CosbehFox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Scoring 4+ in PL games Rodgers 13 times (In less the 3 seasons) All other LCFC PL managers combined 13 (in 12 and a bit seasons) I have said repeatedly I don't think you can level the negativity line at him and found a bit odd that was a criticism on Thursday night. We score for fun - fifth highest scorers in the league. Was a sensible criticism when we were playing the suffocating 5 at the back but it appears to be settled that this formation at least gets the best out of us going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Renard Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 I'm not a Rodgers out or Rodgers in fan, I would rather sit on the fence and get splinters! I just can't see an obvious replacement for him, yes his ego a bit too much sometimes and he is too cringy for my liking with his management speak. He has the best win ratio of our prem managers, but I still don't warm to him like other previous managers, I don't care as much as I should do about keeping him. I think the problem is that we know Rodgers and his ego are way too big for little ole leicester, this is the reason why fans just don't warm to him as they should. A manager who's won the FA cup and has two top 5 finishes and still a lot of fans on this forum want his head......he should already be legendary status with his record! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Le Renard said: I'm not a Rodgers out or Rodgers in fan, I would rather sit on the fence and get splinters! I just can't see an obvious replacement for him, yes his ego a bit too much sometimes and he is too cringy for my liking with his management speak. He has the best win ratio of our prem managers, but I still don't warm to him like other previous managers, I don't care as much as I should do about keeping him. I think the problem is that we know Rodgers and his ego are way too big for little ole leicester, this is the reason why fans just don't warm to him as they should. A manager who's won the FA cup and has two top 5 finishes and still a lot of fans on this forum want his head......he should already be legendary status with his record! I don't know I quite like him he is just frustrating and makes some strange calls quite a lot but then the flip side is he is a really good manager probably one of the best we've had .. the one downside is he probably would leave given a bigger job offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 I’m frustrated about some of his decisions and comments but I think the ego thing gets overstated on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 hours ago, Matt said: Did make me laugh when he said his interview after todays game he came into the job with the aim of playing attacking football Christ! Give him time to settle in won't ya? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: I’m frustrated about some of his decisions and comments but I think the ego thing gets overstated on here Totally agree. I think sometimes people read all sorts into the most mundane comments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 I do feel like we made a mistake paying him as much as we do when there was interest in him before. It makes it harder to sack him and probably adds more expectation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpenden Fox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 hours ago, Matt said: Did make me laugh when he said his interview after todays game he came into the job with the aim of playing attacking football We’ve scored 4 goals at home in 3 recent home games. I think your expectation levels are seriously faulty. I really don’t know what will make you happy supporting Leicester City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsintskaro Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 This win was not unpredictable, its next few games that will change a lot things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy82 Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Hopefully he can get us going now🤞 Great result today and I’m sure everyone will calm down if we get a win on Thursday, Really want it to work out for him but have my doubts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Scoring 4+ in PL games Rodgers 13 times (In less the 3 seasons) All other LCFC PL managers combined 13 (in 12 and a bit seasons) Wow, I knew the stat must be pretty good but that just shows how good he can get us going forward. I still have grave concerns about his long term future but cannot deny he's a defensive manager... we cannot defend 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Wow, I knew the stat must be pretty good but that just shows how good he can get us going forward. I still have grave concerns about his long term future but cannot deny he's a defensive manager... we cannot defend 😂 What would be your first choice back 4, every one fit? Edited 12 December 2021 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Just now, coolhandfox said: What would be your first choice back 4? When everyone's fit? Hmmmm Evans Fofana for sure But at full back I can't tell if I'd rather Thomas and Justin or Justin and Ricardo. Castagne hasn't impressed me this season at all. If Ricardo keeps fit for more than a few weeks then I think Justin would probably take Thomas's spot but he's been very very good since we went back to a back 4 and Barnes back in in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Dumping a winger and playing four central midfielders helped . We cannot afford too many forwards who don't defend. Barnes and Daka or Vardy are the most we can go with. We don't need to win 4-0 , but we need to get those 1-0 wins over the line, just like Spurs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: When everyone's fit? Hmmmm Evans Fofana for sure But at full back I can't tell if I'd rather Thomas and Justin or Justin and Ricardo. Castagne hasn't impressed me this season at all. If Ricardo keeps fit for more than a few weeks then I think Justin would probably take Thomas's spot but he's been very very good since we went back to a back 4 and Barnes back in in front of him. For me it would be Justin, Fofana, Evans and Riccardo, we have managed to get only Evans on the pitch. Who more that likely hasn't been fit. We have been crap at the back, but I think must side would struggle with that. Take TAA, Robertson and VD out of Liverpool team they would struggle. I think Timmy injury at the Euros has cause him a lot of issues mental, seems a little on edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: For me it would be Justin, Fofana, Evans and Riccardo, we have managed to get only Evans on the pitch. Who more that likely hasn't been fit. We have been crap at the back, but I think must side would struggle with that. Take TAA, Robertson and VD out of Liverpool team they would struggle. I think Timmy injury at the Euros has cause him a lot of issues mental, seems a little on edge. Don't forget, a lot of our defensive issues are set piece based though and I don't think Justin or Ricardo make much difference there and Fofana is superb in the air but its the system rather than the players currently. It has to change. I can accept us not being quite as strong defensively missing at least 2 starters but what we've shown this season is absolute filth, no excuses. Don't forget we missed Fofana, Soyuncu, Evans, Justin and Castagne for big chunks at a time last season and defended much much better until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Don't forget, a lot of our defensive issues are set piece based though and I don't think Justin or Ricardo make much difference there and Fofana is superb in the air but its the system rather than the players currently. It has to change. He's already change the system we definitely defended set pieces differently today. 