Brendan Rodgers

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

Saw a stat last week that if we wouldnt have conceeded any goals in the last ten minutes in any game this season, we'd be in the top 4

 

The issue we have is down to game management this season, nothing else

I wonder how true this stat is of other teams ? 
 

Overall	0-10	11-20	21-30	31-40	41-50	51-60	61-70	71-80	81-90		1st H.	2nd H.
Arsenal	7-2	6-5	10-3	4-4	6-5	8-5	5-4	1-8	9-6		31-18	25-24
Aston Villa	2-8	5-2	3-4	4-4	7-7	4-2	8-6	3-5	11-9		19-23	28-24
Brentford	1-5	5-6	5-3	3-9	3-8	7-3	4-7	4-8	12-3		15-27	29-25
Brighton	3-3	1-5	3-6	2-3	8-5	4-6	3-7	3-1	11-6		15-21	23-21
Burnley	2-7	5-4	2-3	6-8	4-5	4-4	3-5	2-5	4-8		16-25	16-24
Chelsea	4-1	7-1	8-4	6-1	12-5	12-6	5-4	3-3	13-6		31-9	39-22
Crystal Palace	5-4	3-3	1-4	4-11	6-5	5-1	7-3	5-3	10-8		18-25	28-17
Everton	3-3	1-8	5-4	2-4	5-8	5-7	6-6	6-8	4-8		13-25	24-31
Leeds Utd	2-6	4-6	5-10	2-5	4-10	5-11	4-9	4-7	9-10		16-33	23-41
Leicester City	2-6	6-7	3-9	8-5	7-2	5-5	6-7	4-4	8-11		24-28	25-28
Liverpool	8-3	8-1	9-2	11-2	8-4	7-3	13-4	9-2	14-2		41-11	46-12
Manchester City	11-3	8-1	9-2	10-1	7-2	7-5	16-1	4-2	17-4		42-7	47-14
Manchester Utd	4-6	3-3	4-6	7-5	6-9	7-8	10-6	8-3	8-10		22-24	35-32
Newcastle Utd	5-1	2-8	2-6	10-5	7-5	4-7	3-10	4-6	3-13		24-24	16-37
Norwich City	4-9	2-5	1-4	1-7	3-9	3-8	1-12	3-8	4-13		10-32	12-43
Southampton	7-7	1-7	6-7	5-6	8-8	3-10	4-6	2-3	5-7		23-31	18-30
Tottenham	6-2	7-3	5-4	6-7	7-3	8-2	6-3	8-6	7-10		28-17	32-23
Watford	3-6	5-7	4-9	1-6	3-9	1-7	3-5	6-4	6-17		16-34	16-36
West Ham Utd	4-5	2-2	7-3	7-7	5-6	7-6	9-5	7-0	9-12		24-21	33-25
Wolverhampton	5-1	4-1	3-2	3-2	4-5	3-3	2-8	4-4	7-8		17-10	18-24
'41-50' and '81-90' also include added time

Edited 9 May 2022 by st albans fox

[PAPA LAZAROU]

57 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Fans were leaving early during the title season so I don't think this is any different to any other game or any other season. 

The club encourage the early leaving with all the tvs on the concourse showing the match. Most early leavers congregate around the tv's watching the last five minutes or so. Then when the whistles goes they have a head start leaving the ground. Turn off the TV's and there won't be half as many early leavers. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

22 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

The club encourage the early leaving with all the tvs on the concourse showing the match. Most early leavers congregate around the tv's watching the last five minutes or so. Then when the whistles goes they have a head start leaving the ground. Turn off the TV's and there won't be half as many early leavers. 

Spoilsport 🙄

[DJ Barry Hammond]

58 minutes ago, MrSpaM said:

Saw a stat last week that if we wouldnt have conceeded any goals in the last ten minutes in any game this season, we'd be in the top 4

 

The issue we have is down to game management this season, nothing else

Add in not conceding from corners and we’re winning the league 😂

[Scotch]

1 hour ago, charly said:

Does everyone think we've conceded far too many goals in the final minutes of normal time or in injury time (or in the first few minutes of a match, but that's a different matter)? Yes, we have haven't we. Isn't that part of game management and Rogers responsibility - ie don't concede towards the end when you have little time to respond?  Ruin and spoil  the game as a spectacle if necessary, fans won't care, just don't concede. When is he going to sort this out!!!

Another question that issue raises ( and I asked this yesterday) is, why is it always so tight going into the last 10 minutes. Conceding wouldn't be an issue if we were 2 up but there always seems to be just 1 goal in it at rhe most. 

