SemperEadem Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Fact he gets paid so we'll restricts our budget enormously. That in fairness is not on him though. If we are pointing it as an error well that blames with Susan and Top. Edited 23 January 2022 by SemperEadem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, SemperEadem said: That in fairness is not on him though. If we are pointing it as an error well that blames likes with Susan and Top. Hes saying we don't have resources when we've paid him several times over our budget. The two don't add up. It's either a dig at the owners or an attempt to protect himself. Probably both. It's time for him to go in the summer and see what job he can talk himself into. Edited 23 January 2022 by Chocolate Teapot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George31 Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 January 2022 Genuinely amazed at the negativity about Brendan. Aside from the freak season when we won the league, since being promoted we have finished 14th, 12th, 9th, 9th, 5th, 5th. Rodgers has about a 50% win record which is astonishing. Our budget is probably about 10th in the division. I put Aston Villa ahead of us now financially. What do people expect? Also if we somehow won our 4 games in hand, we would be 5th. A point behind 4th. We have been overachieving massively. He is doing the right thing, taking the pressure off a young squad. What do you want him to say.... 'we should be doing a lot better, we should be qualifying for the champions league. This young squad is failing massively. We have the 10th highest budget in the league, but even though we've finished 5th and 5th, we are failures' Man Utd Man City Chelsea Liverpool Tottenham Arsenal Everton Wolves Aston Villa Leicester 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George31 Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 And also, Newcastle next season will push us down to 11th financially. We simply don't have the financial power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 4 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Hes saying we don't have resources when we've paid him several times over our budget. The two don't add up. It's either a dig at the owners or an attempt to protect himself. Probably both. It's time for him to go in the summer and see what job he can talk himself into. He clearly wants out probably wanted to go to Manchester United at the time but the board held firm, trying to get a severance package but maybe the owners have a plan and if we don’t finish well, we won’t pay out a big severance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 There are very few managers who can take a club above their financial limitations.Simeone is the leading example. Sometimes its better to stay with the devil you know otherwise you end up with an churn like Everton. They always think the next bloke is going to elevate them to Liverpool level. That almost certainly won't happen. I don't think we can sustain the City, Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool level but we should definitely aspire to compete at the same level as Arsenal and Spurs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 20 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Managing expectations inside the camp (and outside) is a key part of a managers job, if he is just a cheerleader then we could get anyone to do it. He's not 'managing expectations' though, he's putting a limit of success to improve the perception of his performance. He's been a good manager for us but we know he's an arrogant self promoter. Sadly the results have turned sour and he's looking to blame anything but himself. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 9 hours ago, UniFox21 said: Trying to reset expectations it seems If that’s the mentality he has he can go. Can’t imagine that motivates the players, especially our best ones who might be thinking about moves, not to mention it won’t impress Top who has made significant investment in infrastructure in recent years and is planning to do so more going forwards. He won’t want a club content to finish 10th. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 When is his contract up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CosbehFox Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) I’ve just read the article…people are just seeing the headline right? He says the following We’re not too far from where our budget is,’ said Rodgers. ‘I’ve a dose of realism from when I came in here. I said I wanted to disrupt the market and we have done that. We have won things - which is great. Progress has been hampered a little bit this season. With success, what happens is that you have two fifth-placed finishes and then you qualify for European football, people think you have created a foundation for success but for a club like ourselves, it may be the pinnacle. Because of resources and where others are at, it’s very difficult. ‘People think we are not taking one of the big clubs in this country into the top five then there’s massive resources to push it on. These players have been brilliant in these last couple of seasons. If we are missing players, then that’s where it’s at. We are on par, as such. My job is to elevate us beyond that and push and that’s what we have always done: win things, play good football and bring young players through. That’s the vision as it was outlined. For me, it’s to disrupt, keep fighting and all within keeping the club in a sustainable place. 'Whether that’s success or failure, it’s all about the narrative. I know where we have been and where we are taking the club. If expectation is there, that’s great because it means we’ve achieved something Edited 23 January 2022 by Cardiff_Fox 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winsum Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 Rodgers is constantly reminding everyone we are overachieving It is an opportunity to the players to fall short .Some of Rodgers tactics, substitutions and purchases have been questionable The fiasco against Spurs was nothing more than rank bad standards by certain players Rodgers is paid to perform whether overachieving that is a subjective judgement The owners have invested providing a top quality training facility , they are expanding the stadium, they are looking for the team and management to back this with performances. Rodgers continually spouting off does nothing to back this , Brendan pipe down and talk about progress rather than putting a safety net under your recent shortcomings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George31 Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 3 minutes ago, Devonfox1884 said: If that’s the mentality he has he can go. Can’t imagine that motivates the players, especially our best ones who might be thinking about moves, not to mention it won’t impress Top who has made significant investment in infrastructure in recent years and is planning to do so more going forwards. He won’t want a club content to finish 10th. If he doesn't want a club that finishes 10th, then he will have to sell the club. He doesn't have the financial power, we rely on selling players, you do realise this? Without selling players - we wouldn't even have this new training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 8 minutes ago, ealingfox said: When is his contract up? Not soon enough 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 January 2022 He states in the interview that his job is to win things and yet you've all fallen for the bait. Ahahahaha, fvcking hell. