Brendan Rodgers

[Webbo]

Just now, Mickyblueeyes said:

I really don’t think people understand how disastrous the last 30 minutes against Brentford were. Nor the inability to shut up shop against Arsenal and not concede twice against Arsenal immediately after scoring. We look a troubled side. Not being able to defend is one of the fundamental reasons a side deemed to good to go down, goes down. 
 

I think we have immense talent but we currently have a bitter manager, a CB on his way out and one injury away from being a pretty mediocre side. We have major issues.

I did watch the match, I know what happened. I said att that it was a bad decision. 

[SafewayFox]

5 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Worse than finishing 8th.

 

We're 2 games into the season, losing to Arsenal is hardly unusual, the dropped points against Brentford was a disappointing but after yesterday's result perhaps we underestimated them a bit? 

Come on now.

 

The most unpopular manager in the world in Puel had us finishing 9th (with a much poorer squad and less money at his disposal btw)

 

I know you don’t seem to want to answer my main question, so I’ll frame it again…since May 16th 2021 (day after we won the FA cup) what has Rodgers shown to convince you that he’ll secure a European spot with us?

 

 

[Foxdiamond]

Perhaps we expect too much from post match interviews. Managers are contracted to give them but often they are all quite banal. We are not privy to what is discussed behind closed doors. The problem we have is that even allowing for injuries last season we do appear to have gone backwards. We have not addressed defensive issues that seem to be on repeat. We have a soft core. I don't expect the manager to give chapter and verse but you would expect some action to show on the pitch. We are too easy to play against.  

[when_you're_smiling]

14 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

Rodgers took over, probably the best young team in the country.
 

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                Maddison(23) Tielemans(23)

Perez(26)                                           Barnes(22)

                              Vardy(33)

this team was 3rd, well over half way through his first season, playing the best football I’ve ever seen down at the city.

 

90% of those players are still here. 99% have got worse, the manager is not getting the best out of the team at all. He didn’t complain about lack of experience in 19/20, we beat Southampton 9-0, constantly went away from home and picked up results, keeping clean sheets in the process.. with basically the same team we have now? Give or take..

And, for balance, where was that side in the table when he inherited it?

[NeilLCFC]

19 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

Rodgers took over, probably the best young team in the country.
 

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Ricardo(25) Evans(32) Soynucu(23) Chilwell(22)

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                Maddison(23) Tielemans(23)

Perez(26)                                           Barnes(22)

                              Vardy(33)

this team was 3rd, well over half way through his first season, playing the best football I’ve ever seen down at the city.

 

90% of those players are still here. 99% have got worse, the manager is not getting the best out of the team at all. He didn’t complain about lack of experience in 19/20, we beat Southampton 9-0, constantly went away from home and picked up results, keeping clean sheets in the process.. with basically the same team we have now? Give or take..

Exactly this.
 

In addition he’s also ripped apart the entire infrastructure that made us the envy of clubs across Europe. 

Edited 14 August 2022 by NeilLCFC

[4everfox]

2 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said:

Last season we were still only four one place off the seventh place you say we should finish in and lost a cup quarter final on pens. That’s still competitive.

Not competitive enough for me I'm afraid, we were never in and around the top six last season. And the only reason we were demoted to the conference league was because Rodgers is and always will be incompetent in Europe. He has shown he isn't capable of progressing the club to the next level, time to give someone else a chance to do so. 

[Webbo]

Just now, SafewayFox said:

Come on now.

 

The most unpopular manager in the world in Puel had us finishing 9th (with a much poorer squad and less money at his disposal btw)

 

I know you don’t seem to want to answer my main question, so I’ll frame it again…since May 16th 2021 (day after we won the FA cup) what has Rodgers shown to convince you that he’ll secure a European spot with us?

 

 

Hang on we're constantly told that Brendan can't sign a player and all our best players were signed by Puel. Even with a disastrous injury list Brendan finished higher. 

 

Will we qualify for Europe again under Rodgers, I don't know. I'd say, being Leicester City, it's as likely as under any other manager. 