 

I genuinely don't remember the last time we had a comfortable lead going into the closing stages. 

[99.1% BLUE]

3 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Mathematically, yes. But we won't - even if we pick up 0 more points. We'd need Burnley (Spurs, Villa, Newcastle) AND Leeds (Chelsea, Brighton, Brentford) to win all of their games or win 2 by a handsome margin and draw one. We'd additionally need Everton to get 7 points from Watford, Brentford, Palace and Arsenal. And for Southampton to win either the game against us or Liverpool. Fivethirtyeight aren't even putting a probability against us - our season is done.

 

Few ironic chants of "we are staying up" at the start of the game?

Nice one. Very well put! Thanks. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 hour ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

Spoilsport 🙄

ps include me in the early leaver tv watchers head start brigade.

[Guest StevieLynex]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

I wonder how true this stat is of other teams ? 
 

Overall	0-10	11-20	21-30	31-40	41-50	51-60	61-70	71-80	81-90		1st H.	2nd H.
Arsenal	7-2	6-5	10-3	4-4	6-5	8-5	5-4	1-8	9-6		31-18	25-24
Aston Villa	2-8	5-2	3-4	4-4	7-7	4-2	8-6	3-5	11-9		19-23	28-24
Brentford	1-5	5-6	5-3	3-9	3-8	7-3	4-7	4-8	12-3		15-27	29-25
Brighton	3-3	1-5	3-6	2-3	8-5	4-6	3-7	3-1	11-6		15-21	23-21
Burnley	2-7	5-4	2-3	6-8	4-5	4-4	3-5	2-5	4-8		16-25	16-24
Chelsea	4-1	7-1	8-4	6-1	12-5	12-6	5-4	3-3	13-6		31-9	39-22
Crystal Palace	5-4	3-3	1-4	4-11	6-5	5-1	7-3	5-3	10-8		18-25	28-17
Everton	3-3	1-8	5-4	2-4	5-8	5-7	6-6	6-8	4-8		13-25	24-31
Leeds Utd	2-6	4-6	5-10	2-5	4-10	5-11	4-9	4-7	9-10		16-33	23-41
Leicester City	2-6	6-7	3-9	8-5	7-2	5-5	6-7	4-4	8-11		24-28	25-28
Liverpool	8-3	8-1	9-2	11-2	8-4	7-3	13-4	9-2	14-2		41-11	46-12
Manchester City	11-3	8-1	9-2	10-1	7-2	7-5	16-1	4-2	17-4		42-7	47-14
Manchester Utd	4-6	3-3	4-6	7-5	6-9	7-8	10-6	8-3	8-10		22-24	35-32
Newcastle Utd	5-1	2-8	2-6	10-5	7-5	4-7	3-10	4-6	3-13		24-24	16-37
Norwich City	4-9	2-5	1-4	1-7	3-9	3-8	1-12	3-8	4-13		10-32	12-43
Southampton	7-7	1-7	6-7	5-6	8-8	3-10	4-6	2-3	5-7		23-31	18-30
Tottenham	6-2	7-3	5-4	6-7	7-3	8-2	6-3	8-6	7-10		28-17	32-23
Watford	3-6	5-7	4-9	1-6	3-9	1-7	3-5	6-4	6-17		16-34	16-36
West Ham Utd	4-5	2-2	7-3	7-7	5-6	7-6	9-5	7-0	9-12		24-21	33-25
Wolverhampton	5-1	4-1	3-2	3-2	4-5	3-3	2-8	4-4	7-8		17-10	18-24
'41-50' and '81-90' also include added time

We are not very good at tetras?

[LestaAl]

I wonder what sort of reception he will get on Wednesday?

[Chloe_77]

4 minutes ago, LestaAl said:

I wonder what sort of reception he will get on Wednesday?

Think it will depend on the team he selects. There’s no reason for us to be playing a back 3 against Norwich. There’s also no reason for him to weaken the starting XI (maybe apart from managing Evans & Fofanas minutes). 

If we continue on Wednesday with the boring unimaginative possession based football that gets us nowhere- the Stadium will turn toxic ever so quickly 

[Leicester_Loyal]

4 hours ago, Stinky said:

Why do people keep bringing budgets into this as though biggest budget means best team? Lol I'd assume teams like Ajax/Porto/Benfica and teams at that level would have smaller budgets but I wouldn't expect us to get past them over two legs. 

