Brendan Rodgers

[Lako42]

15 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Hes a savvy bloke, im shocked how many people are ignoring their own eyes and lapping up his narrative.

I get exactly what you re saying but the facts are that nobody wants him. 

 

He's savvy enough to know that. 

[BKLFox]

8 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Oh yes, plenty of blame and criticism still needs to be put on his but no amount of tactics, team talks or training can be responsible for how that lot of jokers played at the end of the Tottenham game and throughout the Forest game.

This seems to have been over looked in all the hate.
I don’t have enough fingers n toes to count how many goals have been gifted through individual errors & lacks of concentration, that has nothing to do with what bleeding formation they are meant to be in

[Aus Fox]

16 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I don't think his recent comments regarding players are such a bad thing. Time after time he's defended the players following awful performances, and that in itself angers the fan base. I think it's been coming, his last few interviews he's looked noticeably stressed and frustrated at having to defend players, he looked like a man who didn't believe his own words.

 

I think its come to a point now where he can feel the pressure and realises some of the player are indefensible so has just spoken the truth. What's the worse that can happen? players down tools? that already happened weeks ago.

 

Rodgers has lost the dressing room and is on borrowed time, that's as clear as anything.

I agree with most of what you’re saying here, however I’m not sure he’s lost the whole dressing room.

I think he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place somewhat, it appears players like Soyuncu and Tielemans in particular have decided they are bigger than the club and want out and both will be off early in the summer.

The problem lies then with the injuries to Evans and Fofana meaning it is almost impossible to drop Soyuncu as it leaves a CB partnership of Vestergaard and Amartey. 
As for Tielemans, you know if you drop him, everyone knows he wants out and with his contract running down, we lose millions in a potential transfer fee. 
I believe this is one of the reasons Tielemans was made captain on the weekend - an extra few million for buying our captain.
The Tielemans money I believe is what we are relying on to fund 2 or 3 players coming in. 
On the pitch, can we afford to be going in with 2 players every week who are not fully committed? But can we afford to drop them? It’s a 
tough situation, made worse by not having Evans and Vardy leading on the pitch.

[cruzFOX]

BBC Football daily mentioned some stat on how many goals we have leaked in this season and I almost choked while driving! It averages 2 goals against us every game!

I know we’ve been bad but that stat is pretty damning. WTH has happened to us?

if we are planning for the summer we better be ready to splash some cash on some top defenders to compliment foffana.

[StanSP]

47 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He's right though that it's misleading. It's not a cast iron failure but the circumstances make it a huge blot on our copy book twice and it given the continued slump its hard to ignore.

 

26 minutes ago, LestaAl said:

It certainly felt like a failure st the time.

Of course.

Ultimately, it wasn't. 

[FoxyJim1987]

Yes it was annoying to just miss out on the top 4 two seasons in a row but just read that sentence again. If, in 2015 as a Leicester fan you thought you'd ever hear that sentence you'd be a raving lunatic. We then won the only missing trophy the FA Cup beating United and Chelsea, we are Leicester bleeding City not a big boy, and despite a so called crisis are mid table in the premier League which under O Neill was as high as we ever got.

[Pliskin]

Tell you one player who’s ****ed me off…. Barnes…. He’s been dog shit this season, and yesterday was frankly pathetic letting Thomas get rodded from both ends. 

[Aus Fox]

Just now, cruzFOX said:

BBC Football daily mentioned some stat on how many goals we have leaked in this season and I almost choked while driving! It averages 2 goals against us every game!

I know we’ve been bad but that stat is pretty damning. WTH has happened to us?

if we are planning for the summer we better be ready to splash some cash on some top defenders to compliment foffana.

Again our first choice back four 

Justin Evans Fofana Ricardo have barely kicked a ball between them this season. You take the first choice back four out of any team and it’s going to be poor.

Add to this Castagne has missed a lot of games, Soyuncu hasn’t had a great season and It’s not a pretty picture

[Lako42]

We need a manager who is capable of getting the basics right. 

 

Players are crying out for some real organisation. 

 

Start by not making a depleted defence play as though they are all Beckenbauer in his prime. 

 

Not making a player as immobile as vestegard defend on the half way line. It's just ****ing bonkers. 

[Aus Fox]

Just now, Pliskin said:

Tell you one player who’s ****ed me off…. Barnes…. He’s been dog shit this season, and yesterday was frankly pathetic letting Thomas get rodded from both ends. 