[Mickyblueeyes]

6 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I did watch the match, I know what happened. I said att that it was a bad decision. 

But it’s not just a decision is it. We do continuously, every season. Collapses are part and parcel of the team we have become. 

[kiwiturk]

15 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

Rodgers took over, probably the best young team in the country.
 

                           Schmeichel(32)

Ricardo(25) Evans(32) Soynucu(23) Chilwell(22)

                               Ndidi(23)

                Maddison(23) Tielemans(23)

Perez(26)                                           Barnes(22)

                              Vardy(33)

this team was 3rd, well over half way through his first season, playing the best football I’ve ever seen down at the city.

 

90% of those players are still here. 99% have got worse, the manager is not getting the best out of the team at all. He didn’t complain about lack of experience in 19/20, we beat Southampton 9-0, constantly went away from home and picked up results, keeping clean sheets in the process.. with basically the same team we have now? Give or take..

Absolutely agree 100% what you said.

I believe that the players do not believe the brand of football BR's presenting to them anymore and lost their faith on him.

 

[JimmyC74]

Just now, sacreblueits442 said:

...I really do not believe we will be offering that amount of salary again, to any incoming manager!!!

  A double edged sword, when things start to go wrong, you become constrained by a contract and a manager who is too expensive to move.

As you say a double edged sword. I doubt we would take a risk with a young lower league manager but you don’t want a mercenary type who is all about a huge transfer budget and wage. 
 

I doubt we would go for likes of Poch or Mancini but, someone like Marco Rose or Kasper Hjulman may be more realistic. I have come around to being Rodgers out but I am not clear who we would replace him with.

[kingfox]

All you need to do is look at Brendan’s record, he is a three year manager, after three years things turn stale.

 

He gets teams to a certain high point, then he messes things up, his time at Liverpool being the prime example. His high point at Liverpool was that 2nd place finish, everything went downhill from there and he inevitably got sacked in 2015. He was with Celtic for three seasons, quickly jumped ship after boredom kicked in. Now here at Leicester City, he’s achieved his high points of 5th place finishes and the FA Cup, now after three years things have gone stale which was clear for all to see last season.

 

Last season he should have been sacked after the defeat against Forest, he then produced a Houdini type act where we had a good little spell in March/April. We then lost to Newcastle and the same cracks started to appear again, we had a shitty little spell of poor results against Everton, Villa & Spurs. At that point the shackles were off, we weren’t getting Europe, so it was a case of trying to finish as high as we can. Yet again he pulled off another Houdini act with a string of games against poor opposition in Watford, Norwich & Southampton which led to us finishing 8th, on the whole though last season was nothing more than a mixture of average & poor. 
 

Just like his times at Liverpool & Celtic, it now feels like he’s inevitably hit his stale patch. He quickly deflects blame elsewhere, takes no responsibility on himself, says numerous bizarre things in the media and looks bored in his body language. 
 

The refresh button needs to be hit on both the manager and the squad, Leicester City needs a new identity or I fear the atmosphere at this football club could turn seriously toxic.

[VictorFox]

I miss Puel 

[SafewayFox]

2 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Hang on we're constantly told that Brendan can't sign a player and all our best players were signed by Puel. Even with a disastrous injury list Brendan finished higher. 

 

Will we qualify for Europe again under Rodgers, I don't know. I'd say, being Leicester City, it's as likely as under any other manager. 

Ohh, we’re playing it like that?

 

Did we not have our highest net spend in our PL history LAST season?

 

You sure you’re not actually Brendan mate?

 

The narrative you spin to defend Rodgers is next level.

[SheppyFox]

[Webbo]

Just now, SafewayFox said:

Ohh, we’re playing it like that?

 

Did we not have our highest net spend in our PL history LAST season?

 

You sure you’re not actually Brendan mate?

 

The narrative you spin to defend Rodgers is next level.

Haven't we got the lowest spend this season. 

 

Ps can we stop the personal stuff please, there's no need, we're supposed to be discussing things here. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I ain’t blaming Rodgers for everything that has gone wrong at the club in recent years but I have to say he has been the orchestrator of his own downfall. We have all been shouting out for right winger to be signed, people point to the fact the club haven’t backed him on this however it was him and his team that insisted on blowing a significant fee on Perez who was then deployed out of position surely that outlay could have been directed to a player who was a specialist in that role. 
 