 

The fact that you've turned our win against Rennes into a negative shows you're willing to clutch at anything to prove a point

A bigger budget means higher expectations, obviously. You’re saying Warsaw is a hard team, they’ve been fighting relegation all season and turned us over ffs. 
 

I’ve mentioned Rennes because we got lucky, if there was VAR or the ref spotted the penalty incidents we would have likely gone out. 
 

Mate look where we are in the table, we’ve been turned over week after week on the pitch, if you’re happy with it then fair play, I hope you’re right and Rodgers is the man to turn it around, because if you’re wrong we’re going to be fighting to stay in this division next year, tens of millions of pounds down, with a new manager who won’t want half the squad. 

[Stinkenzo]

7 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

A bigger budget means higher expectations, obviously. You’re saying Warsaw is a hard team, they’ve been fighting relegation all season and turned us over ffs. 
 

I’ve mentioned Rennes because we got lucky, if there was VAR or the ref spotted the penalty incidents we would have likely gone out. 
 

Mate look where we are in the table, we’ve been turned over week after week on the pitch, if you’re happy with it then fair play, I hope you’re right and Rodgers is the man to turn it around, because if you’re wrong we’re going to be fighting to stay in this division next year, tens of millions of pounds down, with a new manager who won’t want half the squad. 

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say the Warsaw are a hard team, I said the group is as about as difficult as it could get. Of all the 4th seeds on paper, they were one of the better ones. I also said that we should be getting 6pts, 4 at a minimum over two games against them. However they've finished towards the top, if not at the top of their domestic league for a good number of years now. I'd be interested to know why they were so poor for the first half of the season, but i'd be pretty confident in saying it's not that all their players suddenly lost their abilities and they are genuine relegation battlers now...

 

And AFAIK I've not said anything about wanting Rodgers to stay. I don't really care whether he stays or goes anymore frankly, i'd be interested to see if he does stay how a season would go with a massive reset in the summer and less games next season with hopefully less injuries. But if he was sacked tomorrow i'd not really be bothered. What i'm more concerned about is that a season finishing mid-table and getting to the SF of a European competition, (ECL or not) is seen as "a catastrophic failure" as one weirdo put it yesterday. If we get a new manager what is the expectation? Because I feel some fans think our place is now in the top 7/8, but the truth is there are a number of clubs like West Ham, possibly Newcastle, Wolves, then Brighton//Palace if they get if they continue with their trajectory that aren't teams we are guaranteed to finish ahead of. We could very easily be sat here next season bang in the middle of the table, will the pitchforks be out then?

 

 

[Aus Fox]

21 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

A bigger budget means higher expectations, obviously. You’re saying Warsaw is a hard team, they’ve been fighting relegation all season and turned us over ffs. 
 

I’ve mentioned Rennes because we got lucky, if there was VAR or the ref spotted the penalty incidents we would have likely gone out. 
 

Mate look where we are in the table, we’ve been turned over week after week on the pitch, if you’re happy with it then fair play, I hope you’re right and Rodgers is the man to turn it around, because if you’re wrong we’re going to be fighting to stay in this division next year, tens of millions of pounds down, with a new manager who won’t want half the squad. 

I’m not having this, when we have had ourselves a ridiculous amount of VAR go against us. 
You say we could have gone out here, we were lucky, we had a stonewall penalty not given against Roma, which would have meant a completely different game.

I can think of about 10 decision on VAR that have gone against us this season, penalties given against us, penalties not given for us, red cards not given against us, ridiculous goals we’ve had disallowed.

I can’t think of the top of my head of a single decision VAR has given in our favour this season.

[when_you're_smiling]

2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

I can’t think of the top of my head of a single decision VAR has given in our favour this season.

Villa’s goal that got disallowed for a foul on Kasper is the only subjective VAR decision that’s gone in our favour in the entire season.

[Finn Claw II]

I think it’s a combination of quite understandable heightened expectations (Rodgers salary and recent finishes) and injuries especially to the back 4 and N’didi that have led to such an underwhelming season.

 

The amount of late goals and goals conceded from corners is so disappointing.

 

Dewsbury-Hall probably player of the season says a lot in terms of the sort of season either our ‘stars’ or the new signings have had.

 

Could Rodgers turn it around, maybe but he is supposed to be a coach that improves players and I don’t see that at present.

 

I think he has until Christmas with a fit squad and no Europe he really has no excuses.

 

 

 

[Chelmofox]

Wish he wouldn’t dress like he’s going to a funeral. 

[worthosoriginals]

6 hours ago, Lcfc82 said:

There were loads more people leaving early yesterday compared to other games this season 

Plastics. 