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 2 minutes ago, George31 said: If he doesn't want a club that finishes 10th, then he will have to sell the club. He doesn't have the financial power, we rely on selling players, you do realise this? Without selling players - we wouldn't even have this new training ground. Success doesn’t always equate to the amount of money being thrown about. If there is limited money, and it’s used in the right way, we can still be successful. What people define successful as for us will differ due to recent years and that’s fine. But of all clubs we should know that money isn’t always a prerequisite for success, of course it makes it easier, but a lack of money doesn’t mean we should essentially give up and revert to type. What I really can’t accept is that defeatist attitude from the highest-paid manager in our history. We never heard this when we were doing well did we? He’s covering his own back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Babylon Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 January 2022 Read the full article you utter melons. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 Honestly believe that at some point in the future people will be reminiscing about the current times (maybe not so much this season). Outside the financially immune top clubs, clubs like us have cycles. Villa, who are bigger than us, came 6th three years on the bounce and reached a cup final under MON. Few years later they ended up in the championship. not saying that’ll definitely happen to us, but anyone who wants Rodgers gone, be careful what you wish for. Easy to say we won’t do what Villa did, but you never know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Read the full article you utter melons. Er melons can't read 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 There is a lot of crap being spouted in here ……. but if it makes people feel better then it’s not a problem ….. its a business ……..we would rather it weren’t but it is. We are making attempts to raise ourselves up the food chain by infrastructure investments….. The board will not concentrate their outlook to the here and now unless we look like we are being dragged into a relegation battle over the current or next campaign. there are mitigating circumstances this season although the early part of last season was remarkable given our absentees - do not under estimate the mental damage done by a second consecutive top 4 capitulation which has clearly had a hang over affect. would think that the club will be hell bent in trying to finish this season on the front foot in contrast to the last two and to try and take that momentum into 22/23. If there is no change over the next few months and the following season looks like this one, both on and off the pitch, then I suspect the board will begin to look at the manager and his techniques 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 8 hours ago, Blue Fox 72 said: Which Scot are the Daily Fail referring to here? @TheSharpeEnd Any more inside info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) Few people beat me to it. IT'S THE DAILY FVCKING MAIL. Several of you have fallen for their clickbait. Some of you even mention that it's the Mail as well and you've still gone for the headline to take forward. Wake the fvck up people. Edited 23 January 2022 by StanSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanSP Posted 23 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 January 2022 What about these words? “My job is to elevate and that’s what we have always done: win things, play good football and bring players through. That’s the vision, to disrupt, keep fighting whilst keeping the club sustainable” No surprise some of you go straight for the negative though. Inbuilt in your psyche to take the worst bit and not think that there may be some other rationale in the argument. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 27 minutes ago, Babylon said: Read the full article you utter melons. People hang on to the negatives and dismiss the positives. We are going backwards according to some, new training ground, expanding the stadium, two 5th places, FA Cup win, two season in Europe. Half way through the season with 19 games to go and I see comments about writing off this season. Yet we could still finish in the European places and win two competitions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Apollo said: Honestly believe that at some point in the future people will be reminiscing about the current times (maybe not so much this season). Outside the financially immune top clubs, clubs like us have cycles. Villa, who are bigger than us, came 6th three years on the bounce and reached a cup final under MON. Few years later they ended up in the championship. not saying that’ll definitely happen to us, but anyone who wants Rodgers gone, be careful what you wish for. Easy to say we won’t do what Villa did, but you never know. Being careful what you wish for is very true. As is the the fact that teams trough and peak. But there is nothing wrong in believing that we’re currently on a knife edge with A) the manager B) players contracts C) Quality of recent signings I’m very concerned that some of the players are disillusioned now and that’s it’s easier to replace a manager than it is say Youri and Wilf. My belief is that in 5 years time we’ll look back on this period (September 2021- Today) and realise it was the moment we’ll regret not getting rid, or regret not keeping him. There are arguments for doing both, but given I’ll be amazed if he doesn’t leave on his own accord this summer, I don’t see the point in delaying the inevitable. That doesn’t make me ungrateful for the past 3 years. Though I do tend to see the two full league seasons as a failure in finishing 4th more than I do thinking it was successful finishing 5th. I don’t care about how how far we’ve come in the last 10 years either. We are dealing with the here and now. Get this wrong and we could one day end back up where we came from. Edited 23 January 2022 by The Year Of The Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 23 January 2022 Share Posted 23 January 2022 I was proper pissed off with him before Christmas and wanted him out but after calming down a bit I can’t see anyone else coming in a doing a better job all things considered. When we’ve need more players he hasn’t really been backed IMO, the last two January windows and probably this one when we’ve needed some more bodies he hasn’t really been given anyone decent, I feel sorry for the bloke he had to contend with Ryan Bennett. I do think come this summer we’ll have more funds available and I don’t mean just through player sales. Clearly the club has a plan and will have to spend some money which I sure is budgeted for with players running low on contracts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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