ajthefox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 I don't think the comments are quite as bad as some are making out but make no bones about it, he is certainly deflecting. I think he is quite fortunate that the media either aren't watching enough of us or are reluctant to criticism him for some reason. MOTD didn't say a word about how bad we were. Not one. Why? I know Chelsea being great is the bigger story but did they even watch the game? Its frustrating that it doesn't seem to have been picked up how consistently poor we have been. I *almost* wish the offside goals would've counted so that a bit more pressure would be on Brendan to take the blame. Our form is terrible and it is fooking embarassing how we seem to be suffering from the same shit week in, week out. The zonal marking simply doesn't work and it is painful to watch us defend set pieces. I think what initially may have been a lack of personnel and trying to make do with difficult circumstances has now, unfortunately, become a chronic problem. Clearly we are lacking in confidence. We simply don't look like a team to me, its clear in the body language and the communication between the players that they are all scared. As has often been the case, the part of the game where we looked our best was before their third when we were still in it but it was getting late and there wasn't really anything to lose. I don't really want Brendan to go and I don't see any way that he does (at least until the summer) unless we find ourselves hovering over the drop. But I have very little faith in his ability to turn this around now. I suspect we will do well enough in the league and one of the cups (once Wes and JJ are back) that the season will be considered as a down season. After that, who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 55 minutes ago, Area88 said: BR achieved an FA Cup win and two top 5 finishes. (Without Chelsea or Man City's transfer budgets). I am struggling to see how BR is a mini and Klopp is a Ferrari. Did you mean mini corvette? Probably because Brendan was the first Liverpool manager not to win a serious trophy in his first three years whereas Klopp, well...... the rest is history. Harsh but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox1norfolk Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 59 minutes ago, Area88 said: BR achieved an FA Cup win and two top 5 finishes. (Without Chelsea or Man City's transfer budgets). I am struggling to see how BR is a mini and Klopp is a Ferrari. Did you mean mini corvette? The difference is Klopp has one or two bad results, but Mr Rodgers has had far too many this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxtonfox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 (edited) There's no doubt we are in a slump. The next two games are absolutely key to the season now to stop this turning into a repeat of Ranieri Season 2 and the Puel slide ending with the 1-4 defeat to Palace. We need to beat Legia to hold any realistic chance of qualifying in the Europa and then beat Watford to halt the slide into the relegation zone. Legia are poor in Poland this season and are already 2-0 down tonight at half-time so despite our current form we should have enough to beat them at home despite our recent rubbish. It's about time Rodgers receives some overdue criticism and proper focus from the national press for our performances this season. I think there is no way United will go for Rodgers. Their fans don't like the Liverpool connection and his stock has been on the slide in recent weeks. There are better options for United abroad. They'll make do with Carrick for a few weeks and then go for the bigger names to get them top 4. I don't think they were anticipating to get rid of Ole so soon but after yesterday they were forced to. Edited 21 November 2021 by oxtonfox spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Brendan has done a good job here and will always be well regarded after leading us to securing our first ever FA Cup. Also our 2 5th placed finishes have been excellent albeit tainted by the end of season collapse on both occasions, however my concern is twofold - 1) I feel Rodgers and his methods have hit a ceiling, performances and results are on a downward spiral 2) I am far from convinced Rodgers really wants to be here anymore, this was always a stepping stone for him and I can’t help but think timing wise, the summer was the time he wanted to move on to something bigger and better. The concern I have now is that we are in a precarious position, is he committed? Do the players believe in him? Top has a massive decision do we stick and run the risk of things becoming even more stale and undoing the good work of the last few years, or do we see this as a time to twist and freshen things up again. We have a talented squad and world class training facilities but the players look frustrated and the motivation and intensity is not there, that comes from the Manager and his back room team, I fear he has lost the respect of the dressing room. Something has to change as currently we are sleepwalking into trouble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyLeon Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Listen to this by Gary Neville..... Replace the name 'Ole' with 'Rodgers'. 8:31 - 9:50 ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 4 hours ago, turlo said: Liverpool's issues last season were mainly down to the injury problems they suffered and they've recovered this season now most of their players are back. Leicester had similar injury problems last season and Rodgers managed this better than Klopp but things have gone south this season even with an improved squad. Evans is back now but we're still dog shite. So Liverpools issues were excusable down to injuries even though they have the messiah I'm Klopp and a massively better squad. Yet our injuries,far worse and more significant considering squad and size of club aren't a factor, ffs do I need to trot out the list of players missing over the period ? Saying we're still dog shite even though Evans is back and not making allowances for BR is incredulous. I'm not saying Brendan is faultless or beyond reproach I just think there should be an element of reason and a more balanced evaluation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcbluearmy Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 3 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said: So Liverpools issues were excusable down to injuries even though they have the messiah I'm Klopp and a massively better squad. Yet our injuries,far worse and more