lcfc_forever Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 Said all the right things in the press conference today and took responsibility. But talk is cheap, the commitment and effort of the players will tell us where things really are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrington fox Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 4 hours ago, Chloe_77 said: If it’s two humiliations, and the players look disinterested then that’s when the club will get involved in my opinion. However If it’s two 2-0 losses then i think Rodgers will somehow be let off the hook. Let’s be honest it’ll be more then 2-0 at either match😂 Never, Liverpool yes maybe. But If we turn up not confident of beating West Ham at home then we may as well not bother. Have to be going for all 3 in that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 Numerous fans on this forum realised this in the summer, instead he signed players like Vestergaard & Soumare. Losing players like Big Wes and not properly replacing him, has proven to be a silly mistake. And some people had the audacity to laugh at my suggestion of signing Gary Cahill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 10 minutes ago, kingfox said: Numerous fans on this forum realised this in the summer, instead he signed players like Vestergaard & Soumare. Losing players like Big Wes and not properly replacing him, has proven to be a silly mistake. And some people had the audacity to laugh at my suggestion of signing Gary Cahill Exactly, Why hasn’t he signed any then ? Rodgers has put this squad together, only got himself to blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 7 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Don’t think the Liverpool result will impact anything, but the level of performance should. West Ham might even be the same tbh. Not unless God arrives and raises Evans and Fofana from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 17 minutes ago, SO1 said: Not unless God arrives and raises Evans and Fofana from the dead. I have a whole ocean of misplaced hope here, happy to share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 1 hour ago, Farrington fox said: Never, Liverpool yes maybe. But If we turn up not confident of beating West Ham at home then we may as well not bother. Have to be going for all 3 in that one. ...if there is a team that has our number, it is West Ham!!! I would more likely expect a result from the Liverpool game than anything from West Ham. This game tomorrow is very hard to assess due to the performance on Sunday and Rodgers comments after the game. The players reaction will be interesting and I suspect the team sheet will be much changed if Rodgers reaction to what he saw backs up his comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 The thing about lacking leaders is quite generic though. It's the same as saying someone with grit and determination is needed when losing games that are turgid and boring. The clubs soft underbelly isn't to do with leadership on the pitch IMO, don't forget we've been a disgrace at times with Kasper, Morgan, Fuchs, Evans, Albrighton and Vardy but its easy to think that leadership is the difference between collapsing or succeeding. It certainly has a part in it, but you could have 11 ex captains out there and it not be right. What I see is a crisis of confidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcFc_Smiv Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 23 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...if there is a team that has our number, it is West Ham!!! I would more likely expect a result from the Liverpool game than anything from West Ham. This game tomorrow is very hard to assess due to the performance on Sunday and Rodgers comments after the game. The players reaction will be interesting and I suspect the team sheet will be much changed if Rodgers reaction to what he saw backs up his comments. I just can't see him making big changes, or what I would call meaningful changes. It's been reported from today's press conference that it will be pretty much the same squad as Sunday (that's to be expected with our squad size). Is he going to drop bigger names such as Tielemans and Soyuncu when he will want to beat Liverpool? These are two whose performances have been off it for a while and have shown to lack some fight and desire against Forest. Or is he going to go safe and drop the likes of Thomas, Justin, Barnes etc who have put the effort in but have been inconsistent. Definitely safer options as the players he will replace them with are of similar quality. He certainly has a chance to back up his comments and make a statement with his team selection. I just dont know if he will make those changes against a team like Liverpool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 He said the same thing before the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 If Brendan drops an underperforming Soyuncu or less so, but still suspect Amartey, for Vestergaard, would people moan prior to kick off? