Brendan Rodgers

[splinterdream]

2 minutes ago, deep blue said:

People who pay to watch games, either through the turnstile or Sky etc, are certainly entitled to voice their disapproval if they feel they haven't been entertained.

 

Not imo, I'd like a couple of season tickets, those sitting there in silence through the game with their flask of coffee to then boo at half time or at the end disgust me, I wish they'd give up their seats to those who want to support the team and manager by making as much noise as possible 

[foxes_rule1978]

For the first time, I’m now concerned with the direction Rodgers is taking us. Things aren’t progressing, it is the same issues every game whether we are playing weaker opposition or stronger. We leave too much space, no one is close to marker a player for a set piece. Getting in between our none existent midfield and defence is far too easy as well. We have quality players and they should be doing better than that. Lucky to not lose to both Leeds and Brentford too 

Edited 20 November 2021 by foxes_rule1978

[Corky]

3 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Brendan Rodgers blasts Leicester fans for booing his side after a resounding 3-0 home defeat by Chelsea as he claims supporters' negativity can cause 'anxiety'

so can watching them 

 

What was the excuse for the nine home defeats last year?

[st albans fox]

11 minutes ago, escape2victory said:

I think the summer transfer window was a disaster. After the disappointment of missing out on the top 4 for the 2nd consecutive season, what this squad needed was 1 or 2 players who could come into and improve the starting 11 immediately, just to give us that freshness and push us not, not squad fillers (Bertrand,Vestergaard, Lookman) or players with potential (Daka, Soumare)

How much do you think it costs to buy starters who improve a team that just finished 5th twice ??

 

we don’t pay big enough wages to get top quality in who may have to sit on the bench. We will always have a first eleven and then a group, of players who aren’t quite as good as those starters and another group who are obviously worse than the starters in their preferred positions. 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Chester Dontlie said:

"We 've over-achieved to be around the top four and challenging some of these teams that are way above us." 

What the ****???

Did we overachieve by placing 5th in the Prem in TWO consecutive seasons? 
Did we overachieve by winning 1-0 at Wembley in the cup final against a team who has just beaten you 0-3 at KP?

With Ranners, did we overachieve by winning a title with a 10 point margin over a 2nd placed team?
Finally did Vichai overachieve by fulfilling his goal of having Leicester in TOP 5 within 3 years of his time here?
 

He couldn't be more wrong... Rogers you absolute muppet you haven't overachieved, but you're (massively) underachieving now.

 

What's more, with statements like that he loses the support of fans AND even more importantly, the players! 
The guy is in complete denial.

He's feeding us BS, telling it's mince pies 

 

 

 

if you think we haven’t over achieved by finishing top six twice with our squad then you’re deluded 

 

just as we over achieved by winning the league with that 15/16 team.

 

ambition and targets are essential at pro level but unless you have a handle on what’s acceptable and unacceptable you’ll never cope with the peaks and troughs which are inevitable unless you can chuck many hundreds of millions at the squad 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Corky said:

What was the excuse for the nine home defeats last year?

We weren’t present to moan!  He can have it both ways! 

Edited 20 November 2021 by st albans fox

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

How much do you think it costs to buy starters who improve a team that just finished 5th twice ??

 

we don’t pay big enough wages to get top quality in who may have to sit on the bench. We will always have a first eleven and then a group, of players who aren’t quite as good as those starters and another group who are obviously worse than the starters in their preferred positions. 

 

 

 

if you think we haven’t over achieved by finishing top six twice with our squad then you’re deluded 

 

just as we over achieved by winning the league with that 15/16 team.

 

ambition and targets are essential at pro level but unless you have a handle on what’s acceptable and unacceptable you’ll never cope with the peaks and troughs which are inevitable unless you can chuck many hundreds of millions at the squad 

Most are pointing out the basic errors which are being made pretty much every game. Sure we could have played great and still lost today Chelsea are that good, the issue is since February we haven’t even managed basic stuff. Too easy to play against and it isn’t a good watch. For how we laugh at Maguire and Man U we are no better. The basics are lost 

Edited 20 November 2021 by foxes_rule1978

[Corky]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

We weren’t present to moan!  He can have it both ways! 

I often criticise the crowd but today I couldn't. Even thousands streaming out with 20 to go. They got nothing today.

 

People booed at half-time when the game was done- nothing to do with anxiety. Hardly like we turned on them during the warm-up.

[st albans fox]

Just now, Corky said:

I often criticise the crowd but today I couldn't. Even thousands streaming out with 20 to go. They got nothing today.

 

People booed at half-time when the game was done- nothing to do with anxiety. Hardly like we turned on them during the warm-up.

I thought the half time boos were mainly for the ref tbh. 

[TheFiveTime]

I would never sack rodgers in a billion years but if he were to go to united I would say "fair play mate" and happily look to whats next

[turkish14]

All over red cafe (page 15-16) “insiders” saying ole gone, paid severance of 7.5 million. And they now want Rodgers 😂

[erlee]

[FoxinNotts]

Best manager we’ve ever had. He’s earned the right to have a season where we finish mid table. 

