Dahnsouff Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 Too much hyperbole taken as gospel in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceebeefox Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 9 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...if you go back to Mahrez, he did no defensive work, why can't we have a situation where this is how we play Barnes!!! I am not worried about what other teams do, Barnes does not have to be running backwards to defend, he can effectively be the first line of defence from the front. If he is cutting out passing lanes or closing down fullbacks forcing them to go long, then he is doing a job for the team. Totally agree, he shouldn’t have to defend, but sadly unlike Mahrez , Harvey doesn’t have the magnificent defensive qualities of Simmo behind him, or Fuchs on the other side. The proudest point for me on the title win was we beat the tippy tappy premier with a 442 , round pegs in round holes. Still a great system but we couldn’t play that now. Don’t see Mane or Salah doing much defensively for the scousers either? And we’re supposed to be 433 at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiv Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 Just now, ceebeefox said: Totally agree, he shouldn’t have to defend, but sadly unlike Mahrez , Harvey doesn’t have the magnificent defensive qualities of Simmo behind him, or Fuchs on the other side. The proudest point for me on the title win was we beat the tippy tappy premier with a 442 , round pegs in round holes. Still a great system but we couldn’t play that now. Don’t see Mane or Salah doing much defensively for the scousers either? And we’re supposed to be 433 at times. If you think Mane and Salah do zero defensive work you clearly haven’t watched Liverpool much. Their work rate is unreal and Klopp expects a certain standard from all his players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 7 hours ago, chapero82 said: So it was Rodgers fault we got Southamptons defence Rodgers has the final say on all transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 12 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Rodgers has the final say on all transfers. That maybe so but he went against our model to sign two rubbish players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 Wow, that changes things for me. There was a suspicion that Rodgers wanted Vestergaard but Tanner is well connected and wouldn't say this if he didn't have firm evidence, given the potential backlash from the club. Sounds like he's learned his lesson but that decision has had such a detrimental impact on the team. Less concerned about Bertrand as there wasn't a transfer fee but still a poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 10 hours ago, st albans fox said: Thats not what happened though ……. If it is what happened then you’d be right …….but it isn’t ….. I’ve read various reports suggesting it did and then some that refer to it happening before match day. You’re right, if it was before match day, fair enough (although still not sure I’d use that particular motivation bullet prior to Forest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 Not sure I really trust Brendan to do the rebuild. I would personally write this season off. Sack him and get Potter in the summer. Give this very talented team the kick up the arse it so obviously needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, StanSP said: He signed Fofana and Daka though? Or was that just the recruitment team with no Rodgers input? Fofana and Daka fit much more into our normal model of transfers in, (young, unproven) so it would be natural to guess that they were the work of our recruitment team rather than Rodgers. Edited 8 February 2022 by deep blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 It probably wouldn’t have made a different but why the **** did he play Ward instead of Schmeichel? I’d rather he started against Liverpool. How can you tell your fans we want to defend the trophy when you don’t pick your absolute best eleven. Kasper loses his head but we needed someone to give the defence a bollocking on Sunday and they were all just looking round feeling sorry for themselves. You can’t pin them on Ward, but he was also in goal at Newport and Zorya when we pathetically lost there too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 42 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Wow, that changes things for me. There was a suspicion that Rodgers wanted Vestergaard but Tanner is well connected and wouldn't say this if he didn't have firm evidence, given the potential backlash from the club. Sounds like he's learned his lesson but that decision has had such a detrimental impact on the team. Less concerned about Bertrand as there wasn't a transfer fee but still a poor decision. Agree with this cannot understand why a journo hasn’t picked up on his comments re fofana being vital to the way we want to play in compressing the play and deciding vestergaard was a suitable purchase to plug the gap ?? the ‘kop out’ answer would be that he wanted someone to play in a three for when we needed a different approach - but I’d like to hear him say that because if he didn’t, it would raise a lot of questions …. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 9 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: It probably wouldn’t have made a different but why the **** did he play Ward instead of Schmeichel? I’d rather he started against Liverpool. How can you tell your fans we want to defend the trophy when you don’t pick your absolute best eleven. Kasper loses his head but we needed someone to give the defence a bollocking on Sunday and they were all just looking round feeling sorry for themselves. You can’t pin them on Ward, but he was also in goal at Newport and Zorya when we pathetically lost there too. Who was in goal for Newcastle (2-4), Prague (2-0), Bournemouth (4-1), Spurs (2-4), Spurs again (3-3)? God I hope it was Kasper after I've said this without checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 10 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ....because both managers want them to!!! We do not have to emulate other teams. Mahrez when he was here did not defend, it worked for us. The thing with football is that new ideas come and other teams copy and it becomes a universal way of playing the game. It does mot