Good point on Barnes, really hasn’t come back from injury the same player. I think he’s always had his defensive weakness, but pre injuries this was offset by fast attacking play and absolutely tearing some teams apart. I can’t think of a game this season when he has really taken the game by the scruff of the neck.

[Lako42]

Just now, Aus Fox said:

Good point on Barnes, really hasn’t come back from injury the same player. I think he’s always had his defensive weakness, but pre injuries this was offset by fast attacking play and absolutely tearing some teams apart. I can’t think of a game this season when he has really taken the game by the scruff of the neck.

He's had covid twice. 

 

Partly down the fact he's in London casinos most weeks. 

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Yes it was annoying to just miss out on the top 4 two seasons in a row but just read that sentence again. If, in 2015 as a Leicester fan you thought you'd ever hear that sentence you'd be a raving lunatic. We then won the only missing trophy the FA Cup beating United and Chelsea, we are Leicester bleeding City not a big boy, and despite a so called crisis are mid table in the premier League which under O Neill was as high as we ever got.

Attitudes like this are pure waffle…. Absolute bollocks. We’ve not been finishing high in the league by accident, this is one of the most talented quads we’ve ever had…. And some throbber is constantly moaning about clear outs and a lack of resources….. 

 

Ill say it again, you don’t pump the kind of money into the club that our owners have to be a ‘mid table team’. 

[cruzFOX]

That is true. Feel like 85% of the leagues bad luck injuries all landed on us while teams like city who have a bounty of elite players suffer only slightly. Why is that?

[Pliskin]

Just now, Lako42 said:

He's had covid twice. 

 

Partly down the fact he's in London casinos most weeks. 

I was speaking to a lad who reckons he’s close mates with Barnes… said he’s a bit of a party animal. I didn’t believe him but then he showed me a video of Barnes sparked in a club….

[Ric Flair]

Right, can someone offer some comfort here. Can we compile a portfolio of examples of when managers have turned around massive slumps after being at a club a while? It will have happened much more many years ago when managers got a chance but have we got some we can draw strength on that Rodgers could turn it around because otherwise anyone sticking up for him is absolutely pointless. 

 

Klopp did it last season, but can't think of many others.

 

Sadly my memory is filled with managers who failed to arrest slumps:

 

Mourinho's got 2 horrid stints at Chelsea and 1 at Man Utd where he couldn't turn it around.

 

Rodgers a failure against his name at Liverpool where they bombed after 2013/14.

 

Lampard at Chelsea, could that be classed as being given enough time to prove he failed to turn it around?

 

Martinez at Everton was absolute pony after a few decent years, probably on a par to our current predicament.

 

 

[Pliskin]

3 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Good point on Barnes, really hasn’t come back from injury the same player. I think he’s always had his defensive weakness, but pre injuries this was offset by fast attacking play and absolutely tearing some teams apart. I can’t think of a game this season when he has really taken the game by the scruff of the neck.

It’s partly down to how we’re set up, at the moment we’re playing like an pensioners walking football team. Which doesn’t suite Barnes’s style…. But then players need to be able to take some of the responsibility themselves too, and force the issue, which is something he really hasn’t done. I’m really disappointed in him. 

[lcfcsnow]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Can we compile a portfolio of examples of when managers have turned around massive slumps after being at a club a while?

Pearson did it a few times, we were awful for a few months towards the end of 2012-13 were top two and and almost failed to make playoffs but then won the league the following year. Also during the great escape.

[cruzFOX]

Haggenbottom or whatever his name is at Southampton I was sure he’d get the axe after we clobbered his team. They were on a slump but our humiliation of them work them up and they’ve been decent since then.

[deep blue]

5 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Hardly ideal to expect a youngster (Brunt) to be the sudden first choice, every chance of damaging his development with that pressue

Hamza, is a bit of an odd one, he was suddenly marvellous in that game, but went, have to assume he does not do it enough on the training ground, as what other choice do we have  

Or maybe he is on the naughty step.....

I never suggested that Brunt should be a first choice - quite the opposite - so please don't soil my narrative with inventions of your own.

 

What I said is that our injuries haven't left us with no defensive options.  We do have players such as Brunt and Choudhury to fall back on when our first choices are unavailable, and they haven't let us down recently;  quite the contrary.