[iancognito]

The headline's a bit clickbaity to be honest, it was hardly a "blast".

But he's contradicting himself if he thinks we're overachieving. These owners didn't bring him in to just finish in the top half, Puel was sacked when we were mid table and hadn't won for 5 games. Their ambition is European football and if possible top 4 and he said as much when he took over and several times since about the ambitions of the club.

 

Stadium expansion, new training complex, enhanced player wages/bonueses etc are all financed by European competition and sponsorship deals. If we're out of the Europa and struggling in the league, he'll have done no better than Claude Puel for over double his wages. As I said in another thread, he can discuss with Claudio next week all about how secure your job is after winning a trophy.

I don't want him gone, but I do want him to lose the arrogant opinion that his tactics and management style are beyond reproach.

[Chester Dontlie]

13 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

How much do you think it costs to buy starters who improve a team that just finished 5th twice ??

 

we don’t pay big enough wages to get top quality in who may have to sit on the bench. We will always have a first eleven and then a group, of players who aren’t quite as good as those starters and another group who are obviously worse than the starters in their preferred positions. 

 

 

 

if you think we haven’t over achieved by finishing top six twice with our squad then you’re deluded 

 

just as we over achieved by winning the league with that 15/16 team.

 

ambition and targets are essential at pro level but unless you have a handle on what’s acceptable and unacceptable you’ll never cope with the peaks and troughs which are inevitable unless you can chuck many hundreds of millions at the squad 

Mate even if you actually think like that and agree with what he said (I don't), you don't go around say and say shit like this for everyone to hear.

 

Would you seriously want your boss to say you've been overachieving when everyone around says you're among the top employees at your workplace? Honestly, let that question sink in. Would you be all right with a statement like that, knowing how much effort it cost you to be up there?

What he says must be near the top of the list in 'How to make enemies and alienate your players' handbook.

This guy has just shat all over his own players ffs.

 

And with all his comments today it looks like he doesn't have a clue what to do about the situation he's in.

Edited 20 November 2021 by Chester Dontlie

[foxes_rule1978]

I will feel sad to see Rodgers go man United, but maybe he has just run his course here… some managers find it hard to stay around and build. Not saying he isn’t a good manager just maybe long term he isn’t right. 

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, foxes_rule1978 said:

I will feel sad to see Rodgers go man United, but maybe he has just run his course here… some managers find it hard to stay around and build. Not saying he isn’t a good manager just maybe long term he isn’t right. 

Can't see him controlling the likes of Pogba and Ronaldo I think they will go for Zidane 

[dannythefox]

58 minutes ago, Beechey said:

I don’t think he’ll be here in a few months time. If he is, fair play because it’ll likely mean he’s turned it around, but I can’t see it.

Apparently he wants to play a back 4, but we constantly play back 5s. What happened to that team that would score 4 or 5 per game? We have the players for a back 4, so why not do it? Why change systems constantly? No wonder our players look lost, we don’t have a set system, formation, or really style of play anymore.

 

It’s really disappointing.

We’ve never score 4 or 5 per game are you getting us mixed up with Man City ?

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Can't see him controlling the likes of Pogba and Ronaldo I think they will go for Zidane 

Pogba, Ronaldo and Fernandes all difficult. Let’s face it Fergie would have had Pogba out a while back it is why they sold him  

[iancognito]

24 minutes ago, escape2victory said:

I think the summer transfer window was a disaster. After the disappointment of missing out on the top 4 for the 2nd consecutive season, what this squad needed was 1 or 2 players who could come into and improve the starting 11 immediately, just to give us that freshness and push us not, not squad fillers (Bertrand,Vestergaard, Lookman) or players with potential (Daka, Soumare)

Daka and Soumare weren't bought for potential. Soumare has played 2/3 of the games. Daka was bought as a man who had scored goals at a high level and could give Vardy a rest. He's been way under-used in a lot of people's opinion. Those two were there as the players to give the likes of Vardy, Tielemans and Ndidi a rest. Bertrand replaced Fuchs, Lookman was a replacement for Ghezzal after he left.

 

Vestergaard was the only one that was a panic buy as Evans was still unfit and fofana crocked.

The window isn't really the issue. We've now got a bigger pool of players but aren't playing as well as we were before they joined. It just doesn't make sense.

[Beechey]

14 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

We’ve never score 4 or 5 per game are you getting us mixed up with Man City ?

Per game was an exaggeration, but I’m getting at our switch to a rigid, defensive system. We have scored 4 or more goals against:

 

Spartak 

Manchester United

Sheffield United

Stoke City

Leeds United

Braga 

West Ham United

Aston Villa

Southampton

Newcastle

Luton Town

Huddersfield

 

Loads of 3-0 wins in there as well, unfortunately they are getting less common. We’re not as attacking as we once were. We frequently would be free-scoring. Not so much anymore. Bring back the back 4.

