Claudio Fannieri Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 I have my reservations about Brendan, however the table does not lie and over 38 games we have finished 8th, whilst some of the football has been slow and pedestrian, in reality had we fixed the set piece issues we would only be looking up the table and therefore realistically he has earned the right to lead us into next season, the only way I see him leaving this summer is if he is approached for another job, I cannot see the club sacking him at this point. I hope the club have learnt lessons from mistakes made in recent seasons and take back control of recruitment and that when they complete the debrief and review of this season that considerable focus is placed on our injury and set piece woes. If we can get this right this pre-season and without the heavier workload of European football, there is no reason why we cannot release the shackles and go back to the high intensity style that serves us so well and really make a challenge to break back into the top 6/7 positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 (edited) I think it's too simplistic to say, "get better at defending set pieces and we'll be in Europe". Our play for most of the year was dire. xG puts us 15th in the table. There is a ton of room for improvement and we'll need it if Rodgers is too keep his job beyond next season. Edited 23 May 2022 by Phenom 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 Hes got a busy summer to rebuild. Hope he doesnt spend too much time in Dubai like most of the football crew!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 What was everyone's reactions when we dropped to about 12th or 13th, or perhaps lower through the course of the season? I'm sure there were some that said 'top half finish and we're fine' or 'if he gets in to top half by end of the season he shouldn't be sacked'? Or something along those lines...? We've done that, and somewhat comfortably? This isn't me saying Rodgers should definitively stay and I'm no 'apologist' for him - I'm just tolerant of the circumstances. I'm not staunchly Rodgers out either. Not been pleasant to watch at times knowing the inevitability of conceding from a corner or playing overly cautious football. But the optimist in me thinks we'll change tact next season if he's still here. Perhaps we will see 'shackles off' and playing more freely at times... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 7 hours ago, trabuch said: We finished 8th with a terrible list of injuries. We've got some pretty decent youth coming through. How much of a rebuild do we really need? 3-4 new players ideally but more importantly need about 8 gone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 23 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 May 2022 1 hour ago, StanSP said: What was everyone's reactions when we dropped to about 12th or 13th, or perhaps lower through the course of the season? I'm sure there were some that said 'top half finish and we're fine' or 'if he gets in to top half by end of the season he shouldn't be sacked'? Or something along those lines...? We've done that, and somewhat comfortably? This isn't me saying Rodgers should definitively stay and I'm no 'apologist' for him - I'm just tolerant of the circumstances. I'm not staunchly Rodgers out either. Not been pleasant to watch at times knowing the inevitability of conceding from a corner or playing overly cautious football. But the optimist in me thinks we'll change tact next season if he's still here. Perhaps we will see 'shackles off' and playing more freely at times... I think he should stay, but there's a fair bit of emotional scarring and baggage that it almost feels hopeless for him to maintain a harmony amongst the fans when we do hit a shit spell. He's done it twice before but he really needs us to start the season with a bang and be top 6 for the opening 10-15 games and then I think the green shoots of recovery will be there for fans to hang their hat on. We can all rationalise and say 8th is half decent, as is a semi final in Europe and reading the blurb of the season it is. But read the book and go through page after page of blood bath at set pieces and points thrown away in the final minutes and toe curling mismanagement on player conditioning and you can't get to the finale of it and swallow what the writer feeds you that it's been a solid season. Far from it but testament to the players and management for still digging in and showing there's still receptiveness to having a right good go in this league. This summer is huge. Not even the transfers but the coaching reset. Rodgers is a good coach and man manager, he needs to earn his benjamin's this pre-season. This is his art form, get in to the players heads what his football ideology is and execute it properly. At times this season we've been a cardboard cut out of it and hopefully it's hurt Rodgers enough to find that determination and humility to have a self inventory on what he needs to do to get us back to our best. First up is the pathetic inability to defend set pieces, I just cannot get my head around it. The squad is in a crisis with that and he shouldn't underestimate the power of the mental side of this, as much as getting a set piece coach in, he needs the skills of a sports therapist to help heal the horrors. I'm still not convinced Rodgers is as forward thinking in this field as others. Now everyone needs a break, the manager needs a few weeks off too. What a roller coaster, wouldn't have it any other way. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 7 hours ago, Tanya said: Also this thread gets so hot the minute we lose a game, plenty of people just waiting to stick the boot in to, objectively, one of our most successful manages ever. That's not to say I'm not apprehensive about the future. I'm not sure Brendan can turn it around. But I want him to. I am wishing him well. Some people (and not all Rodgers out people) don't want the gaffer to succeed. Well he sure makes it easy for his detractor's doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 May 2022 (edited) Rodgers should be sacked this morning for his post match interview. He was digging at the fans - yes, our 4th highest finish since 1946 (he must have done the research ready to shout it). Of course injuries, games and finances have a bearing of the finishing position - yet so too do his own mistakes in recruitment, his discarding rather then fixing players, his possession obsessed football that stifles creativity and intensity, poor set piece defending and of course his over cautious substitutions ts that transmit feat. You see Rodgers never accepts that he owns any piece of our weaknesses. His post match comments sounded like a rehearsal for a job interview as he rewrites the narrative on his time at Leicester city. The shame is that with insight in to his own flaws and by surrounding himself with people who could compensate for his own weaknesses then he could be a good manager. Has he lost the humility to learn? Oh dear, he is ambitious but he is trapped at Leicester now - his chance to leave was last summer. I honestly believe that his own personal flaws will now limit us. Edited 23 May 2022 by foxinsocks 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 3 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Possibly our best manager ever potentially - but he needs to get over himself and accept he has personal work to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanya Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 1 hour ago, PAPA LAZAROU said: Well he sure makes it easy for his detractor's doesn't he? What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Claudio Fannieri said: I have my reservations about Brendan, however the table does not lie and over 38 games we have finished 8th, whilst some of the football has been slow and pedestrian, in reality had we fixed the set piece issues we would only be looking up the table and therefore realistically he has earned the right to lead us into next season, the only way I see him leaving this summer is if he is approached for another job, I cannot see the club sacking him at this point. I hope the club have learnt lessons from mistakes made in recent seasons and take back control of recruitment and that when they complete the debrief and review of this season that considerable focus is placed on our injury and set piece woes. If we can get this right this pre-season and without the heavier workload of European football, there is no reason why we cannot release the shackles and go back to the high intensity style that serves us so well and really make a challenge to break back into the top 6/7 positions. ...you are asking the club to take away parts of his remit in order for you to feel safe with him (Rodgers) in the driving seat, does that make sense!!! Do we now ask for a refund of a part of his salary when we do that! Edited 23 May 2022 by sacreblueits442 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 What did he specifically say in his post match interview? Interesting to see if its actually worth getting worked up over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lako42 Posted 23 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 May 2022 There is a very real reason the fans can't warm to BR and it doesn't matter what he achieves imo. His constant need to slyly put the club down in all of his interviews is utterly pathetic. I'm a Leicester fan, not a Rodgers fan and I wouldn't put up with his underhand comments from anyone let alone the clubs own manager. Everything this bloke says is all about upholding his personal brand. He's an egotistical Tosser and I'll never warm to him. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 3 minutes ago, StanSP said: What did he specifically say in his post match interview? Interesting to see if its actually worth getting worked up over... He said were a bit frustrated sometimes but needed to recognize that 8th is our 4th highest finish since 1946 (he must have done the research ready to shout it). He talked about having to compete with clubs with much bigger budgets (- yet back last August we can look at our squad and it compares with many teams with large budgets). He went in to list injuries, games and finances as having a bearing of the finishing position - all true... but... He did not mention his own mistakes in recruitment, his discarding rather then fixing players, in possession obsessed football that stifles