[CrispinLA in Texas]

6 minutes ago, jamesp26 said:

Wish he wouldn’t dress like he’s going to a funeral. 

You want him to wear  a cap like Klopp and Tuchel and wear a shiny bubble jacket with slim fit joggers🤣

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, Finn Claw II said:

I think it’s a combination of quite understandable heightened expectations (Rodgers salary and recent finishes) and injuries especially to the back 4 and N’didi that have led to such an underwhelming season.

 

The amount of late goals and goals conceded from corners is so disappointing.

 

Dewsbury-Hall probably player of the season says a lot in terms of the sort of season either our ‘stars’ or the new signings have had.

 

Could Rodgers turn it around, maybe but he is supposed to be a coach that improves players and I don’t see that at present.

 

I think he has until Christmas with a fit squad and no Europe he really has no excuses.

 

 

 

.....by then it could be too late, Millions spent on players who do not perform and the next manager cannot work with them, so he is already handicapped!!!

It will set us back a year to fully offload and bring in players that the new manager would want, and with our budget and not trading in the January window, it will take two summers to get what he wants, and by then, he could be under pressure, as he hasn't got the players that he needs to play the way he wants to play.

  If we commit to Rodgers for next season, we better not be trying to hedge our bets, but commit to him. If we are not sure that he will have us up and running by Christmas, then we need to let him go now. The consequences are too great.

[gerblod]

There comes a point where too much damage has been done to the spirit of the players for them to still wish to commit to the club. These 'clear-outs' and 'getting rid of dead wood' are cop-outs by club and coaches alike to shift responsibility on to players for poor management.

I listened to RL last night - everyone talking about a rebuild except one caller who thought Rodgers + certain players should go. Consensus was that KDH, Madders and Wes (Wilf too ?) were critical players to retain. Schmeichel was discussed - his shot-stopping ability emphasised as his major plus. It was opined by Matt Piper that Thomas should be loaned out because he wasn't getting enough playing time! I wonder, of the returning full backs, if anyone has really stamped their authority on the left-back position better than he did when he was automatic choice. 

Seems to me that everyone has been depending on the return of injured players as the salvation of the season rather than gradual reintegrations of their damaged bodies. Only Fofana has returned fit in mind and body.

Is there any guarantee that a Rodgers' 'refit' over this summer will be any less unsuccessful than last summer? Daka and Lookman apart, the influx was meaningless. Excuses were made on RL for Soumare not turning up - he was supposed to be a gradual integration. But he got a run of games in which he neither integrated or performed. Had he improved his obvious lack of 'tone' he might have become a feature of the team, but he appears to be on the verge of becoming yet one more invisible man.

The not defending corners or free-kicks has now become a 'yips' issue with all involved believing the accepted mythology that 'Leicester can't defend corners'. How is Rodgers going to magic that one away? Kolo Toure isn't doing the job he's employed to do. Maybe he needs to go in order to get someone in to exorcise the curse - maybe a Catholic priest is needed (or to watch a video of a team defending  which isn't shipping in dead ball goals!).

No - the weight of Rodgers ego is like a heavy felt blanket thrown over the team. Tielemans to go - if anyone thinks they can get £40ms worth of player out of the £15m guy currently holding down a job he doesn't have to compete for.

I sorted through some saved newspaper articles. I'd saved two City reports - the drubbings of Southampton and Man City. That's how the team can play when the force is within them. I cannot see how any number of transfers in and out can recover the élan of the squad with Rodgers remaining.

 

[Guest454545]

18 minutes ago, gerblod said:

There comes a point where too much damage has been done to the spirit of the players for them to still wish to commit to the club. These 'clear-outs' and 'getting rid of dead wood' are cop-outs by club and coaches alike to shift responsibility on to players for poor management.

I listened to RL last night - everyone talking about a rebuild except one caller who thought Rodgers + certain players should go. Consensus was that KDH, Madders and Wes (Wilf too ?) were critical players to retain. Schmeichel was discussed - his shot-stopping ability emphasised as his major plus. It was opined by Matt Piper that Thomas should be loaned out because he wasn't getting enough playing time! I wonder, of the returning full backs, if anyone has really stamped their authority on the left-back position better than he did when he was automatic choice. 

Seems to me that everyone has been depending on the return of injured players as the salvation of the season rather than gradual reintegrations of their damaged bodies. Only Fofana has returned fit in mind and body.