The club then signed Under on loan with an option to buy, he looked to have the tools to be successful but it almost felt Rodgers had already decided he wasn’t for him and gave him a few chances and despite showing some potential, he was discarded and seemed to be treated fairly badly and I still believe this had a massive impact on Cags.
 

Last season we signed Lookman on loan and whilst he did ok he didn’t set the place alight and was far from being automatic first choice and I remember Brendan being far from committal on whether we would sign him permanently as he was saying it was about his numbers  and has he delivered enough to warrant a permanent move. 
 

We do need to sign a right winger but I am not convinced Rodgers would utilise them anyway, imagine if he managed Mahrez, he would be taking him off week in week out making the point his work rate and defensive work is not at the standard he expects, it’s the same with Barnes, on many occasions he is pulled and it’s because Brendan wants more defensive option even though Barnes is one of our most effective attacking options. However poorly he is playing he has that knack of producing an assist or goal, his pace is a constant threat and he is such a good outlet. 
 

For me instead of trying to turn Wilf into Busquets leave him to sit in front of the back 4, he can mop up, intercept and snuff out the danger which means the wingers can play with more freedom, Barnes and someone like an Under would really flourish with Vardy and Maddison as the attacking quartet. 
 

Brendan wants to play with wingers but he wants to stifle them with a heavy focus on defensive work, so be careful because we could end up with 2 players like Perez on our wings in years to come if he has his way. 

 

[ARTY_FOX]

3 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Haven't we got the lowest spend this season. 

 

Ps can we stop the personal stuff please, there's no need, we're supposed to be discussing things here. 

Out of pure interest, what would it take for you to think a change is needed? 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, SafewayFox said:

Ohh, we’re playing it like that?

 

Did we not have our highest net spend in our PL history LAST season?

 

You sure you’re not actually Brendan mate?

 

The narrative you spin to defend Rodgers is next level.

The first summer we didn’t make a big sale since we began to spend decent amounts 

 

hindsight says that was a mistake 

 

It could be that the change in ffp where salary is now much more important has led us to rethink our policy 

[Blue ROI]

Just waiting for the 'dreaded vote of confidence' any day now.....

[SafewayFox]

3 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Haven't we got the lowest spend this season. 

 

Ps can we stop the personal stuff please, there's no need, we're supposed to be discussing things here. 

I’m big enough to say I didn’t mean to cause any offence if you thought my comment about being Rodgers is personal.

 

Agreed, I come here to chat/debate/discuss with other LCFC fans so clearly not out to offend.

 

All I’ll say is the reason that you stated we have the lowest spend this season is because of my quoted largest net spend only LAST season under Rodgers.

 

Remember, money was brought up when I said how much more money Rodgers HAS had at his disposal than Puel who got us 9th 🙄

[norwichfox]

Just now, Blue ROI said:

Just waiting for the 'dreaded vote of confidence' any day now.....

Not dreaded here, looking forward to it with heart pumping anticipation...can't wait for him to go.

[volpeazzurro]

1 hour ago, Claridge said:

Praet was awful when he came on and Soumare is basically useless. We need to sell both of them and hopefully get someone with a bit more aggression/commitment. Those two never seem to show any

They did well pre-season. Neither given a run of games. Both have to be a better option in a suitable formation than now serial underperformer Tielemans, nothing to lose there. 

Edited 14 August 2022 by volpeazzurro

[Jaspa]

He's not getting the best out of his players, it's been going on for a while and it's not going to improve. Writting on the wall by the Trent in February. Even if we miraculously make it back into Europe, do you trust him to do well in it after our previous Europa League campaigns? Do you trust him with more money after last summer?

 

Stop ****ing around Leicester. Bite the bullet. You have fans paying ridiculous amounts of money for tickets to watch a faultering team.