significant considering squad and size of club aren't a factor, ffs do I need to trot out the list of players missing over the period ? Saying we're still dog shite even though Evans is back and not making allowances for BR is incredulous. I'm not saying Brendan is faultless or beyond reproach I just think there should be an element of reason and a more balanced evaluation. This sums up my oppinion yes we haven’t been good but we have had a number of long term injuries that coincide with our dip in form. Has Rodgers got things wrong? Yes. Does he need to improve? Yes. But I believe as the players start coming back from injury we will improve. having said this their does seem to be a problem in mentality with the players at the moment but this could just be a lack of belief from the poor form get a couple of good wins in and I’m sure we will be back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGibbo Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 I see Brendan "Hyacinth Bucket" Rogèr has let the mask slip again. I've been saying for a couple of years he's a top manager up to a point, but he's obsessed with money and stature and never believed we could get top 4 despite us having comparable first 11s and the multiple omnishambles that were going on at Manu, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea at the time. If he didn't expect us to capitalise and finish in those spots why would the players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 1 minute ago, lcfcbluearmy said: This sums up my oppinion yes we haven’t been good but we have had a number of long term injuries that coincide with our dip in form. Has Rodgers got things wrong? Yes. Does he need to improve? Yes. But I believe as the players start coming back from injury we will improve. having said this their does seem to be a problem in mentality with the players at the moment but this could just be a lack of belief from the poor form get a couple of good wins in and I’m sure we will be back. Thank you and touche. Yesterday was disappointing and a very good Chelsea side schooled us. Not many will say we were missing Youri, Ricardo, JJ, little Wes and returnees Harvey and Wilf aren't up to speed yet. Half a team just there but purely just the loss of Youri is massive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 Brendan will be up there like a shot. Why not go Utd and fail and then come back to a mid table side, rather then get sacked in a few weeks and end up Scraping the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unabomber Posted 21 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 21 November 2021 Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 4 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? Nope, Pearson has gone off. Needs the whole band together too not just him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 4 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? OMG, is that really a serious question? The answer is an anagram of 'on'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? No but I would love Martin O'Neill back. It would probably not work but it sure would make me excited Edited 21 November 2021 by Vindaloo FOX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Away Move Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 5 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? I doubt anyone who is serious about football would. This is a guy who played Vardy on the wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 7 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? Amusing to note that some of those rightly pillorying Brendan over zonal defending are the same ones that venerate Pearson. In answer to your question, as unbelievable as it is, I'm convinced that there are - fortunately, the club would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasFox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 9 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said: No but I would love Martin O'Neill back. It would probably not work but it sure would make me excited I think Man Utd should go for O'Neill and Keane. Genuinely think that's the kind of thing they need right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 1 hour ago, l444ry said: Probably because Brendan was the first Liverpool manager not to win a serious trophy in his first three years whereas Klopp, well...... the rest is history. Harsh but true. Thought Hodgson won bugger all too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 22 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? Yes, you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Izzy Posted 21 November 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 21 November 2021 1 hour ago, Claudio Fannieri said: 2) I am far from convinced Rodgers really wants to be here anymore, This seems to be a popular opinion, so I'm going to offer a different one. I think he does want to be here. I think he really likes being Leicester manager. I think he likes working with Top, Susan and Rudkin and I think he genuinely loves the players he works with. I think he's frustrated and his pride is hurt, but I genuinely think he wants to turn it around. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: Yes, you. you got me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 18 minutes ago, An Away Move said: I doubt anyone who is serious about football would. This is a guy who played Vardy on the wing. Yeah also a guy who is one of our best ever managers. Also the guy who ****ing signed vardy! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe's Fox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 25 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Serious question would anyone take Pearson over Brendan now? I'd take Nige over anyone. He's a great figure. A prince amongst men. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 21 November 2021 Share Posted 21 November 2021 37 minutes ago, BigGibbo said: I see Brendan "Hyacinth Bucket" Rogèr has let the mask slip again. I've been saying for a couple of years he's a top manager up to a point, but he's obsessed with money and stature and never believed we could get top 4 despite us having comparable first 11s and the multiple omnishambles that were going on at Manu, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea at the time. If he didn't expect us to capitalise and finish in those spots why would the players? So you don’t believe ’hand on heart’ that we haven’t over achieved then, all things considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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