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Brendan Rodgers

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The_77

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1 minute ago, BKLFox said:

I apologise if I hurt your feelings but when people write they hate Rodgers then it’s emotional I don’t need a special tool to read that, only an understanding of English.

 

You say a factor is based on the reality of results, but the reality is our results got better as we ended last season, in fact the reality is only Man C, Liverpool, Spurs and Brighton bettered our final 6 results and if there was an additional 3 games that trend would probably seen us 5th.

 

The reality is our form improved once we got everyone fit, we are now already 2 starters down, hindered by wages and unable to recruit and have 3 star players heads possibly in the clouds, this all needs to settle then we can be judged.

 

Is Rodgers free from any accountability for how horribly Harvey Barnes’s knee has been managed over the last few seasons?

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1 minute ago, The_77 said:

Is Rodgers free from any accountability for how horribly Harvey Barnes’s knee has been managed over the last few seasons?

No if he disregarded anything the medical team advised & told Harvey to put down the crutches and put his boots on

 

Yes if the specialist said his knee was successful fixed, the medical team said he’s fit and mobile and Harvey said I’m raring to go boss

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7 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I apologise if I hurt your feelings but when people write they hate Rodgers then it’s emotional I don’t need a special tool to read that, only an understanding of English.

 

You say a factor is based on the reality of results, but the reality is our results got better as we ended last season, in fact the reality is only Man C, Liverpool, Spurs and Brighton bettered our final 6 results and if there was an additional 3 games that trend would probably seen us 5th.

 

The reality is our form improved once we got everyone fit, we are now already 2 starters down, hindered by wages and unable to recruit and have 3 star players heads possibly in the clouds, this all needs to settle then we can be judged.

 

It isn't a question of hurt feelings .are you a wannabee shrink or something ? I have never said  I hate him, please feel free to prove me wrong by quoting where I have. We are on a downward trend, in a number of ways, and certainly his naive and silly tactics have not helped in the last two games, especially against Brentford. There are so many objective other factors. do you think Vestergaard and Bertrand were good buys then ?

Please try and focus on objective factors and cut back on the armchair shrink stuff eh ?

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2 hours ago, Claridge said:

im a bit lost on the current form of preat and soumare. Looking OK against dross in pre season doesn't count does it?

It's still better than a disinterested lame duck like Tielemans, unless you're in a minority of people who think he had a stormer against Arsenal?

 

He was poor for the majority of last season, time to move on but I doubt he'll go anywhere soon because no-one would want to pay 20m for him, he's not worth the risk. Better waiting for a free next year.

 

A fit and firing settled Soumare would be a good signing for us but, whether we'd get that is doubtful. In fairness to him he looks a lot trimmer and looked as good as anyone can in pre-season, so if he's not even given a chance, why should he bother. On top of which, if you know anything about him, Rodgers hardly played him to his strengths, yet again trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Praet has been covered to death. Even Mendy would be a better proposition than chubby chops Tielemans. 

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6 minutes ago, The_77 said:

Is Rodgers free from any accountability for how horribly Harvey Barnes’s knee has been managed over the last few seasons?

Well it does appear that some are blind to that, and many other factors...."love is blind" maybe ??

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1 minute ago, volpeazzurro said:

It's still better than a disinterested lame duck like Tielemans, unless you're in a minority of people who think he had a stormer against Arsenal?

 

He was poor for the majority of last season, time to move on but I doubt he'll go anywhere soon because no-one would want to pay 20m for him, he's not worth the risk. Better waiting for a free next year.

 

A fit and firing settled Soumare would be a good signing for us but, whether we'd get that is doubtful. In fairness to him he looks a lot trimmer and looked as good as anyone can in pre-season, so if he's not even given a chance, why should he bother. On top of which, if you know anything about him, Rodgers hardly played him to his strengths, yet again trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Praet has been covered to death. Even Mendy would be a better proposition than chubby chops Tielemans. 

Walking pace most of the game.

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4 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I said earlier it's not a good argument, too. I was just curious (I don't think it's detracting from the subject when we're debating whether or not he should be sacked)

That's not an answer mate. I said "what's your reality?", as in what's your expectations and targets?

I have explained the reality of what I, and many other can see many times, I am not going to again.For this season, Rodgers out, a decent replacement in, Fofana and Tiielemans sorted out, mid table stability,a decent intelligent next transfer window,a sorting out of our 12 month contractual mess, and a rebuild. No white knights, one has to try and be realistic eh :)

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19 minutes ago, The_77 said:

I just don’t get this guy sometimes. You can’t beat another Premier League side when you play uncomfortable tactics. Every other team has a bread and butter formation so the players know exactly where to be and where their teammates are.

 

I know we don’t have our ideal XI without Barnes but Rodgers has to stop with this tactical flexibility nonsense. He’s had the same side for over a year now, our guys should know *in their sleep* where to be and where their teammates are, yet here they are guessing again. 

Baffling is that he mainly played a reasonably successful 4 at the back for the most of pre-season, then, on the first day against Brentford plays a 3.

 

Not only that, he plays Armarty on the extreme left of a three that wasn't even tried in pre-season and neither has he seemingly played it at all in his career. 

 

To top that, after he clearly struggled against the mighty Brentford, he sticks him out their again against the far superior Arsenal?

 

Why? Am I missing something really obvious here?

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9 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

It's still better than a disinterested lame duck like Tielemans, unless you're in a minority of people who think he had a stormer against Arsenal?

 

He was poor for the majority of last season, time to move on but I doubt he'll go anywhere soon because no-one would want to pay 20m for him, he's not worth the risk. Better waiting for a free next year.

