Brendan Rodgers

[HybridFox]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

I make that the 19th time we have scored 4 or more goals in a game under Rodgers in the league or cups in 3 years. 

We're a joy to watch when we get it right. Absolute horror show when it doesn't come off. There's no in between with Leicester 

[Jimmy]

3 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said:

Attacking subs tonight!

 

When he brought Maddison on I nearly fell off my seat.

 

We should run out of defenders more often

he didn't have much choice we didn't have any defenders to bring on

[smudgerfox]

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

[filbertway]

8 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I make that the 19th time we have scored 4 or more goals in a game under Rodgers in the league or cups in 3 years. 

Probably should have been the 2nd time we scored 9 tbf

 

They were awful, not even sure they had a player in our half in the 2nd half

[fuchsntf]

5 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

Thank God you and others aint Doctors.

 

So all People who collapse or even die in sport, or Everyday life, must have felt Ill before....

I .mean...ffs...

what happened to your education...Not forgetting you had Time to Think before you posted...

[hejammy]

13 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

He seemed perfectly fine when warming up multiple times. Seems like a clutch at straws to enable you to say something negative towards BR. 

Edited 18 February 2022 by hejammy

[sacreblueits442]

30 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

....players are like children, they always want to play as they feel they are missing out!!!

 He (Maddison) would have kept it quiet if he had symptoms and felt that what ever it is he could run it off.

[Langston]

11 hours ago, Sankey93 said:

I’d still sack him. Let’s be honest we was playing a league 2 side tonight and first half was appalling! Get AVB in and lets crack on I say. 

 

I want him gone but bringing in Villas-Boas would be an absolute catastrophe

[David Hankey]

Unbelievable how many disappointed users on this forum want BR gone.

 

The fact is BR is not going anywhere soon, the owner will decide when enough is enough so get used to it.

[StanSP]

2 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

Not necessarily. 

[Rain King]

2 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

Yet another puzzle on the fitness/sub front last night. 

if Madders was ill so shortly after coming on - feeling ill, dizzy etc as described by BR - surely he must have been feeling that way beforehand. So why bring him on at 4-1at all? 

 

Not necessarily. 

 

Hardly at the same level I know but there has been a few occasions playing local football where I've started a match or come on as sub feeling fine and just a few minutes later developed a migraine or have been sick*

 

 

*not including times hungover from the night before.

[smudgerfox]

24 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Unbelievable how many disappointed users on this forum want BR gone.

 

 

Just to be clear - I am a severe critic of BR because I think he is vastly overrated and I am very worried about handing over a major redevelopment of my club, to him. There are good reasons to doubt his ability to carry this out successfully (see his transfer record at Celtic and Liverpool) and the way he has handled talented players such as Mendy, Ihenacho and Praet while at the club - placing his faith in his own playing system above utilising the whole of a talented squad to the maximum. I also think it wholly unrealistic to think that something as fundamental as defending corners successfully can only be achieved when your best defenders are available. 
 

I don’t want him out until a better, realistic candidate can be found. But it serves no-one - not least BR himself - to turn a blind eye to his shortcomings. 

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, filbertway said:

Probably should have been the 2nd time we scored 9 tbf

 

They were awful, not even sure they had a player in our half in the 2nd half

They reminded me of a very poor Newcastle/Watford team who we have comfortably beaten by 4 or 5 on a regular basis but you still have to do it and given how bad we've been in the last week or two it's a relief.

[LCCFox96]

The quality of the opposition last night is irrelevant. Winning breeds confidence, we desperately needed a win, and we got a win. Bar the surprise equaliser - which imo doesn't happen without Albrighton's unfortunate slip - they were put to the sword relatively easily and we created a hatful of chances. In addition we rested Ricardo for the weekend and put in another solid team performance to build on the second half of West Ham. It's a very small step granted, but at least it's a small step in the right direction. Last night goes down as a success for Rodgers and the coaching team, and with any luck we back it up again with a result at Wolves.

[smudgerfox]

Not a common occurrence in elite level football I think you’ll find - where tip top conditioning is required and expert medical science is available. The game was won ffs - it was totally unnecessary for Maddison to risk his health further by taking part…

 

but I agree, very Sunday League - a bit like wheeling out a tall guy to defend corners at the end to defend a lead - a world away from elite level management 

[BKLFox]

Why do posters continually go on about what Liverpool or Celtic fans say about Rodgers, if we all listened to 'ex's' none of us will have partners or go on to be married.

Edited 18 February 2022 by BKLFox

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Why do posters continually go on about what Liverpool or Celtic fans say about Rodgers, if we all listened to 'ex's' none of us will have partners or go on to be married.

Maybe because pretty much everything @Muzzy_Larsson has said from the off about him has come true? 

[BKLFox]

15 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Not a common occurrence in elite level football I think you’ll find - where tip top conditioning is required and expert medical science is available. The game was won ffs - it was totally unnecessary for Maddison to risk his health further by taking part…

 

but I agree, very Sunday League - a bit like wheeling out a tall guy to defend corners at the end to defend a lead - a world away from elite level management 

Have you never had a head rush when standing up to fast or a sudden bout of dizziness that just came out the blue? sometimes these things just happen i'm sure there's no neglect or malpractice going on behind the scenes

[BenTheFox]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

Unbelievable how many disappointed users on this forum want BR gone.