mean it can't work, we have seen it in practice, it really does not matter what other teams do. You would also have to tell the LB Justin or Thomas not to cross the halfway line as per Simpson, you’ve then just negated an attacking option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 10 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Agree with this cannot understand why a journo hasn’t picked up on his comments re fofana being vital to the way we want to play in compressing the play and deciding vestergaard was a suitable purchase to plug the gap ?? the ‘kop out’ answer would be that he wanted someone to play in a three for when we needed a different approach - but I’d like to hear him say that because if he didn’t, it would raise a lot of questions …. The response would be something like this if Rodgers was ever asked such a probing question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 7 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Agree with this cannot understand why a journo hasn’t picked up on his comments re fofana being vital to the way we want to play in compressing the play and deciding vestergaard was a suitable purchase to plug the gap ?? the ‘kop out’ answer would be that he wanted someone to play in a three for when we needed a different approach - but I’d like to hear him say that because if he didn’t, it would raise a lot of questions …. I think Tanner wrote an article on that very point, and Rodgers was asked about it. His claim was Vestergaard was capable of pressing the ball. Either Rodgers made a horrible misjudgement, or he thought he could coach him to do this which also was misplaced. So disappointed, thought he had learned more from his Liverpool experience. The three buys that it appears he and Congerton insisted upon - Perez, Vestergaard and Bertrand - have been our worst signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 3 minutes ago, BKLFox said: You would also have to tell the LB Justin or Thomas not to cross the halfway line as per Simpson, you’ve then just negated an attacking option. Spence was up and down that right side for Forest and JJ can do that easily. Luke has to get that into his game and I am sure he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eblair Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 not convinced by people putting blame on southampton two squarely at rodgers; feels like recruitment team trying to blame others i get logic behind signing experienced pros especially when fuchs and wes left; we just signed the worst two possible players you could find in the uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 5 minutes ago, turlo said: The response would be something like this if Rodgers was ever asked such a probing question. LOL. This is what he actually said: "If you look at where he's come from, a team that presses the game, that is high up the pitch. He has to do that. He's played in a national team that will press the game". For such a capable coach and man-manager, he does some really stupid things to shoot himself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 7 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Spence was up and down that right side for Forest and JJ can do that easily. Luke has to get that into his game and I am sure he will. What formation were they in? i think that 1 isn't welcomed on here. Also Johnson was covering when Spence went beyond him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, filbertway said: Who was in goal for Newcastle (2-4), Prague (2-0), Bournemouth (4-1), Spurs (2-4), Spurs again (3-3)? God I hope it was Kasper after I've said this without checking Yeah exactly, it’s just a thought I had when clutching at straws but we needed some kind of direction. At least they were all top flight opposition. Edited 8 February 2022 by RonnieTodger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 The Athletic podcast is well worth a listen where Tanner discusses the club: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianSwan Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 Maybe you should steal another Celtic manager? Ange's teams plays excellent football and he has a great eye for a deal, picked up some great players for cheap due to his knowledge of the Japanese league, two things Leicester want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: Not sure I really trust Brendan to do the rebuild. I would personally write this season off. Sack him and get Potter in the summer. Give this very talented team the kick up the arse it so obviously needs. If he's in charge of the rebuild and he goes further against the recruitment model that has largely served us well in the past then it'll be no surprise to see our stronghold as the best of the rest gone for a long, long time. Given the financial burden from the training ground and stadium, we'll not be able to buy our way out of any mistakes in this crucial rebuild so it could be devastating to allow him to do it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 48 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said: It probably wouldn’t have made a different but why the **** did he play Ward instead of Schmeichel? I’d rather he started against Liverpool. How can you tell your fans we want to defend the trophy when you don’t pick your absolute best eleven. Kasper loses his head but we needed someone to give the defence a bollocking on Sunday and they were all just looking round feeling sorry for themselves. You can’t pin them on Ward, but he was also in goal at Newport and Zorya when we pathetically lost there too. I'll point you towards the Kasper thread, this place yings & yangs between him being great to absolute shite depending on result & how many times he's kicked the ball off the field. Agree his voice was needed when they lost their heads & shrunk up their own hoops but he wasn't & we learnt a bit more about certain players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 8 February 2022 Share Posted 8 February 2022 (edited) In that Athletic podcast, Rob infers that Brendan has learnt from the Vestergaard / Bertrand signings and that the club has become very wary of varying from the model that has served us so well in the past. I just hope its not hyperbole on Rob's part. Edited 8 February 2022 by Dahnsouff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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