Is there any guarantee that a Rodgers' 'refit' over this summer will be any less unsuccessful than last summer? Daka and Lookman apart, the influx was meaningless. Excuses were made on RL for Soumare not turning up - he was supposed to be a gradual integration. But he got a run of games in which he neither integrated or performed. Had he improved his obvious lack of 'tone' he might have become a feature of the team, but he appears to be on the verge of becoming yet one more invisible man.

The not defending corners or free-kicks has now become a 'yips' issue with all involved believing the accepted mythology that 'Leicester can't defend corners'. How is Rodgers going to magic that one away? Kolo Toure isn't doing the job he's employed to do. Maybe he needs to go in order to get someone in to exorcise the curse - maybe a Catholic priest is needed (or to watch a video of a team defending  which isn't shipping in dead ball goals!).

No - the weight of Rodgers ego is like a heavy felt blanket thrown over the team. Tielemans to go - if anyone thinks they can get £40ms worth of player out of the £15m guy currently holding down a job he doesn't have to compete for.

I sorted through some saved newspaper articles. I'd saved two City reports - the drubbings of Southampton and Man City. That's how the team can play when the force is within them. I cannot see how any number of transfers in and out can recover the élan of the squad with Rodgers remaining.

 

Wasn't Rodgers responsible for those drubbings? Or is the manager only responsible for the bad stuff that happens?

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

5 hours ago, jamesp26 said:

Wish he wouldn’t dress like he’s going to a funeral. 

Our football is deathly to be fair. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

Listened to his post match interview…….wow, if that isn’t the last knockings of a manager who knows he is on borrowed time then I do t know what is. We have Fofana and Evans back  yet still blames our frailties at defending corners on the profile of players missing. He then questions the hunger and desire of the players so that has to be the XI that started, but also calls into question the ones not selected. He is losing the dressing room and comments about the aspirations  of the club when he joined isn’t going to help his relationship with the owner, directors and us fans. 
 

I honestly believe the end is nigh and it’s damage limitation for all parties, we are holding out to pay minimum compensation whilst Brendan is on full on reputation salvation mode. I think it will be a mutual consent parting of the ways.
 

Brendan can hide behind not getting the backing of the board to overhaul the squad and the club can move forward with the far safer evolution not revolution of the playing squad. 
 

Whilst the FA Cup win helped masked the disappointment of a 2nd league capitulation in a row when we threw away champions league qualification from a seemingly impossible situation, it didn’t also give him some credit going into this season, however the abject league performances, inability to get out of a relatively easy Europa league group, throwing away a 3-1 lead against a weakened Liverpool team in the Carabao Cup and then being battered against Championship Notts Forest in the defence of our FA Cup meant that the credit had long gone by January. 
 

Our progress in the European Conference League was his opportunity to save the season but he has fluffed his lines and for me we are all just waiting for the inevitable. 

[John12345]

If he got along that well with the bosses he wouldn't be communicating messages to the media in the way he does. I think he knows he is a dead man walking and is just feathering his nest, for the next job interview. Our big business owners are going to write him off. They are big businessmen and it's small change to them. Much cheaper than giving him £50 m plus to spend and the same to the next guy.

 

Rodgers should come with a health warning for anyone considering him again. Very lucky guy. 

[Diffco]

7 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Listened to his post match interview…….wow, if that isn’t the last knockings of a manager who knows he is on borrowed time then I do t know what is. We have Fofana and Evans back  yet still blames our frailties at defending corners on the profile of players missing. He then questions the hunger and desire of the players so that has to be the XI that started, but also calls into question the ones not selected. He is losing the dressing room and comments about the aspirations  of the club when he joined isn’t going to help his relationship with the owner, directors and us fans. 
 

I honestly believe the end is nigh and it’s damage limitation for all parties, we are holding out to pay minimum compensation whilst Brendan is on full on reputation salvation mode. I think it will be a mutual consent parting of the ways.
 

Brendan can hide behind not getting the backing of the board to overhaul the squad and the club can move forward with the far safer evolution not revolution of the playing squad. 
 

Whilst the FA Cup win helped masked the disappointment of a 2nd league capitulation in a row when we threw away champions league qualification from a seemingly impossible situation, it didn’t also give him some credit going into this season, however the abject league performances, inability to get out of a relatively easy Europa league group, throwing away a 3-1 lead against a weakened Liverpool team in the Carabao Cup and then being battered against Championship Notts Forest in the defence of our FA Cup meant that the credit had long gone by January. 
 

Our progress in the European Conference League was his opportunity to save the season but he has fluffed his lines and for me we are all just waiting for the inevitable. 

About as succinct as you can get