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 40 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: The thing about lacking leaders is quite generic though. It's the same as saying someone with grit and determination is needed when losing games that are turgid and boring. The clubs soft underbelly isn't to do with leadership on the pitch IMO, don't forget we've been a disgrace at times with Kasper, Morgan, Fuchs, Evans, Albrighton and Vardy but its easy to think that leadership is the difference between collapsing or succeeding. It certainly has a part in it, but you could have 11 ex captains out there and it not be right. What I see is a crisis of confidence. I would say you have hit the nail on the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 February 2022 Author Share Posted 9 February 2022 2 hours ago, kingfox said: Numerous fans on this forum realised this in the summer, instead he signed players like Vestergaard & Soumare. Losing players like Big Wes and not properly replacing him, has proven to be a silly mistake. And some people had the audacity to laugh at my suggestion of signing Gary Cahill You don't have to be an experienced player to be a leader. Players like Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane were leaders of their teams in their early/mid 20's. It's about players attitude, determination and wanting to win not their experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcFc_Smiv Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: If Brendan drops an underperforming Soyuncu or less so, but still suspect Amartey, for Vestergaard, would people moan prior to kick off? Genuine question. Personally no, Vestergaard hasn't been good enough but for me Soyuncu has been well below the standard and continually looks sloppy on the ball and lazy in his approach to defending. He needs dropping for me, if it's for Vestergaard so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 2 hours ago, kingfox said: Numerous fans on this forum realised this in the summer, instead he signed players like Vestergaard & Soumare. Losing players like Big Wes and not properly replacing him, has proven to be a silly mistake. And some people had the audacity to laugh at my suggestion of signing Gary Cahill Dunno I work with a Bournemouth fan who says Cahill has been a great big waste of time and that’s why they’ve spent a lot on an loan in Nat Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 1 minute ago, LcFc_Smiv said: Personally no, Vestergaard hasn't been good enough but for me Soyuncu has been well below the standard and continually looks sloppy on the ball and lazy in his approach to defending. He needs dropping for me, if it's for Vestergaard so be it. Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 3 minutes ago, LcFc_Smiv said: Personally no, Vestergaard hasn't been good enough but for me Soyuncu has been well below the standard and continually looks sloppy on the ball and lazy in his approach to defending. He needs dropping for me, if it's for Vestergaard so be it. Realise it is devil/deep blue sea type question, but I would not be outraged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 Just now, LcFc_Smiv said: Personally no, Vestergaard hasn't been good enough but for me Soyuncu has been well below the standard and continually looks sloppy on the ball and lazy in his approach to defending. He needs dropping for me, if it's for Vestergaard so be it. Agree, and unlikely we'll play a high press vs Liverpool. I think it will be a 3 atb, with Ndidi, Justin and one other player. Wouldn't surprise me if chose Brunt, and he is left-sided, although would be a massive call to put him in against Liverpool. Vestergaard also plays on the left-side of a 3-man defence for Denmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 Just now, CrispinLA in Texas said: Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently Cannot imagine Euro 2020 helped 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LcFc_Smiv Posted 9 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 9 February 2022 3 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently We as a team were brilliant two years ago. What happened? Speaking to mates who are Celtic fans they say the same about themselves under Rodgers, to begin with, unbelievable, by the end, unbearable. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 1 minute ago, LcFc_Smiv said: We as a team were brilliant two years ago. What happened? Speaking to mates who are Celtic fans they say the same about themselves under Rodgers, to begin with, unbelievable, by the end, unbearable. Ditto my Liverpool supporting pals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post weller54 Posted 9 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 9 February 2022 7 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently He had a brilliant, in form, injury free Jonny Evans along side him. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 3 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Cannot imagine Euro 2020 helped Thinking about it, his form started to fall at the start of 2020, and got worse after the restart. He started the following season well but his form went when the pressure was on towards the end of the season, especially vs Newcastle and Spurs. He's better with Evans alongside him, or more recently Ndidi. But when the heat is on, he struggles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 9 February 2022 Share Posted 9 February 2022 35 minutes ago, Fox92 said: You don't have to be an experienced player to be a leader. Players like Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane were leaders of their teams in their early/mid 20's. It's about players attitude, determination and wanting to win not their experience. I’m not necessarily talking about experience. It’s about getting in the right character, who’s key attribute is leadership. We lost our main leader in Big Wes, we replaced him with bloody Vestergaard. Someone like Cahill was there to be snapped up, he happens to be experienced, but the key thing is that he has leadership qualities. Teams have certain players like that to call upon, we don’t. From our team I believe that Schmeichel & Evans are the only two who are captain material, I’ve never looked at the likes of Albrighton & Vardy and thought “Captain”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 February 2022 Author Share Posted 9 February 2022 41 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Soyuncu was brilliant 2years ago. Whats happened? has he been mismanaged....a fallout with Brendan or is being played or been told to play differently He had one brilliant season. Perhaps he's just not that good. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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