Brendan Rodgers

[MalletFox]

1 minute ago, Kopic said:

At this point I'd give Keith Vaz a go.

A go at what? 👀

[Stadt]

Still soaked from watching this bunch of ****. If you didn’t want Ridgers after seeing us get battered as the cup holders to a championship side you never will.

 

Today wasn’t that bad for our recent standards but we’re still a total shambles,  2 away wins all season in the league and no clean sheets , no organisation.

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Ric his legal team would have tied up a watertight contract and remember the club spent many weeks pleading with him to sign it. It will be expensive but if Top is prepared to take the hit then he will do it.

His release clause is less than £15m, nearly all manager contracts have a dismissal clause that's only a proportion of their salary. It'll be close to his release clause/ a years wages. 

[volpeazzurro]

34 minutes ago, Blanchflower78 said:

It's a gamble for me, just trying to throw open some more perspective. May be that's for my own benefit as I too have given up on occasions.

 

2.5 seasons of really good football and achievements. This season if you asked what had changed you'd say massive injuries and poor defensively. Does one affect the other, almost certainly. 

 

So in 3 seasons of BR we have had 6 months of struggle possibly governed in the large part by injuries but we cut adrift then?

 

If someone new comes in during the summer and by Xmas we're 14th do we chop again? I have a good mate who follows Watford and he's devastated by what they've become, a managerial merry-go-round. Often on the narrative they "should be doing better" and not necessarily broken.

 

I'm not suggesting BR isn't culpable, but I'm not sure as a club we are at breaking point and a change is required to fix a sinking ship. Not yet anyway. 

I personally don't think we've had 2.5 seasons of good football and we certainly haven't had just 6 months of struggle. 

 

Yes, we've achieved 5th twice but how much of that is due to him and how much a talented squad of players despite him. If we credit him with the success, then he has to cop for the end of season failures also, we can't blame it all on injuries. 

 

Extremely poor team selections, formations/tactics and substitutions were also an issue. 

[Mike Oxlong]

Got to remember that in spite of the great escape Nige was sacked because of a failure to keep clean sheets 

[Collymore]

Got thinking when was the last time we won away and kept a clean sheet in the league and was horrified (mostly due to how long it ended up taking me) to find  out it was over 2 years a go on New Year's Day 2020 against Newcastle when we turned them over 3-0. 

 

Edit: was actually 3rd Feb 2021

 

2-0 V Fulham. 

 

Edited 20 February 2022 by Collymore

[HybridFox]

Just now, Mike Oxlong said:

Got to remember that in spite of the great escape Nige was sacked because of a failure to keep clean sheets 

Big Nige was sacked because his son was a front page scandal

[Langston]

15 minutes ago, stu said:

Where has this £10m pay off come from? Surely it’s the remainder of the contract until 2025?

 

Yeah, can't imagine our business savvy owners and board have included any performance related clauses there. 

[Rusko187]

9 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Ric his legal team would have tied up a watertight contract and remember the club spent many weeks pleading with him to sign it. It will be expensive but if Top is prepared to take the hit then he will do it.

If the club were stupid enough to offer a contract like it, more fool them

[Flappit]

The horror show of recruitment if Rodgers is kept on... We'll be swamped with mediocrity like Lookman. If we're lucky. More Vestergaards and Bertrands if we're not. 

 

I don't understand how people think this is only a recent thing, ffs. It's been falling off a cliff for a year and we still haven't hit bottom in a bloody, mangled wreck. We're sleepwalking into the relegation zone with our current trajectory and many of those teams are improving fast.

[Flappit]

3 minutes ago, TK95 said:

Big Nige was sacked because his son was a front page scandal

Whoosh! Went the joke over TK95's head. 

[Ric Flair]

4 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Got thinking when was the last time we won away and kept a clean sheet in the league and was horrified (mostly due to how long it ended up taking me) to find  out it was over 2 years a go on New Year's Day 2020 against Newcastle when we turned them over 3-0. 

 

Arsenal 1-0, Spurs 2-0? 

[HybridFox]

3 minutes ago, Flappit said:

Whoosh! Went the joke over TK95's head. 

This is what watching Leicester does to you 

[Collymore]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Arsenal 1-0, Spurs 2-0? 

Ahhh bugger. I some how skipped through a year without realising. 

 

It was the 3rd Feb 2021 2-0 V Fulham so just over a year a go. 

Edited 20 February 2022 by Collymore

[Stuntman_Mike]

19 minutes ago, Kopic said:

At this point I'd give Keith Vaz a go.

Edited 20 February 2022 by Stuntman_Mike

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Ahhh bugger. I some how skipped through a year without realising. 

 

It was the 3rd Feb 2021 2-0 V Fulham so just over a year a go. 

I wish we could have

[Tuna]

26 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Has anyone ever done it? I know Brendan likes to remind people at every opportunity his Liverpool side of 2013/14 scored over 100 goals in a season but would he be quite as passionate about the reverse? Let's see where the pigs bitten you Brendan

Most goals conceded by a team who stayed up in the Premier League (since it went to 20 teams) was Wigan Athletic in 2009/10, with 79 goals conceded (this was the season they lost 9-1 to Spurs and also 8-0 to Chelsea), finishing in 16th place.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, Tuna said:

Most goals conceded by a team who stayed up in the Premier League (since it went to 20 teams) was Wigan Athletic in 2009/10, with 79 goals conceded (this was the season they lost 9-1 to Spurs and also 8-0 to Chelsea), finishing in 16th place.