 

You have no evidence to suggest that Brunt's development may be compromised by the pressure of another game.  The only evidence we have is in observing that he handled his first experience with aplomb.

 

As for Hamza, if Rodgers won't play him, for such a reason, when the team need him (and it's a fair assumption that he would have fared better yesterday than some of the "combattants") then that's a poor reflection on Rodgers' priorities as our manager.

 

[Ric Flair]

This is huge conjecture on my part but given @Chocolate Teapot has alluded to Rodgers insinuating Barnes isn't doing what he should do at times, I wonder if there's an issue there. Barnes may well hold it against Rodgers for continuing to play him when carrying a concerning knee issue in Jan and Feb that ended his season, a chance to play in the FA Cup final and a near certain spot in the Euro 2020 preliminary squad with England.

 

Something seems a miss, if Rodgers does go soon and Barnes immediately gets his confidence and momentum back then I'm the next Uri Geller.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

This is huge conjecture on my part but given @Chocolate Teapot has alluded to Rodgers insinuating Barnes isn't doing what he should do at times, I wonder if there's an issue there. Barnes may well hold it against Rodgers for continuing to play him when carrying a concerning knee issue in Jan and Feb that ended his season, a chance to play in the FA Cup final and a near certain spot in the Euro 2020 preliminary squad with England.

 

Something seems a miss, if Rodgers does go soon and Barnes immediately gets his confidence and momentum back then I'm the next Uri Geller.

I'm entirely guessing based on what he said in one pre match press conference and the fact he's been dragged many times. 

[MattFox]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Right, can someone offer some comfort here. Can we compile a portfolio of examples of when managers have turned around massive slumps after being at a club a while? It will have happened much more many years ago when managers got a chance but have we got some we can draw strength on that Rodgers could turn it around because otherwise anyone sticking up for him is absolutely pointless. 

 

Klopp did it last season, but can't think of many others.

 

Sadly my memory is filled with managers who failed to arrest slumps:

 

Mourinho's got 2 horrid stints at Chelsea and 1 at Man Utd where he couldn't turn it around.

 

Rodgers a failure against his name at Liverpool where they bombed after 2013/14.

 

Lampard at Chelsea, could that be classed as being given enough time to prove he failed to turn it around?

 

Martinez at Everton was absolute pony after a few decent years, probably on a par to our current predicament.

 

 

Dean Smith turned it around at Villa after staying up on the last day in their first season up,then slumped again this season and got sacked.

Although turning it around for them meant finishing 11th not 17th

 

[Ric Flair]

Just now, MattFox said:

Dean Smith turned it around at Villa after staying up on the last day in their first season up,then slumped again this season and got sacked.

Although turning it around for them meant finishing 11th not 17th

 

Another similar example to us in that he was trying a rebuild and they were getting worse and worse.

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

This is huge conjecture on my part but given @Chocolate Teapot has alluded to Rodgers insinuating Barnes isn't doing what he should do at times, I wonder if there's an issue there. Barnes may well hold it against Rodgers for continuing to play him when carrying a concerning knee issue in Jan and Feb that ended his season, a chance to play in the FA Cup final and a near certain spot in the Euro 2020 preliminary squad with England.

 

Something seems a miss, if Rodgers does go soon and Barnes immediately gets his confidence and momentum back then I'm the next Uri Geller.

I think you’re over thinking it ric ……

 

I do believe that rodgers doesn’t think Barnes doesn’t get back and cover effectively

 

yesterday, the cross for the first goal comes in from the right - cags has been drawn out to help Thomas and our defensive shape is stretched as a consequence - I assume that rodgers believes Barnes should be doing that.  There are other more tactical issues like closing down passing lanes which he may also be getting wrong. 

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

I think you’re over thinking it ric ……

 

I do believe that rodgers doesn’t think Barnes doesn’t get back and cover effectively

 

yesterday, the cross for the first goal comes in from the right - cags has been drawn out to help Thomas and our defensive shape is stretched as a consequence - I assume that rodgers believes Barnes should be doing that.  There are other more tactical issues like closing down passing lanes which he may also be getting wrong. 

Yeah I'm not happy with Barnes defensive side of the game. I get it that some attacking players aren't that good defensively but it's a desire rather than a lack of ability that annoys me with some players.