foxfanazer Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 (edited) What exactly are his main strengths? He doesn't appear to be much of a motivator, he has one style of play which is easy to play against and his in game management is frankly appalling. Add to that he doesn't seem to have an eye for transfers and you have to wonder how he's demanding the wage he's getting Edited 8 August 2022 by foxfanazer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 34 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: Ferguson is arguably the greatest British manager of all time. By his own admission, he wasn’t as tactically aware as some managers but consistently had a very good coach as deputy who complimented him. Where his strengths were motivational and psychological. And he did the simple things well - bring on a forward or two when oppositions got deeper, playing 4-5-1 in Europe etc. Rodgers had so many simple choices ahead of him - bring on Mendy as he’s done previously to close a game out, and bring on Perez who has been more than useful from the bench and effective at pressing the opposition, yet he goes for the outlandish. And Praet has been very good in preseason and links up well with Tielemans and Castagne. The best managers would not have made the decision to bring on an extra striker, and just puts more pressure on him. Hopefully he’s learned from it and will stick to what’s worked well for him. Sadly he seems immune to learning from mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc_forever Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 8 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Sadly he seems immune to learning from mistakes. He showed he can vs Man City. Went toe to toe with them and we were easily beaten 3-1. Switched to counter-attacking the following season and we won 5-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 9 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Sadly he seems immune to learning from mistakes. He can't learn because he doesn't even see them as mistakes. He's adept at shifting blame - tired players make mistakes, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 careful what you wish for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 1 hour ago, StanSP said: For all the shite that occurred yesterday, and understandable frustrations, I'd love if he masterminded a win against Arsenal The only thing he's likely to be "masterminding" is to walk out of here without losing any of his outlandish salary money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEFox23 Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 Hate to say it, but I'm slowly turning Yesterdays negative formation and substitution baffles me! Also starting to think his cries for a squad rebuild after the Forest game , knowing it wasn't going to be the case gives him a freebie season or excuse. Taken us as far as he can ? Don't get me wrong, credit where its due - FA Cup win and Europa league qualification is amazing and exactly where we need to be at....i just think were drifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 20 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: The next dozen matches will tell us a lot either way Why do you need 12 more matches... we have last season to consider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 3 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Why do you need 12 more matches... we have last season to consider? The reality is the board will need as many matches as humanly possible because we are so skint that paying him off isn't an option. Now the financial situation is a lot clearer it makes a lot of sense why he wasn't given the boot during last seasons horrendous run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 1 minute ago, Dames said: The reality is the board will need as many matches as humanly possible because we are so skint that paying him off isn't an option. Now the financial situation is a lot clearer it makes a lot of sense why he wasn't given the boot during last seasons horrendous run. I think we could just continue to wage him over the remaining contract term... ,(unless he wsnts to compromise)... of course our options depend on his contract and we hsve previous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 Just now, foxinsocks said: I think we could just continue to wage him over the remaining contract term... ,(unless he wsnts to compromise)... of course our options depend on his contract and we hsve previous I don't think its feasible. We've just shifted 130k a week off the budget and by all accounts we need to shift more to even think of considering any signings. Having Rodgers hefty wage on top of a new managers decent wage would make us unable to function. Financially unless we want to break the rules, we are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 1 minute ago, Dames said: I don't think its feasible. We've just shifted 130k a week off the budget and by all accounts we need to shift more to even think of considering any signings. Having Rodgers hefty wage on top of a new managers decent wage would make us unable to function. Financially unless we want to break the rules, we are screwed. Can you explsin the detail of why you say that? Is it the current ffp or the new pne starting next year... or is is cashflow . I cant tie down what is limoting us this summer. Further the reality is that rodgers payoff will be ameliorated by wages from his next employer (... if our contracts are tight!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 6 hours ago, AKCJ said: A change for the sake of change almost never works in football. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10645-016-9277-0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 4 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Can you explsin the detail of why you say that? Is it the current ffp or the new pne starting next year... or is is cashflow . I cant tie down what is limoting us this summer. Further the reality is that rodgers payoff will be ameliorated by wages from his next employer (... if our contracts are tight!!!) Its FFP - essentially we need to drop our wage spend from 90% - 50/60% over the next 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 Just now, Dames said: Its FFP - essentially we need to drop our wage spend from 90% - 50/60% over the next 3 years. Yes... but that starts in 23/24. We have a shed load of contracts up.by then. It is to be limited to.90% of revenue... so clubs will still make losses an non player costs exceed 10% of revenue. ( i expect we will spead transfer fees and commissions over the lifetime of the contracts) Of course we dont know exactly what 23/24 revenue will be... pl money at minimum + tickets and sponsorships. Do you know what our current player costs (wages and depreciated purchase fees) v revenue are? I can't see if this is or is not the prob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyrob Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 If you play certain games ie fifa or pes for example, they tend to give you a target finish for the season either top 10 or europe or a trophy maybe. What do people think Brendons objectives for this season are that have been set by the club? I reckon he can have a pretty poor season by our expectations because of the finances.... in which case anybody wanting to see the back of him might be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 44 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: He showed he can vs Man City. Went toe to toe with them and we were easily beaten 3-1. Switched to counter-attacking the following season and we won 5-2. That was an eternity ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboFox Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 6 minutes ago, Scoobyrob said: If you play certain games ie fifa or pes for example, they tend to give you a target finish for the season either top 10 or europe or a trophy maybe. What do people think Brendons objectives for this season are that have been set by the club? I reckon he can have a pretty poor season by our expectations because of the finances.... in which case anybody wanting to see the back of him might be disappointed. "We'd be happy just to stay in the league" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 If the club want Pochettino as their next manager, I could warm to it...he wouldn't be my first choice, but he got experience of the EPL and now Europe. He can build a team on a limited budget but he was poor in recruitment and results towards the final year at Spurs. He was linked with the ManU job but they went for Ten Hag who may struggle as he only experience is in the Dutch league and the media seems to gone abit hush on the Messiah at Old Trafford. Also we do seem to get ex Southampton managers in Pearson and Puel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 10 minutes ago, Scoobyrob said: If you play certain games ie fifa or pes for example, they tend to give you a target finish for the season either top 10 or europe or a trophy maybe. What do people think Brendons objectives for this season are that have been set by the club? I reckon he can have a pretty poor season by our expectations because of the finances.... in which case anybody wanting to see the back of him might be disappointed. Owner and Rodgers have already said, the aim is to compete for the European spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 46 minutes ago, Simoken said: careful what you wish for. What makes you back him so strongly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 3 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: If the club want Pochettino as their next manager, I could warm to it...he wouldn't be my first choice, but he got experience of the EPL and now Europe. He can build a team on a limited budget but he was poor in recruitment and results towards the final year at Spurs. He was linked with the ManU job but they went for Ten Hag who may struggle as he only experience is in the Dutch league and the media seems to gone abit hush on the Messiah at Old Trafford. Also we do seem to get ex Southampton managers in Pearson and Puel Where does it say they’d want Poch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyrob Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 1 minute ago, coolhandfox said: Owner and Rodgers have already said, the aim is to compete for the European spots. Without a doubt but my guess is that a 14th place finish, 5 points above the drop and he'd still keep his job. I may be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 8 August 2022 Share Posted 8 August 2022 2 minutes ago, Scoobyrob said: Without a doubt but my guess is that a 14th place finish, 5 points above the drop and he'd still keep his job. I may be wrong though. I think they would make a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted 8 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 August 2022 1 hour ago, Simoken said: careful what you wish for. Saw this a lot last season. Careful what you settle for. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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