To be fair our 65 is across 4/5 competitions but it's still hideous!!

[Oxfordfox83]

21 minutes ago, Blanchflower78 said:

I agree both endings to the season were hugely frustrating. We're not perennial achievers and lacked the nouse to see it through. I think most fans recognised the 5th place finishes as still very impressive whilst tinged with regret of not being able to make it a top 4 one. 

 

We also operate in a league whereby others around us suffer, respond and it's unlikely that Leicester City will be a top 6 Premier league force on an annual basis.  I respect BR for elevating us to that end of the table and for believing we can compete. But I also recognise it comes with no guarantees, Spurs and Arsenal galvanised, West Ham are having their "lesta" moment currently. You can't expect everything to remain the same and bumps in the road appear.

 

8-10 clubs start the season with aspirations of finishing in the top 6, not all can achieve that.  Should as a Leicester City supporter we expect top 6 no question come rain or shine and if not we bin. Do we want to be a Club who ignores the pressures of its injuries and how that has affected its current season?

 

If the next guy who comes in is struggling at Xmas will folk be looking back thinking BR with players back would have this lot performing far better? 

 

Like I say, for me a change should only come about if you think the club is in in severe danger, players have stopped playing for the manager or league position almost beyond saving. I dont think any of these apply and frustration is the biggest issue currently surround the club. 

These would all be valid arguments if we didn’t look so utterly and repeatedly clueless. 
 

The losing itself isn’t important. It’s the manner, over and over again, of poor defending, especially at set pieces. For over a year. It’s inept substitutions. It’s players coming back from long term injury, playing three games in a week and going off with long term injuries. 
 

I’m not entitled. I wasn’t Nige out when we hit that horror run in 14/15 because we actually looked decent a lot of the time. I’m not Rodgers out for losing matches or for being mid table. I’m Rodgers out because we lose the same way over and over again, got schooled by Forest, missed UCL twice, and as a direct consequence have lost Tielemans and will probably lose more.

 

We weren’t bad today. But tell me you weren’t terrified every time we conceded a corner, and have been forever. It’s not improving. It hasn’t improved for ages. 
 

Brendan out.

[surrifox]

1 hour ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

It’s very worrying that managers of Hughes’ calibre are being talked about. Speaks volumes about how much Rodgers is dragging us in the mud this season. 

Well it rather speaks volumes about how simple minded some “fans” of the club are 

[Stadt]

1 league win in 7 games  

[Langston]

32 minutes ago, Oxfordfox83 said:

I’m Rodgers out because we lose the same way over and over again, got schooled by Forest, missed UCL twice, and as a direct consequence have lost Tielemans and will probably lose more..

 

I want Rodgers out but there is *nobody* in this squad that could justifiably want the move that Youri is likely to get, and even he's been on/off for the best part of half a year. I'm not worried about losing anyone else as it stands.

[Langston]

9 minutes ago, Stadt said:

1 league win in 7 games  

Least we've overachieved last couple of seasons, ey!*

 

*When we absolutely had a perfect blend of players + other club's mismanagement to finish in the top 4, twice.

[Oxfordfox83]

1 minute ago, Langston said:

 

I want Rodgers out but there is *nobody* in this squad that could justifiably want the move that Youri is likely to get, and even he's been on/off for the best part of half a year. I'm not worried about losing anyone else as it stands.

Ndidi’s out of form but will come back. Kel won’t hang around to be 3rd choice in a mid-table side. Barnes and Maddison will have offers, or will have agents whispering. Ricardo’s getting back to his best. Fofana’s one of the best in the league if he can get fit without Rodgers wrecking him again.

 

Not that they *will* leave, but if an offer comes in in summer, there’s a lot less to keep them at a mid-table club than a team in Europe.

[Langston]

 

21 minutes ago, Oxfordfox83 said:

Ndidi’s out of form but will come back. Kel won’t hang around to be 3rd choice in a mid-table side. Barnes and Maddison will have offers, or will have agents whispering. Ricardo’s getting back to his best. Fofana’s one of the best in the league if he can get fit without Rodgers wrecking him again.

 

Not that they *will* leave, but if an offer comes in in summer, there’s a lot less to keep them at a mid-table club than a team in Europe.

 

Point proven then? Wilf is brilliant but he's been crap this season, all told. Can't see many elite sides taking a punt for what we'd want and the contract he's on. Same with Barnes, same with Maddison (injury niggles). Ricardo has literally just signed a deal until 2026 that won't be bettered elsewhere unless he shows a sustained period of consistency. 

 

Fofana's ceiling is incredibly high, but even then he needs a good season of showing that that horrid injury hasn't slowed him down. None of the guys you've mentioned could justifiably warrant a move to a Gazprom club at the moment. They're going nowhere.