 

The fact is BR is not going anywhere soon, the owner will decide when enough is enough so get used to it.

Just for a minute put the first two full seasons to one side, what are you seeing right now that is keeping you so firmly on side and what makes you think that he is going to get it right in the future? Sentiment is a thing of the past in football, you can only really focus on the here and now and I'm concerned about where we are going. 

[Dusty]

5 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Just for a minute put the first two full seasons to one side, what are you seeing right now that is keeping you so firmly on side and what makes you think that he is going to get it right in the future? Sentiment is a thing of the past in football, you can only really focus on the here and now and I'm concerned about where we are going. 

Seems a bit silly when you say it like that tho. If you isolated Liverpool this time last season then they’d want klopp gone too.

[Leicester_Loyal]

18 hours ago, jim5000 said:

Fofana and Vardy back next season, KDH in for Tielemans, just need a replacement for Evans and we’ll be pushing for CL places again next season.

We'll be nowhere near top 4 next season sadly.

[Leicester_Loyal]

26 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Why do posters continually go on about what Liverpool or Celtic fans say about Rodgers, if we all listened to 'ex's' none of us will have partners or go on to be married.

If 3 'exs' say a bloke is an abuser who battered them, then you should probably listen

[BKLFox]

5 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

If 3 'exs' say a bloke is an abuser who battered them, then you should probably listen

touche but you get the premise that most breakup's don't end up with nice words being spoken by 1 or both parties.

[smudgerfox]

56 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Just for a minute put the first two full seasons to one side 

I think the first two full seasons are as revealing about BR’s shortcomings as this season. 2019/20 we missed CL by four points. Then consider this - we lost 1-0 to Norwich (relegated) , 4-1 to Bournemouth (relegated)  after being ahead and after conceding two goals and having a player sent off in the space of two minutes, gave up a 90th minute lead on Watford (relegated) to a 93rd minute equaliser by Craig Dawson from a corner. Any of that sound familiar? Oh and an injury time defeat to Villa in the League Cup semi final.

 

Never mind let’s try again in 2020/21. This time we’re one point short of Champions League. So let’s look at where we went wrong this time. A 2-0 defeat to Fulham (relegated) a 4-2 capitulation to Newcastle (Evans pulled out of team shortly before ko) 2-0 down on 34 mins, 3-2 defeat to West Ham 3-0 down after 48 mins, 2-4 defeat by Spurs despite being 2-1 up with 15 minutes to go. 

 

Yes we won the FA Cup but let us also acknowledge that leant heavily on the goals of Ihenacho (4) who Rodgers clearly doesn’t rate. (it’s that system thing again)

 

So what we have is two failures to qualify for CL despite occupying a CL position for most of both seasons. A complete failure to close the deal achieved through a mixture of capitulation at either end of games, tactical ineptitude, defensive naivety and injury mismanagement. Games surrendered by half time or given away late or in periods of full-scale implosion. 

 

CL qualification on two successive seasons would have transformed this club. In terms of its finances (at least £50-million I reckon) and in terms of its profile and the calibre of player we could bring in. It was in our grasp but we let it go - twice…

 

All of a piece with how Liverpool failed to win the league despite scoring 100 goals in the season, all of a piece with us being 4-0 down to Man City after 20 minutes, These are the issues BR needs to urgently address…

Edited 18 February 2022 by smudgerfox

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

I think the first two full seasons are as revealing about BR’s shortcomings as this season. 2019/20 we missed CL by four points. Then consider this - we lost 1-0 to Norwich (relegated) , 4-1 to Bournemouth (relegated)  after being ahead and after conceding two goals and having a player sent off in the space of two minutes, gave up a 90th minute lead on Watford (relegated) to a 93rd minute equaliser by Craig Dawson from a corner. Any of that sound familiar? Oh and an injury time defeat to Villa in the League Cup semi final.

 

Never mind let’s try again in 2020/21. This time we’re one point short of Champions League. So let’s look at where we went wrong this time. A 2-0 defeat to Fulham (relegated) a 4-2 capitulation to Newcastle (Evans pulled out of team shortly before ko) 2-0 down on 34 mins, 3-2 defeat to West Ham 3-0 down after 48 mins, 2-4 defeat by Spurs despite being 2-1 up with 15 minutes to go. 

 

Yes we won the FA Cup but let us also acknowledge that leant heavily on the goals of Ihenacho (4) who Rodgers clearly doesn’t rate. (it’s that system thing again)

 

So what we have is two failures to qualify for CL despite occupying a CL position for most of both seasons. A complete failure to close the deal achieved through a mixture of capitulation at either end of games, tactical ineptitude, defensive naivety and injury mismanagement. Games surrendered by half time or given away late or in periods of full-scale implosion. 

 

CL qualification on two successive seasons would have transformed this club. In terms of its finances (at least £50-million I reckon) and in terms of its profile and the calibre of player we could bring in. It was in our grasp but we let it go - twice…

 

All of a piece with how Liverpool failed to win the league despite scoring 100 goals in the season, all of a piece with us being 4-0 down to Man City after 20 minutes, These are the issues BR needs to urgently address…

We were never good enough to finish top four, hence those games you mentioned. Very few teams go through a season without picking up results like that, in fact it's usually just the top 2. Even if you look at a side like Chelsea now some of their results have been shocking this season.