22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I can accept us not being quite as strong defensively missing at least 2 starters but what we've shown this season is absolute filth, no excuses. Don't forget we missed Fofana, Soyuncu, Evans, Justin and Castagne for big chunks at a time last season and defended much much better until the end of the season. True but when we missed them before we had players fit and on form to replace them. Soyuncu came back from the Euros a different player and so did Castagne after he broken fractured eye socket. Top that of with Evans looking in pain every bloody game. I think it been a lesson for Rodgers that he has to adapt to the personal available, and has to improve that side of our game for the rest of the season. Defending as a whole hasn't been great across the league, only 5 teams have a + goal difference 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 1 minute ago, coolhandfox said: He's already change the system we definitely defended set pieces differently today. True but when we missed them before we had players fit and on form to replace them. Soyuncu came back from the Euros a different player and so did Castagne after he broken fractured eye socket. Top that of with Evans looking in pain every bloody game. I think it been a lesson for Rodgers that he has to adapt to the personal available, and has to improve that side of our game for the rest of the season. Defending as a whole hasn't been great across the league, only 5 teams have a + goal difference I was still somewhat unimpressed with the way we defended set pieces again today. Still seemed like zonal marking but there way possibly 1 or 2 now that attacked the ball rather than stand furling with their arseholes. Hopefully it's the start and we fine tune it, got a huge month ahead against some teams that will put us under massive pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: I was still somewhat unimpressed with the way we defended set pieces again today. Still seemed like zonal marking but there way possibly 1 or 2 now that attacked the ball rather than stand furling with their arseholes. Hopefully it's the start and we fine tune it, got a huge month ahead against some teams that will put us under massive pressure. Clean sheet will do a lot for their confidence, you can make strange decisions when under under pressure which leads to mistakes. I thought we did fine, Newcastle are a big side, and we held up well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 2 hours ago, An Sionnach said: Rodgers of course has been overrated on here , he is a good manager and his record tells you that but I think the disappointment is finding out he is not the genius some thought he was. However better the devil you know I say. We could have a calamity if we change now. Bring Leicester to two 5th place finishes and an FA cup in his time here is genius to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 Back 4 carried out the zonal marking and attacked the ball, whilst the others man marked is how I saw it Did we leave someone up as an out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 16 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Clean sheet will do a lot for their confidence, you can make strange decisions when under under pressure which leads to mistakes. I thought we did fine, Newcastle are a big side, and we held up well. I think if that freak back pass from Castagne had gone in, they'd all have walked off 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 December 2021 Share Posted 12 December 2021 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: I think if that freak back pass from Castagne had gone in, they'd all have walked off 😂 I thought it was in from where I sit. Kasper showed some good wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mickyblueeyes Posted 13 December 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 13 December 2021 Being in the Brendan out camp for me is not all about the results this year. That’s just part of it. It’s the poor preparation, coaching errors we’ve seen time and time again this season and parts of last. Inexcusable, low level defending, approach and structure. Great result today and lot of positives but it doesn’t mean it’s all gone away. In addition to all of that, it’s the mentality. It’s so defeatist. At the end of the first season where we dropped 15 points his reaction was we are privileged to be here and we shouldn’t be disappointed with the finish. I somewhat agreed with the approach given the collapse and how criticism could’ve destroyed some of the players. The second season, same thing. Which was weird given we collapsed against Southampton, Newcastle and a broken Spurs side. But ok, let’s live with it and go again next year. However, it’s always the way. The thinking. Today, about the EL exit, he is reported as saying: "We don't have the depth in Europe, especially with so many injuries, but with that quality we always have the chance to win games. We don’t have enough depth to get results against Legia and Spartak ? Those two clubs are far stronger then us (even with the injuries) ? We’ve cocked it up man, just accept it. Don’t tell us we lucky to be on the pitch against these teams. Now, some can live with that but the long runs of poor football, the collapses (there have been 1 too many), the shambolic organisation and the defeatist, happy to be here attitude annoys me. Today was a good start and the clean sheet was very welcomed but let’s not pretend we were faultless. I want to see us build from this, adapt some resilience and approach games better. May be we’ve turned a corner but get the feeling we will see a complete collapse again at some point in the future. That, with our budget, team and resources should never be “part of it”. Let’s see what the next 12 games bring. I’m still very much Brendan out and believe we may need a new direction. It happens sometimes. However, no one will be happier than me if he proves me wrong. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 13 December 2021 Share Posted 13 December 2021 We have not been great this season and in truth we have been patchy for most of this year. Some real highs and some messy lows but we are far from bad . We are a pretty loose team which usually means we attack with penetration and create plenty of goal threat but give the opposition a lot of freedom as well. We most certainly are not dull which means our matches are entertaining and not dour dogfights. If we want to threaten the top six on a regular basis however we will have to adopt a much more defensively ruthless game and that is not Rodgers's style. I see no way we can have it both ways but if you want results over entertainment then we need a different man. For me the status quo is the safest option right now but as our team matures and settles down a more hard nosed manager might be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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