Dahnsouff Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 1 minute ago, AjcW said: There's about £30m difference in prize money between 8th and around 14th/15th..... That is utterly unreasonable amount of pressure on his replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 28 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Did you only read the first part? A lot of people at the minute are clutching at all sorts of straws for that hit of copium. I admire a lot of peoples determination to be optimistic and look for the positives but that list of positives is getting smaller and ever more desperate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: That is utterly unreasonable amount of pressure on his replacement Thing is the league is so toilet it would only take a small new manager bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 2 minutes ago, AjcW said: Thing is the league is so toilet it would only take a small new manager bounce That's it - new manager bounce is not a myth, it's a real thing. I suppose there's a universe where the board decides they have a chance to recoup the compensation they'd lose by pipping a couple places in the table. A gamble to be sure, and one I'm not sure they'd be wiling to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 Just now, Deeg67 said: That's it - new manager bounce is not a myth, it's a real thing. Unless you're Everton of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim5000 Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 Any replacement still has to come in and manage a back line that is decimated by injuries. The only way to do this is to turn us into a Stoke style team, or Allerdyce etc. - Low back line, midfield protecting first and foremost, defensive approach which suits likes of Amartey and Vestergaard as all they have to do is defend and hoof the ball forward. Any manager that did that to us would be hounded out in short order by the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 4 minutes ago, Dames said: A lot of people at the minute are clutching at all sorts of straws for that hit of copium. I admire a lot of peoples determination to be optimistic and look for the positives but that list of positives is getting smaller and ever more desperate. Strangely, the reasons for optimism scale shows a direct correlation to the scale of expectations for a new manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmono84 Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 I think new manager bounce only really works if it’s clear the players have given up. It could have the reverse effect on this group because they seem to be trying their hardest for BR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 13 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Any replacement still has to come in and manage a back line that is decimated by injuries. The only way to do this is to turn us into a Stoke style team, or Allerdyce etc. - Low back line, midfield protecting first and foremost, defensive approach which suits likes of Amartey and Vestergaard as all they have to do is defend and hoof the ball forward. Any manager that did that to us would be hounded out in short order by the fans Exactly what we may need to get a result at the min. Brendan is too much of a snob to dare go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 It seems to me whatever happens from now on, hopefully with injured players returning,the issue of BR's future irrespective of where we eventually up will not go away. We're constantly told to "get behind" the Club and the players but others prefer another agenda and won't be happy until this manager has gone and the next one and probably the next one after that. If the "get behind" the Club mantra is relevant then there is no better time to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 21 February 2022 Author Share Posted 21 February 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: That's it - new manager bounce is not a myth, it's a real thing. I suppose there's a universe where the board decides they have a chance to recoup the compensation they'd lose by pipping a couple places in the table. A gamble to be sure, and one I'm not sure they'd be wiling to make. Yes it is. Everton, WBA and Sunderland are the most notable clubs this season who have changed without success. That's without mentioning plenty of smaller football league clubs including Barnsley, Doncaster and Scunthorpe who haven't improved. For every manager that comes in and does well there's also those that don't. Edited 21 February 2022 by Fox92 same club twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 I’m never one to want a manager out and always think players and managers should be given time. However I think we do need a change. I just can’t quite see him trying it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 17 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Any replacement still has to come in and manage a back line that is decimated by injuries. The only way to do this is to turn us into a Stoke style team, or Allerdyce etc. - Low back line, midfield protecting first and foremost, defensive approach which suits likes of Amartey and Vestergaard as all they have to do is defend and hoof the ball forward. Any manager that did that to us would be hounded out in short order by the fans If that’s what it takes to survive the rest of the season then so be it, as long as something is done to address that in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 1 hour ago, escape2victory said: I might be in the minority here but I’m quite optimistic for the rest of the season, players like Barnes, Lookman, Maddison, KDH and Ricardo are all finding form, plus in the coming weeks the return of Vardy and Fofana, and our remaining home games are Leeds, Norwich, Brentford, Villa, Everton, Palace and Southampton……surely we will win a fair few of them and carry on being battered away from home ! On the other hand, if we fare well below expectations in those games then we will be in a relegation position and with some horrendous away games to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 2 hours ago, Koke said: I want Rodgers moved on but I'll always respect him and hold him in the highest regard. Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 5 minutes ago, jmono84 said: I think new manager bounce only really works if it’s clear the players have given up. It could have the reverse effect on this group because they seem to be trying their hardest for BR. There is no evidence that I know that Rodgers and the players have fallen out. I think there are plenty of questions about his tactics , but they are all highly trained footballers and probably have their own ideas on how we should play. That's the thing about the Championship team , they all sang from the same songsheet and had real focus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 I would hope that the board have a better plan than sacking Rodgers in the hope of a short term bounce to finish ninth rather than twelfth. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filbertway Posted 21 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 21 February 2022 Still out for me, I don't trust him and his mates to effectively steer the club forwards. He makes too many weird decisions. He wants too much power, we developed a really good way of working and off the pitch I'd say we were probably the envy of any team outside of the very best. We're losing those marginal gains as Rodgers seeks to gain more control over everything. When things are going well and he's not feeling any pressure then the football is often excellent. As soon as there is any pressure though, he out thinks himself and his team starts looking confused and disjointed. I feel like atm he's feeling very little pressure, he seems totally at peace since his little outburst at Forest. The football has been braver and we looks like a team that's playing with his tactical shackles taken off. I think this will always be a shortfall of his and it's why he'll probably struggle to have any real sustained success anywhere. I think off the pitch he is setting the club backwards with his insistence on having his mates/yes men around him. When there's any pressure on a situation he often comes out as the loser due to him over thinking things and losing faith in football that got him into that position in the first place. If we could keep continually microdosing him with a drug that removes any feelings of pressure then we could be onto something. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 21 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 21 February 2022 3 minutes ago, Simoken said: Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. What a crap comment. Who do you think you are to say that? People are entitled to different opinions. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 9 minutes ago, Simoken said: Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. Last sentence is a bit harsh, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerleeds Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 7 minutes ago, Simoken said: Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. "The mans just won you a trophy". Yet 10 months on, where are we? It's that kind of attitude which would have had Ranieri take us down. Facts are he failed to get us top 4 twice in a row whilst in ridiculously strong positions and now we're languishing in the bottom half of the table. Thankfully our owners have more ambition than this and he'll likely be gone by the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 6 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: What a crap comment. Who do you think you are to say that? People are entitled to different opinions. So am i... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 10 minutes ago, Simoken said: Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_6 Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 No League win in 2022. The pressure is mounting. It's a results business and we're letting in too many goals and losing too many games. We played well last night but we're wasteful in front of goal, and that tells you our confidence is low. Perhaps holding our nerve until the end of the season is the right thing to do. And unless we do get dragged further down the table, I think the club will persevere with him. But at the end of the season, I hope we show Rodgers the door and start a new chapter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 February 2022 Share Posted 21 February 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Simoken said: Dont think he would respect that comment though. The mans just won you a trophy and made LCFC into top 4 potentials. One bad half of a season with essential squad players injured and you want him gone. I want you gone as a fan more like. We’re not ‘Top 4 potentials’ though We’re more likely to get relegated this season more than we are to make Top 6, Nevermind Top 4 Why aren’t people dealing with the here and now rather than what’s gone on in the past? Lets flip this the other way round; Imagine in the last two seasons under Rodgers we had been as shite as this season. But this season we were absolutely flying… Would people want him sacked because of what had gone on two seasons prior? Or would you be buzzing with the current season and be willing to put all that’s gone before behind you? Edited 21 February 2022 by The Year Of The Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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