BKLFox Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 5 minutes ago, Stadt said: That’s a great anecdote, where was it from? The Athletic - Rob T goes through the players he signed & most have a good story behind them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 7 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Pearson said in an interview the only player he never watched live was Mahrez because he trusted Walsh how good he was and we had an early KO when Walsh was watching Mahrez in a game. He wasn't "lucky" to have Walsh either, they had a working relationship just like any other partnership. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 8 hours ago, Col city fan said: I think if you compare Rodgers even to Nige and Walsh, his signings have been really poor in the main. 8 hours ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: I think it's a lot easier to gamble on transfers and find gems in the Championship than in the PL. We didn't "discover" anyone in the summer of 2014, and Kante was the only young gem in 2016. Most of the amazing signings that people harp on about happened when we were in the Championship, where the odds on the roulette table are a little different. I absolutely loved the NP/Walsh Era’s but I’m totally with MarriedLeicesterGirl, you can’t compare on this one. You could say that what I loved so much about the dynamic between Big Nige, Walsh and Shakey was the clear dynamics and what they individually brought to the table. Rodgers and our “refresh” could really do with a bit of a back room shuffle as others have pointed out to help freshen everything up a little bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-fox Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 1 hour ago, SafewayFox said: I absolutely loved the NP/Walsh Era’s but I’m totally with MarriedLeicesterGirl, you can’t compare on this one. You could say that what I loved so much about the dynamic between Big Nige, Walsh and Shakey was the clear dynamics and what they individually brought to the table. Rodgers and our “refresh” could really do with a bit of a back room shuffle as others have pointed out to help freshen everything up a little bit. Starting with a defensive coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest454545 Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 47 minutes ago, Blue-fox said: Starting with a defensive coach Do other clubs have defensive coaches? Seems like it's not a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 30 June 2022 Share Posted 30 June 2022 1 hour ago, Guest454545 said: Do other clubs have defensive coaches? Seems like it's not a thing. Since we have goalkeeping coaches then I'd assume we also have defensive coaches although now I type that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest454545 Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 49 minutes ago, Foxxed said: Since we have goalkeeping coaches then I'd assume we also have defensive coaches although now I type that... But we can name/search the name of the keeper coaches at every club. Who is the defensive coach at Man City? Liverpool? United? Southampton? Etc. Should be easy to Google, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 4 hours ago, Guest454545 said: Do other clubs have defensive coaches? Seems like it's not a thing. You hear mention of some having them or hiring specialists. We certainly need help! It puzzles me though because Toure was a very good defender. I suppose like many things though, it's one thing knowing or being good at something but quite another teaching someone else to do it. If he can't 'teach' though as a coach, it begs the question what he's doing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 6 hours ago, Guest454545 said: But we can name/search the name of the keeper coaches at every club. Who is the defensive coach at Man City? Liverpool? United? Southampton? Etc. Should be easy to Google, right? 100% spot on that there isn’t often (ever) a coach classed as a defensive coach BUT when a manager has his assistants he typically gets them in for certain reasons. Whether they trust their judgement on players/tactics or just loves how they coach/improve players in certain areas. Fair to say that part of coaching football players (albeit my experience was playing at youth/grass roots level and doing level 1 badges) is all about routines and improving a weakness is it not? Someone surely is accountable for practising set-pieces as an example in our current set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 Anyone else starting to wonder if Rodgers rebuild was just a way of deflecting the heat at the time. Just like he didn't realise how important the forest result was to us. If he dont do this rebuild the heat will be on him from the start. Hes the only one excuse left and that will be it's Top's fault he didn't get me my players. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 25 minutes ago, SafewayFox said: Someone surely is accountable for practising set-pieces as an example in our current set up? One issue with this problem is as good as Kasper is he dont command his area. Teams have worked it out and play to it. Drop a ball on the 6yard line front or back post and it's in. But Kasper never makes an attempt for the ball. So leaving the defenders to do all the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 1 July 2022 Author Share Posted 1 July 2022 18 minutes ago, sylofox said: Anyone else starting to wonder if Rodgers rebuild was just a way of deflecting the heat at the time. Just like he didn't realise how important the forest result was to us. If he dont do this rebuild the heat will be on him from the start. Hes the only one excuse left and that will be it's Top's fault he didn't get me my players. Tbf, I keep seeing the Forest thing, but if there's someone that understands the importance of rivalry it's Rodgers. Considering he's managed in some of the biggest derbies in Britain. He let himself down with the team selection prior to the game and the players were just as bad with the pathetic performance. However that same team won't be selected for the league fixture in the coming season. A cup game is so much different to a league game. He's not the only manager to go to the City Ground and get battered. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 Doing well isn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 1 hour ago, sylofox said: Just like he didn't realise how important the forest result was to us. 58 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He let himself down with the team selection prior to the game and the players were just as bad with the pathetic performance. However that same team won't be selected for the league fixture in the coming season. A cup game is so much different to a league game. Not sure Rodgers should be getting the heat for the Forest game, he picked a team with 8 full internationals and 2 who would be capped as full internationals later in 2022 and an England u21 fullback. That team should have been more than capable of a decent performance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 49 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Not sure Rodgers should be getting the heat for the Forest game, he picked a team with 8 full internationals and 2 who would be capped as full internationals later in 2022 and an England u21 fullback. That team should have been more than capable of a decent performance. Indeed, he often had a team full of internationals that barely looked like they'd played football before. Very odd that they looked so poor so often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 2 hours ago, sylofox said: Anyone else starting to wonder if Rodgers rebuild was just a way of deflecting the heat at the time. Just like he didn't realise how important the forest result was to us. If he dont do this rebuild the heat will be on him from the start. Hes the only one excuse left and that will be it's Top's fault he didn't get me my players. In interview ls rodgers spins to deflect any criticism of himself and to big up his achievements (rubbishing entitled fans etc). He has a tell ...where by he looks out of the corner of his eye almost to see if the interviewer is buying his spin... or as if he is wary of being found out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 1 July 2022 Author Share Posted 1 July 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Not sure Rodgers should be getting the heat for the Forest game, he picked a team with 8 full internationals and 2 who would be capped as full internationals later in 2022 and an England u21 fullback. That team should have been more than capable of a decent performance. Indeed, as the next part of my post clarified. But he is the manager overall so of course the heat is on him, for every result. Quote He let himself down with the team selection prior to the game and the players were just as bad with the pathetic performance. However that same team won't be selected for the league fixture in the coming season. A cup game is so much different to a league game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 2 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Not sure Rodgers should be getting the heat for the Forest game, he picked a team with 8 full internationals and 2 who would be capped as full internationals later in 2022 and an England u21 fullback. That team should have been more than capable of a decent performance. It's not just the team he puts out though is it. His boring tactics are a huge part of the problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 9 minutes ago, sylofox said: It's not just the team he puts out though is it. His boring tactics are a huge part of the problem. That team should be smashing Forest but it was set up in such a way that they just took us to pieces. I don't think we put them under any pressure at all during the game. Absolutely schooled by a coach on the up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 1 July 2022 Author Share Posted 1 July 2022 25 minutes ago, filbertway said: That team should be smashing Forest but it was set up in such a way that they just took us to pieces. I don't think we put them under any pressure at all during the game. Absolutely schooled by a coach on the up. Tbh they just wanted it more on the pitch. We made Davies look like Drogba, he was so much stronger than any of our players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 36 minutes ago, sylofox said: It's not just the team he puts out though is it. His boring tactics are a huge part of the problem. I don't think anyone can come out of that Forest game with any credit, players, coaches, or manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 27 minutes ago, filbertway said: That team should be smashing Forest but it was set up in such a way that they just took us to pieces. I don't think we put them under any pressure at all during the game. Absolutely schooled by a coach on the up. I think it was down to desire and attitude, we conceded two goals and folded like a pack of cards. I always worry about our character when the likes of Vardy, Evans and Kasper don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 Pouch has left PSG.... saying he wants to move to a bigger club... and free them from posession football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 4 hours ago, Fox92 said: Tbf, I keep seeing the Forest thing, but if there's someone that understands the importance of rivalry it's Rodgers. Considering he's managed in some of the biggest derbies in Britain. He let himself down with the team selection prior to the game and the players were just as bad with the pathetic performance. However that same team won't be selected for the league fixture in the coming season. A cup game is so much different to a league game. He's not the only manager to go to the City Ground and get battered. Indeed, who can ever forget our infamous 5-1 stuffing there under Pearson in 2009-10! Nice to get revenge in the return fixture though in an otherwise phenomenal season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 1 July 2022 Share Posted 1 July 2022 I'm guessing this rebuild hasn't happened because we've not been able to get Glover in as early as was expected or anticipated. That's probably out of Rodgers' control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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