Edited 20 November 2021 by Beechey

[Tom12345]

5 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

I get the feeling that things have been too comfortable and that Rodgers has been too accepting of nearly or not good enough. Tuchel has a different mentality which is why he is an elite coach with Rodgers being a good one. 

Tuchel is on a totally different level to Rodgers. Tuchel demands and sets high standards. Playing poorly is not good enough for him.

 

For Rodgers, I desperately want him to do well and still want to see him being given a chance by the club and us as fans. But I am getting tired not just of his excuses but the mentality he is instilling into the players. Something must surely not be right. We have the best squad we have ever had, despite the injuries, but yet his constant excuse that we are over achieving is not what an elite coach would say. He said that again today and blamed the fans? We are not achieving what we should be achieving, not even result wise but performance wise, is exactly because we fear and we play like we are a team that does not believe in ourselves because we have only just been “overachieving” and because we are actually shit?

 

No, he should be telling his team we can do this because we are good and because we can. Be harsh on yourself when we lose because we believe in ourselves. “Yes we can”. “We don’t fear.” But Rodgers does the opposite and this is exactly the problem and why his teams always seem to bottle. We care too much about the opposition and don’t play with any style of play ourselves now.

 

What is most telling, as I said a long while back, was when we played West Brom last season or season before last (?), and we were 3-0 up at half time after having (I thought) played brilliant attacking football and could have had many more goals. We came out at half time playing negative crap and hardly had another chance at goal and he said afterwards he was NOT happy with the first half so he made a few changes at half time and he was much happier with the second half performance. I repeat, we created loads of chances first half and we played boring negative football in the second half.  THAT is why we are where we are today. The constant criticisms Rodgers must have been making towards his players in terms of taking risks, having a go and be fearless, and his constant demand for his players to play safe must be rubbing off the players massively now. It is not just tactics and player selection, but this mentality of negativeness must be affecting the confidence of players. He wants everything to be perfect but that is exactly his downfall.  As a parent, it is the same with teaching kids. The more you tell them to not do this, not do that, becareful of this, becareful if that etc, the more negative and lacking in self confidence they become. That is exactly what is happening with our team.

 

Puel was on to something. He did the hardwork in transitioning us from a one dimensional counter attacking team into something more. Some fans were too impatient. Rodgers came in and carried on with it and reaped the benefit of Puel’s hardwork. At first it was ok, as players were still a confident arrogant bunch thinking that they were better than Puel especially after winning the PL not long before that. Some realism was a good thing for them and they started to flourish. But now after 3 years of negativity, the pendulum has swung massively the other way and the negative mindset has dominated and hesitation is everywhere on the pitch. In football, if you hesitate, the chance is gone, the confidence is gone, the moment is gone. I can talk a lot more about tactics, but this is the primary reason I believe in our downfall and it has been going on for a long while now.  I started to see this and have been saying this for a long while.

 

I still want Rodgers to stay and turn this around as I can only hope he is learning that now. On balance, I am not sure changing manager is good now. So let’s get behind the team and give til end of season to Rodgers to fix this. This is a confidence issue so we can only get behind the team.

Edited 20 November 2021 by Tom12345

[lcfcbluearmy]

12 minutes ago, Chester Dontlie said:

Mate even if you actually think like that and agree with what he said (I don't), you don't go around say and say shit like this for everyone to hear.

 

Would you seriously want your boss to say you've been overachieving when everyone around says you're among the top employees at your workplace? Honestly, let that question sink in. Would you be all right with a statement like that, knowing how much effort it cost you to be up there?

What he says must be near the top of the list in 'How to make enemies and alienate your players' handbook.

This guy has just shat all over his own players ffs.

 

And with all his comments today it looks like he doesn't have a clue what to do about the situation he's in.

I am planning devil's advocate here but what if he made the comment about overachieving because he feels like some of the players have got too big for their boots and need reminding that they aren't as good as they think they are and need to try harder?

[DoveValleyFox]

If BR gets interviewed for the manu job he will be asked what has happened with our defence this season.

 

He might reply that a quality full back and centre back are still out with long-term injuries (JJ and WF); that one centre back is still carrying a serious foot injury (JE); that another is seriously lacking confidence after a disastrous Euro championship (CS); that another full back is just regaining his composure after literally having his face smashed in (TC) with another finally improving after a potentially career ending knee injury (RP). He might also add that he should take some credit for a run of good form from a squad filling centre back (DA). 

 

The interview might never happen but if it did, they may consider that point of view.

[sly1]

Let him go enough is enough on your way m8

[coolhandfox]

1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

Think that's unfair on lookman imo, he looks like he could be a really good player, I might be wrong.

That good, his been bomb out by Everton and Leipzig.

 

He a decent player for a mid table club, nothing wrong with that.