Popular Post BenTheFox Posted 24 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 24 February 2022 I'm going to keep it simple. If the owners of the club think that we are in danger of getting relegated and they think that changing the manager will get us put of trouble then that is exactly what they will do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 36 minutes ago, Tanya said: It was an awful performance but you don't sack a manager after we have easily won a tie. Come on now. Stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropstonfox Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 18 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I'm going to keep it simple. If the owners of the club think that we are in danger of getting relegated and they think that changing the manager will get us put of trouble then that is exactly what they will do. Better change him then ...after we lose at Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcben76 Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 Love Brendan biggest game of the season we won 3-1 (7-2) on aggregate but we played our best players. If we finish 17th but win this thing who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 6 hours ago, Muzzy_Larsson said: Not a Rodgers bashing post but here are lists of all his signings from his last four clubs for anyone wanting to deep dive into his recruitment and make their own mind up. The point in this post I guess is to use the evidence thus far to make your mind up as to whether or not you'd back him in the transfer market to undertake the rebuild that is undoubtedly coming. Here is a breakdown of his signings at each of his previous clubs. I have left out Reading and Watford and all fees are from transfermrkt. For clarity 'Sales from Rodgers signings' include sales that were made of players he signed even after he'd left the respective club as manager. 'Transfer fees received' are money he brought in from sales in his time as manager at the respective club, whether the players he sold were his signings or not. I have marked asterixes (*) next to those signings have made long term, decent contributions at the respective clubs and who could have been considered a relative success. I've omitted Swansea from this analysis though as my knowledge isn't deep enough there. Swansea Transfer fees spent: £12.47m Transfer fees received: £410k Net Spend: £12.06m Sales from Rodgers signings: £34.7m Scott Sinclair - £540k Leon Britton - £45k Danny Graham - £3.51m Wayne Routledge - £2.93m Leroy Lita - £1.80m Michel Vorm - FC Utrecht - £1.53m Jose Moreira - £765k Darnel Situ - £275k Curtis Obeng - £216k Rory Donnelly - £113k Luke Moore - Free Neil Taylor - Free Ryan Harley - Free Scott Donnelly - Free Gerhard Tremmel - Free Fede Bassone - Free Gylfi Sigurdsson - Loan (Fee was £450k) Tamas Priskin - Loan (Fee was £302k) Fabio Borini - Loan Jermaine Easter - Loan Marvin Emnes - Loan Frank Nouble - Loan Steven Caulker - Loan Josh McEachran - Loan Liverpool Transfer fees spent: £296.55m Transfer fees received: £118.59m Net Spend: £177.96m Sales from Rodgers signings: £265.95m Fabio Borini - £10.4m Joe Allen - £15m* Oussama Assaidi - £3m Samed Yesil - £1m Daniel Sturridge - £12m* Phillipe Coutinho - £8.5m* Luis Alberto - £6.8m Iago Aspas - £7.0m Simon Mignolet - £9.0m* Mamadou Sakho - £15.0m* Tiago Llori - £3.5m Rickie Lambert - £4.5m Adam Lallana - £25.0m* Emre Can - £9.75m* Lazar Markovic - £19.8m Dejan Lovren - £20.0m* Divock Origi - £9.8m* Alberto Moreno - £12m Mario Balotelli - £16m Joe Gomez - £6m* Danny Ings - £8m Nathaniel Clyne - £12m* Roberto Firmino - £29.0m* Christian Benteke - £32.5m James Milner - Free* Adam Bogdan - Free Kolo Toure - Free* Kevin Stewart - Free Nuri Sahin - Loan Aly Cissokho - Loan Victor Moses - Loan Javier Manquillo - Loan Celtic Transfer fees spent: £31.76m Transfer fees received: £29.35m Net Spend: £2.41m Sales from Rodgers signings: £17.01m (Bulk of this was the Edouard sale from this summer after he left) * I've not included Moussa Dembele as a Rodgers signing or as a 'Sale from Rodgers signing' as this deal was agreed prior to his arrival Scott Sinclair - £3.69m* Eboue Kouassi - £3.15m Cristian Gamboa - £1.0m Olivier Ntcham - £4.5m* Charly Musonda - Loan (Fee was £2.25m) Jack Hendry - £1.44m Johnny Hayes - £1.32m Marven Compper - £1.03m Lewis Morgan - £300k Odsonne Edouard - £9.27m* Vakoun Bayo - £2.01m Maryan Shved - £1.80m Kolo Toure - Free Dorus De Vries - Free Scott Bain - Free* Youssouf Mulumbu - Free Manny Perez - Free Andrew Gutman - Free Emillio Izzaguire - Free Kundai Benyu - Free Patrick Roberts - Loan* Filip Benkovic - Loan* Daniel Arzani - Loan Jeremy Toljan - Loan Timothy Weah - Loan Oliver Burke - Loan Leicester Transfer fees spent: £208.8m Transfer fees received: £130.75m Net Spend: £78.05m Sales from Rodgers signings: £0m Youri Tielemens - £40.5m* Ayoze Perez - £31.5m Dennis Praet - £17.28m James Justin - £6.03m* Wesley Fofana - £31.5m* Timothy Castagne - £18.0m* Patson Daka - £27.0m Boubakary Soumare - £18.0m Jannik Vestergaard - £15.84m Ryan Bertrand - Free Cenguz Under - Loan (Fee was £3.15m) Ryan Bennett - Loan Ademola Lookman - Loan Daka, Soumare and Lookman are not long in the door and aren't bad signings it's just too early to consider them a success or failure yet imo. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 2 minutes ago, lcfcben76 said: Love Brendan biggest game of the season we won 3-1 (7-2) on aggregate but we played our best players. If we finish 17th but win this thing who cares Me. Winning a European trophy would be a dream. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravel Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 28 minutes ago, lcfcben76 said: Love Brendan biggest game of the season we won 3-1 (7-2) on aggregate but we played our best players. If we finish 17th but win this thing who cares If we win this but finish 18th then it kinda loses its shine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 He won't be judged on the Europa Conference, especially after a comfortable victory. It's the League that is the only important thing for the owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 24 February 2022 Share Posted 24 February 2022 27 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: Me. Winning a European trophy would be a dream. not worth being in a relegation fight and just surviving to win this thing imo. seems like torture for the rest of the season and to finish so close to relegation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 24 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 24 February 2022 They had 26 shots, just let that sink in and yet our manager was happier tonight than when we were 3-0 up at half time vs West Brom last April. We're what Tyson Fury would refer to as a bum. 7 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinslowFox Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 Is he still here? Ffs back into the dark I go. Wake me up when he's gone please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 4 hours ago, Bourbon Fox said: Problem is, if we'd put in that performance against league opposition we'd have been 3-1 down by the half hour Football doesn't Work like that..It isnt so obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 29 minutes ago, WinslowFox said: Is he still here? Ffs back into the dark I go. Wake me up when he's gone please. Wufta...!!! Stand up & be counted...like a a True loyal traditional Supporter would..We Dont Need plastics who only come out on Sunny days... Take the pain.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 3 hours ago, Corky said: He won't be judged on the Europa Conference, especially after a comfortable victory. It's the League that is the only important thing for the owners. They have been officially reportingly to have mentioned their Intention for Europe, it then logically & automatically intails Top 6 League finishes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Fox Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Football doesn't Work like that..It isnt so obvious... It is obvious that we were lucky not to concede a hatful last night, and that performance was obviously not going to stand up to better opposition. I get that speculation has its limits, my point is that the quality of our recent performances isn't up to the mark for a team with our ambitions and potential. Last night did not fill me with confidence for the next few league fixtures. Edited 25 February 2022 by Bourbon Fox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpenden Fox Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 4 league games to come before an international break in three weeks time. Burnley - A, Leeds - H, Arsenal - A, Brentford - H. If I were making a judgement call, I would set the bar at 7 points. Draw with Burnley, lose to Arsenal, and two home wins against fellow bottom half teams, both of whom are in poor form. If we achieve significantly lower than that number of points (which I fear may well be the case) it may well be time to make a decision, not necessarily because there is anyone better out there, but because we will need a new voice to change our direction of travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 14 hours ago, lcfcben76 said: Love Brendan biggest game of the season we won 3-1 (7-2) on aggregate but we played our best players. If we finish 17th but win this thing who cares We really should all care 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 1 hour ago, Harpenden Fox said: 4 league games to come before an international break in three weeks time. Burnley - A, Leeds - H, Arsenal - A, Brentford - H. If I were making a judgement call, I would set the bar at 7 points. Draw with Burnley, lose to Arsenal, and two home wins against fellow bottom half teams, both of whom are in poor form. If we achieve significantly lower than that number of points (which I fear may well be the case) it may well be time to make a decision, not necessarily because there is anyone better out there, but because we will need a new voice to change our direction of travel. why would you be happy with a draw against Burnley, who are lower than Brentford and Leeds, that you expect us to get a win against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue ROI Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Beachyboy said: Brendan's eyes in that interview, he knows he's gone, it's just a case of when and saving face, I don't think he will survive until the summer, Puel went in game 27 after losing by a goal to Wolves in Game 23, I think Brendan will go in game 27 after Loss to Burnley, Win v Leeds, Lose Arsenal, Lose Brentford. Claude was gone after the 4-1 loss at home to Crystal Palace. About 3-4 weeks after that Wolves game. Now that you mention it it was almost this time 3 years ago. Edited 25 February 2022 by Blue ROI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpenden Fox Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 26 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: why would you be happy with a draw against Burnley, who are lower than Brentford and Leeds, that you expect us to get a win against? Because Burnley are in better form than Brentford and Leeds, and we are playing them away from home. And I didn't say I'd be happy, or that I expect a win. I'm just trying to set a benchmark for what might be a reasonable expectation for us to judge whether can alter our current direction of travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 19 hours ago, Ric Flair said: They had 26 shots, just let that sink in and yet our manager was happier tonight than when we were 3-0 up at half time vs West Brom last April. We're what Tyson Fury would refer to as a bum. Ric, the tie was done. Our defence won't stand up against most sides in this competition now but I think people are reading too much into last night. Any real drama and tension was ended by Barnes goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 9 minutes ago, Corky said: Ric, the tie was done. Our defence won't stand up against most sides in this competition now but I think people are reading too much into last night. Any real drama and tension was ended by Barnes goal. I hope that's what led to it mate, but given what we've witnessed against the likes of Millwall, Legia, Spartak, Forest etc it doesn't really matter what the quality of the opposition is, we are more than capable of letting them run a fcukin muck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 7 hours ago, Harpenden Fox said: Because Burnley are in better form than Brentford and Leeds, and we are playing them away from home. And I didn't say I'd be happy, or that I expect a win. I'm just trying to set a benchmark for what might be a reasonable expectation for us to judge whether can alter our current direction of travel. Add to that - Burnley are such a big, tough side that play with a style to suit, and they have a new CF who appears to be more of a brute than Wood, fitting their style completely. They're the last kind of side our frail team want to be playing at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 25 February 2022 Share Posted 25 February 2022 Make no mistake had Randers had the quality they would and could have scored 5 or 6, whilst we won and on paper it looked comfortable, in reality it was an embarrassment we conceded 26 chances 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgerfox Posted 26 February 2022 Share Posted 26 February 2022 7 hours ago, Corky said: Ric, the tie was done. Our defence won't stand up against most sides in this competition now but I think people are reading too much into last night. Any real drama and tension was ended by Barnes goal. The tie was done and therefore a chance to practice calm, disciplined tight defending in a competitive match situation. Closing a game out without conceding lots of chances by keeping the opposition - however poor - at arms length, keeping the play away from our area. I’d have settled for that but it isn’t what we got. Alternatively a chance to give some squad players a chance to shine;Hamza; Perez;Ward. We didn’t do that either. What we did was go practically full strength and demonstrate to the footballing world why we are currently a laughing stock. And let me tell you, no-one but no-one will be laughing more than Sean Dyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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