I’m not arguing that he’s not responsible. Just pointing out that you were misinterpreting the comments. 

Yeah I know, it was an open question to others really.

[BKLFox]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Without using the phrase "invisible challenges", coming into your 4th full season with the club, why were you in a position where your were targetting 40 points?

 

Why has the club been regressing on and off the pitch for 2+ years and why haven't you and the DOF been able to prevent this proactively or reactively.

 

I wish people would ask challenging questions

I wish people would listen to the answers or at least try & figure a lot of the reasons out for themselves because its not really hard.

Looking at the questions you offer & if you're the reporter asking him, now what are you wanting him to reply, in the current climate you want him to say well its because me & the DOF are shite its all on us or again as the reporter you're wanting him to slate the club to get a nice back page smear going, i didn't think people wanted him to knock the club, so its just the i'm shit right, hardly a challenging insightful question.

 

The reality is its a combination of many things, covid seasons & playing non stop for 2 seasons, injuries, our lack of budget & the control to adhere to FFP but squeezing every last drop we did have to achieve those 5th finishes & cup, the overall standard of squad, the squad requiring a refresh it's self & manager not getting the best out of the group.
A question would be if everything stays the same but a new manager comes in would everyone be happy with this squad as it is or does everyone agree a refresh is required?

Would we be in this position if we got a refresh of 5-6 players in the summer as he suggested we needed?

Whilst people look at Brighton, Fulham, Brentford this season do we honestly see these 3 clubs now being part of the top half of the league every season? Its a cycle, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Villa for a few seasons until the need to over spend & your best players being poached catches up with you.
These clubs can't afford to sit on players & even the rich clubs do regular overhauls to keep their squads filled with the best around, SAF every 2-3yrs would shake that Man U team up to keep it fresh & with the latest 'it' players of the time but he had the financial resource & the fact it was Man U

 

For me change / don't change the manager, pay the manager 10m pay the manager 2m but our current squad & revenue streams still need an overhaul to continually push for our goals next season & beyond

[The Year Of The Fox]

13 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I wish people would listen to the answers or at least try & figure a lot of the reasons out for themselves because its not really hard.

Looking at the questions you offer & if you're the reporter asking him, now what are you wanting him to reply, in the current climate you want him to say well its because me & the DOF are shite its all on us or again as the reporter you're wanting him to slate the club to get a nice back page smear going, i didn't think people wanted him to knock the club, so its just the i'm shit right, hardly a challenging insightful question.

 

The reality is its a combination of many things, covid seasons & playing non stop for 2 seasons, injuries, our lack of budget & the control to adhere to FFP but squeezing every last drop we did have to achieve those 5th finishes & cup, the overall standard of squad, the squad requiring a refresh it's self & manager not getting the best out of the group.
A question would be if everything stays the same but a new manager comes in would everyone be happy with this squad as it is or does everyone agree a refresh is required?

Would we be in this position if we got a refresh of 5-6 players in the summer as he suggested we needed?

Whilst people look at Brighton, Fulham, Brentford this season do we honestly see these 3 clubs now being part of the top half of the league every season? Its a cycle, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Villa for a few seasons until the need to over spend & your best players being poached catches up with you.
These clubs can't afford to sit on players & even the rich clubs do regular overhauls to keep their squads filled with the best around, SAF every 2-3yrs would shake that Man U team up to keep it fresh & with the latest 'it' players of the time but he had the financial resource & the fact it was Man U

 

For me change / don't change the manager, pay the manager 10m pay the manager 2m but our current squad & revenue streams still need an overhaul to continually push for our goals next season & beyond

Injuries? That’s on Rodgers. You can’t hide behind the Covid fixture congestion or European football taking its toll any more. Most people saw through that anyway, when you think that we used to play 46 championship games a season, plus domestic cups, and remain relatively injury free, under Rennie. Check out Rodgers’ injury record at Liverpool if you still believe he’s not part of our injury problem. 

 

Lack of budget? Also on Rodgers. He’s the one who brought in Congerton. They’re the ones who’ve bought clapped out Volvo’s rather than a SEAT Leon in need of a bit of tarting up. Which then funds our next seasons transfer kitty.

Edited 29 March 2023 by The Year Of The Fox

[filbertway]

Just now, BKLFox said:

I wish people would listen to the answers or at least try & figure a lot of the reasons out for themselves because its not really hard.

Looking at the questions you offer & if you're the reporter asking him, now what are you wanting him to reply, in the current climate you want him to say well its because me & the DOF are shite its all on us or again as the reporter you're wanting him to slate the club to get a nice back page smear going, i didn't think people wanted him to knock the club, so its just the i'm shit right, hardly a challenging insightful question.

 

The reality is its a combination of many things, covid seasons & playing non stop for 2 seasons, injuries, our lack of budget & the control to adhere to FFP but squeezing every last drop we did have to achieve those 5th finishes & cup, the overall standard of squad, the squad requiring a refresh it's self & manager not getting the best out of the group.
A question would be if everything stays the same but a new manager comes in would everyone be happy with this squad as it is or does everyone agree a refresh is required?

Would we be in this position if we got a refresh of 5-6 players in the summer as he suggested we needed?

Whilst people look at Brighton, Fulham, Brentford this season do we honestly see these 3 clubs now being part of the top half of the league every season? Its a cycle, Everton, West Ham, Leicester, Villa for a few seasons until the need to over spend & your best players being poached catches up with you.
These clubs can't afford to sit on players & even the rich clubs do regular overhauls to keep their squads filled with the best around, SAF every 2-3yrs would shake that Man U team up to keep it fresh & with the latest 'it' players of the time but he had the financial resource & the fact it was Man U

 

For me change / don't change the manager, pay the manager 10m pay the manager 2m but our current squad & revenue streams still need an overhaul to continually push for our goals next season & beyond

 

I'd like to see him and the DOF to take ownership of all of those contributing factors and then I'd like to ask why they both deserve to still be in employment.

 

We never went backwards once under Pearson, so "it's just the way it works" isn't good enough for me. They have hardly believable resources to work with. With intelligent forward planning, high quality staff/facilities there should be enough there to see a general positive trend.

 

Most of us know the reasons and it's been like watching a car crash happen in slow motion. I'd just like it to be out there, so I don't have to deal with uninformed people from inside and outside the club trotting out the same old lines. This is one of the biggest summers in the clubs history coming up. Based on everything I've seen in the past 3 years. I want Rodgers absolutely nowhere near it. 

[Dahnsouff]

Won’t quote you @BKLFox  and I broadly agree, but I do feel we could reasonably expect him to do better with this squad, not to the point of 5th/6th mind, that’s not realistic as we cannot afford to keep up that pace for the long term, yet good enough to not be in danger is not unreasonable I think. Although it is also impossible to not think we are stale and need a refresh of some form.

Edited 29 March 2023 by Dahnsouff