 

A fit and firing settled Soumare would be a good signing for us but, whether we'd get that is doubtful. In fairness to him he looks a lot trimmer and looked as good as anyone can in pre-season, so if he's not even given a chance, why should he bother. On top of which, if you know anything about him, Rodgers hardly played him to his strengths, yet again trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Praet has been covered to death. Even Mendy would be a better proposition than chubby chops Tielemans. 

I agree ,other clubs are probably thinking why pay for him now, lets just wait and see if he is worth getting on a free next year.Personally I would stick the plonker in the youth team

and let him rot there. He isn't worth his place at the moment anyway

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Just now, pmcla26 said:

 

So you're hoping for mid table stability? You think we'll do worse than mid-table under Rodgers this season?

Well I think that is perfectly possible, if the team have lost faith in the manager. They seem to have, to me at least. Next 3 games should tell us. 

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19 minutes ago, itude said:

It isn't a question of hurt feelings .are you a wannabee shrink or something ? I have never said  I hate him, please feel free to prove me wrong by quoting where I have. We are on a downward trend, in a number of ways, and certainly his naive and silly tactics have not helped in the last two games, especially against Brentford. There are so many objective other factors. do you think Vestergaard and Bertrand were good buys then ?

Please try and focus on objective factors and cut back on the armchair shrink stuff eh ?

But I have given you factors, you say results are on a downward trend I proved to you that wasn’t actually the case with us finishing the 5th strongest last season

 

I’m in full agreement with you on the Brentford game it was naive not to utilise 5 subs.

Arsenal are better than us and will finish higher than us this season I believe.

 

No I don’t believe they were good buys but I also get why they were brought especially Bertrand.

I also don’t know who else was on the list that might have been a better buy for up to £15m 1 week before the season started with us down to 1 fit CB.


 

 

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Just now, pmcla26 said:

I don't think the team has, tbh. If there's one thing BR seems to have going for him, it's the dressing room. 

Ok. Err, well, again it’s good to have different opinions.  You might be right of course, possibly. Let’s hope so eh, and that this is just a very long and depressingly obvious blip. 

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What i see is a deteriorating situation, because of many factors. I also have failed to see Rodgers address these. he has had a lot more time than Claudio to sort these out, I see some of our best players wanting out. I see naive and sad to say, sometimes dumb tactics.  Where a continuation of that will land us, I have no idea. I see a downward trend, in so many areas, and that is scary.

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4 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

But I have given you factors, you say results are on a downward trend I proved to you that wasn’t actually the case with us finishing the 5th strongest last season

 

I’m in full agreement with you on the Brentford game it was naive not to utilise 5 subs.

Arsenal are better than us and will finish higher than us this season I believe.

 

No I don’t believe they were good buys but I also get why they were brought especially Bertrand.

I also don’t know who else was on the list that might have been a better buy for up to £15m 1 week before the season started with us down to 1 fit CB.

:appl:  Context is too willingly disregarded in favour of hyperbole or worse, social media derived drivel.

 

 These times of make your own truths is very strange indeed.  :)

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8 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Well I think that is perfectly possible, if the team have lost faith in the manager. They seem to have, to me at least. Next 3 games should tell us. 

Agreed, let us see

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5 hours ago, An Sionnach said:

We have serious defensive problems , we are a dead easy touch. The returns from injury has made no difference. Barnes is a poor defender - period. To play another wide man who can't defend would be stupid. Our defending has been poor for over two years , if we don' t get better quickly we will be in real trouble. We can't rely on outscoring the opposition. At the moment Maddison is our principal goal threat and that cannot continue unless we now see him as a striker. When we won the title only Mahrez didn',t defend. I have no faith at all that this team can play 90 minutes without conceding , we simply have to sort this out.

The skill set of Castagne, JJ, Wes, Cags, KDH and Ndidi should be strong enough.  To my mind the issue is more from an organisation and motivational perspective (Rodgers).

 

I wouldn’t want Dyche as manager but I think someone like that would transform our defending in open play and set pieces.

 

I think Rodgers is at the end of his cycle with these players. His coaching isn’t having the influence it once did. 
 

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1 minute ago, pmcla26 said:

Numerous players have described positive relationships with Rodgers. What makes you think that he's lost them?

Mate you actually are losing it. Rodgers clearly sidelines and marginalises players for little reason - it appears. He persists with players out of form and motivation. He clearly stopped Kasper getting the conservative appearances record for no good reason. He throws the players under the bus whenever he needs to protect his own ego. I could go on, but I think it is relatively clear he has few supporters left inside the club. Time will tell of course. Let’s hope you’re right eh, inspite of what seems obvious. 

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8 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

But I have given you factors, you say results are on a downward trend I proved to you that wasn’t actually the case with us finishing the 5th strongest last season

 

I’m in full agreement with you on the Brentford game it was naive not to utilise 5 subs.

Arsenal are better than us and will finish higher than us this season I believe.

 

No I don’t believe they were good buys but I also get why they were brought especially Bertrand.

I also don’t know who else was on the list that might have been a better buy for up to £15m 1 week before the season started with us down to 1 fit CB.


 

 

I just said "we are on a downward trend" did I not ? That is not simply referring to results

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10 minutes ago, foxinsocks said:

So how do we make it happen

If we don’t beat Southampton it’s going to be toxic. But we need to send a message to top.

if we beat Southampton it changes nothing.

UFS- how about a tifo of David Brent with words get out of our club?? Will also make it clear to the media what the fans think of him!

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