creativity and intensity, more set piece defending and of course his over cautious substitutions that transmit fear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 Just now, foxinsocks said: He said were a bit frustrated sometimes but needed to recognize that 8th is our 4th highest finish since 1946 (he must have done the research ready to shout it). He talked about having to compete with clubs with much bigger budgets (- yet back last August we can look at our squad and it compares with many teams with large budgets). He went in to list injuries, games and finances as having a bearing of the finishing position - all true... but... He did not mention his own mistakes in recruitment, his discarding rather then fixing players, in possession obsessed football that stifles creativity and intensity, more set piece defending and of course his over cautious substitutions that transmit fear. Any actual quotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 2 minutes ago, Lako42 said: There is a very real reason the fans can't warm to BR and it doesn't matter what he achieves imo. His constant need to slyly put the club down in all of his interviews is utterly pathetic. I'm a Leicester fan, not a Rodgers fan and I wouldn't put up with his underhand comments from anyone let alone the clubs own manager. Everything this bloke says is all about upholding his personal brand. He's an egotistical Tosser and I'll never warm to him. as i said above i thought the interview was a sacking offence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 1 minute ago, foxinsocks said: He said were a bit frustrated sometimes but needed to recognize that 8th is our 4th highest finish since 1946 (he must have done the research ready to shout it). He talked about having to compete with clubs with much bigger budgets (- yet back last August we can look at our squad and it compares with many teams with large budgets). He went in to list injuries, games and finances as having a bearing of the finishing position - all true... but... He did not mention his own mistakes in recruitment, his discarding rather then fixing players, in possession obsessed football that stifles creativity and intensity, more set piece defending and of course his over cautious substitutions that transmit fear. Bloody hell - andi thought i got uptight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 Just now, StanSP said: Any actual quotes? I am doing it from memory - maybe some one can find it - it was an astonishing rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 Just now, jamesp26 said: Bloody hell - andi thought i got uptight. let me get up tight for you - so you don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 5 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: I am doing it from memory - maybe some one can find it - it was an astonishing rant 'astonishing rant'. I'm doubtful but happy to wait for the quotes or video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AKCJ Posted 23 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 May 2022 6 hours ago, Foxxed said: I cannot wait for Brendan to start the rebuild using his already impressive track record of bulking up our reserves by plucking overpriced mediocre talent from all-to-willing hands. 6 hours ago, Foxxed said: Two European competitions And one FA cup Doo dahh Doo dahh 6 hours ago, Foxxed said: It’s important to note Brendan won silverware this season. I for one will always remember the day when we fielded a full strength team to exercise Manchester City’s academy players. Silverware is silverware. Strange head loss here at 4am 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 Just seen these though: And just watched it on BBC Sport site. Astonishing rant is a HUGE exaggeration. It's not even a rant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 11 minutes ago, StanSP said: 'astonishing rant'. I'm doubtful but happy to wait for the quotes or video defensive and he had pre-pepared his research... it was radio leicester - not sure if you can get it on catch up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AKCJ Posted 23 May 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 23 May 2022 4 minutes ago, StanSP said: Just seen these though: And just watched it on BBC Sport site. Astonishing rant is a HUGE exaggeration. It's not even a rant He's spot on. We'd have all taken 8th and a Europa Conference semi-final at the start of the season if we were told we'd miss Fofana, Evans, Ndidi and Vardy for months on end. Perspective is absolutely needed. It's been a reasonable season all things considered. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 23 May 2022 Share Posted 23 May 2022 2 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: defensive and he had pre-pepared his research... it was radio leicester - not sure if you can get it on catch up? Pre prepared his research? Eh? So what if he did. Is it bad to know the history of the club you manage? Even if it was Radio Leic (the above I tweeted is from that?), there'd have to be a massive change in tone and attitude in the interview from what I've read/heard for it to become an astonishing rant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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