[volpeazzurro]

10 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I ain’t blaming Rodgers for everything that has gone wrong at the club in recent years but I have to say he has been the orchestrator of his own downfall. We have all been shouting out for right winger to be signed, people point to the fact the club haven’t backed him on this however it was him and his team that insisted on blowing a significant fee on Perez who was then deployed out of position surely that outlay could have been directed to a player who was a specialist in that role. 
 

The club then signed Under on loan with an option to buy, he looked to have the tools to be successful but it almost felt Rodgers had already decided he wasn’t for him and gave him a few chances and despite showing some potential, he was discarded and seemed to be treated fairly badly and I still believe this had a massive impact on Cags.
 

Last season we signed Lookman on loan and whilst he did ok he didn’t set the place alight and was far from being automatic first choice and I remember Brendan being far from committal on whether we would sign him permanently as he was saying it was about his numbers  and has he delivered enough to warrant a permanent move. 
 

We do need to sign a right winger but I am not convinced Rodgers would utilise them anyway, imagine if he managed Mahrez, he would be taking him off week in week out making the point his work rate and defensive work is not at the standard he expects, it’s the same with Barnes, on many occasions he is pulled and it’s because Brendan wants more defensive option even though Barnes is one of our most effective attacking options. However poorly he is playing he has that knack of producing an assist or goal, his pace is a constant threat and he is such a good outlet. 
 

For me instead of trying to turn Wilf into Busquets leave him to sit in front of the back 4, he can mop up, intercept and snuff out the danger which means the wingers can play with more freedom, Barnes and someone like an Under would really flourish with Vardy and Maddison as the attacking quartet. 
 

Brendan wants to play with wingers but he wants to stifle them with a heavy focus on defensive work, so be careful because we could end up with 2 players like Perez on our wings in years to come if he has his way. 

 

Can't fault any of that. Under, as you say never got a decent sniff.

[An Sionnach]

2 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I ain’t blaming Rodgers for everything that has gone wrong at the club in recent years but I have to say he has been the orchestrator of his own downfall. We have all been shouting out for right winger to be signed, people point to the fact the club haven’t backed him on this however it was him and his team that insisted on blowing a significant fee on Perez who was then deployed out of position surely that outlay could have been directed to a player who was a specialist in that role. 
 

The club then signed Under on loan with an option to buy, he looked to have the tools to be successful but it almost felt Rodgers had already decided he wasn’t for him and gave him a few chances and despite showing some potential, he was discarded and seemed to be treated fairly badly and I still believe this had a massive impact on Cags.
 

Last season we signed Lookman on loan and whilst he did ok he didn’t set the place alight and was far from being automatic first choice and I remember Brendan being far from committal on whether we would sign him permanently as he was saying it was about his numbers  and has he delivered enough to warrant a permanent move. 
 

We do need to sign a right winger but I am not convinced Rodgers would utilise them anyway, imagine if he managed Mahrez, he would be taking him off week in week out making the point his work rate and defensive work is not at the standard he expects, it’s the same with Barnes, on many occasions he is pulled and it’s because Brendan wants more defensive option even though Barnes is one of our most effective attacking options. However poorly he is playing he has that knack of producing an assist or goal, his pace is a constant threat and he is such a good outlet. 
 

For me instead of trying to turn Wilf into Busquets leave him to sit in front of the back 4, he can mop up, intercept and snuff out the danger which means the wingers can play with more freedom, Barnes and someone like an Under would really flourish with Vardy and Maddison as the attacking quartet. 
 

Brendan wants to play with wingers but he wants to stifle them with a heavy focus on defensive work, so be careful because we could end up with 2 players like Perez on our wings in years to come if he has his way. 

 

We have serious defensive problems , we are a dead easy touch. The returns from injury has made no difference. Barnes is a poor defender - period. To play another wide man who can't defend would be stupid. Our defending has been poor for over two years , if we don' t get better quickly we will be in real trouble. We can't rely on outscoring the opposition. At the moment Maddison is our principal goal threat and that cannot continue unless we now see him as a striker. When we won the title only Mahrez didn',t defend. I have no faith at all that this team can play 90 minutes without conceding , we simply have to sort this out.