filbertway Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 22 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Shocks me that people think he isn't.... Why is that? I need to hear some reasoned logic or evidence as I don't understand in what world the man is earning 60 bags a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 17 minutes ago, AKCJ said: If Amartey is given consistent game time for a Premier League club, they'd want £15m. He's had spells in our side where he's done genuinely well. I especially thought he was good when playing as a 3rd CB in a back 3 for us. Loan them out and see how they get on. They've both done reasonably well when given the odd chance here and there and I imagine they'd both love to go and prove their worth. At the end of the day, Hamza is a youth product and Amartey cost pretty much pennies. They've got potential to bring in 30m between them fairly easily i'd have thought. I'm just going to respectively disagree and leave it at that. Amartey has never been better than adequate, Choudhury has never kicked on and well down the pecking order. Amartey will be 27 and Choudhury 24 this year. At some point you have to say you've seen enough over the years that you can't cling on to any fading hope that somehow either will turn it round and become a genuine first team player here rather than back up. If you get a decent cash offer for players of these profiles then sell IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 If we need to sell to generate enough to spend 20-30 on a new RW, we'll end up taking 10-15 mill for Hamza if we can get it rather than sending him out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 7 minutes ago, Gerard said: I'm just going to respectively disagree and leave it at that. Amartey has never been better than adequate, Choudhury has never kicked on and well down the pecking order. Amartey will be 27 and Choudhury 24 this year. At some point you have to say you've seen enough over the years that you can't cling on to any fading hope that somehow either will turn it round and become a genuine first team player here rather than back up. If you get a decent cash offer for players of these profiles then sell IMO. I think we both agree on that. We just disagree with the number. £10m would be good business for Newcastle. We're not in a position where we need to sell him that cheaply. Just loan him and see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 What kind of figures are we seeing at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 30 minutes ago, filbertway said: Why is that? I need to hear some reasoned logic or evidence as I don't understand in what world the man is earning 60 bags a week It may seem crazy but our players wages bill is over 90 mill in a year, and even that is way behind the likes of Man. U , Chelsea and Man.City. It is what it is, and it locks players in because those outside the top echelon cannot match our wages. Hamza would instantly be one of Newcastle's top earners if he went there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: It may seem crazy but our players wages bill is over 90 mill in a year, and even that is way behind the likes of Man. U , Chelsea and Man.City. It is what it is, and it locks players in because those outside the top echelon cannot match our wages. Hamza would instantly be one of Newcastle's top earners if he went there. I would be surprised if he is on much more than £10,000 a week. Lots of Newcastle players on 40 plus a week. Edited 28 July 2021 by gurru991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 6 minutes ago, gurru991 said: I would be surprised if he is on much more than £10,000 a week Think about it , you sit on the bench next to Mendy who gets five times as much as you, to do roughly the same job. You would soon have a very unsatisfied squad if that applied. Hamza may well be overpaid, although he earns far less than some , but squad cohesion demands salaries that keep players happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) 2021 Active Roster PLAYER (27) POS. AGE ANNUAL SALARY WEEKLY SALARY Jamie Vardy F 34 £7,280,000 £140,000 Kasper Schmeichel GK 34 £6,760,000 £130,000 James Maddison M 0 £5,720,000 £110,000 Dennis Praet M 27 £4,500,000 £86,538 Jonny Evans D 33 £4,160,000 £80,000 Onyinye Ndidi M 24 £3,900,000 £75,000 Ricardo Pereira D 27 £3,640,000 £70,000 Nampalys Mendy M 29 £2,860,000 £55,000 Timothy Castagne D 25 £2,600,000 £50,000 Marc Albrighton M 31 £2,340,000 £45,000 Richad Ghezzal M 29 £2,340,000 £45,000 Ayoze Perez F 27 £2,340,000 £45,000 Caglar Soyuncu D 25 £2,340,000 £45,000 Youri Tielemans M 24 £1,718,000 £33,038 Daniel Amartey D 26 £1,092,000 £21,000 Wesley Fofana D 20 £1,000,000 £19,231 Luke Thomas D 20 £600,000 £11,538 Harvey Barnes M 23 £520,000 £10,000 James Justin D 23 £429,000 £8,250 Hamza Choudhury M 24 £390,000 £7,500 Filip Benkovic D 24 - - Ryan Bertrand D 31 - - Patson Daka F 22 - - Kelechi Iheanacho F 24 - - Boubakary Soumaré M 22 - - Danny Ward GK 28 - - Danny Ward F 29 - - Edited 28 July 2021 by gurru991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfmlcfc Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 If anyone seriously thinks Hamza Choudhury is on anything close to £10k a week they need a massive, massive reality check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 8 minutes ago, gurru991 said: 2021 Active Roster PLAYER (27) POS. AGE ANNUAL SALARY WEEKLY SALARY Jamie Vardy F 34 £7,280,000 £140,000 Kasper Schmeichel GK 34 £6,760,000 £130,000 James Maddison M 0 £5,720,000 £110,000 Dennis Praet M 27 £4,500,000 £86,538 Jonny Evans D 33 £4,160,000 £80,000 Onyinye Ndidi M 24 £3,900,000 £75,000 Ricardo Pereira D 27 £3,640,000 £70,000 Nampalys Mendy M 29 £2,860,000 £55,000 Timothy Castagne D 25 £2,600,000 £50,000 Marc Albrighton M 31 £2,340,000 £45,000 Richad Ghezzal M 29 £2,340,000 £45,000 Ayoze Perez F 27 £2,340,000 £45,000 Caglar Soyuncu D 25 £2,340,000 £45,000 Youri Tielemans M 24 £1,718,000 £33,038 Daniel Amartey D 26 £1,092,000 £21,000 Wesley Fofana D 20 £1,000,000 £19,231 Luke Thomas D 20 £600,000 £11,538 Harvey Barnes M 23 £520,000 £10,000 James Justin D 23 £429,000 £8,250 Hamza Choudhury M 24 £390,000 £7,500 Filip Benkovic D 24 - - Ryan Bertrand D 31 - - Patson Daka F 22 - - Kelechi Iheanacho F 24 - - Boubakary Soumaré M 22 - - Danny Ward GK 28 - - Danny Ward F 29 - - Youri needs a huge rise based upon this data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) I have seen that list and if you believe it , Youri is currently earning just above a quarter of Maddison's pay. Once again our salary bill is over 90 million and its easy to work out the average pay from that. We have the seventh highest paid players in the premiership and to be honest if we are going to maintain top six status that is going to have to increase considerably. Edited 28 July 2021 by An Sionnach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomfmlcfc Posted 28 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2021 Just now, mozartfox said: Youri needs a huge rise based upon this data. We didn't sign a £32m player from a Russian-backed club in a tax haven to pay him less than a large proportion of the Championship. The vast majority of those numbers are way, way out. Barnes has an England cap and people genuinely believe he's on 10k? Utter nonsense 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 2 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Youri needs a huge rise based upon this data. And will be getting one for sure this Summer. I'm sure Leicester will be looking for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 4 minutes ago, tomfmlcfc said: We didn't sign a £32m player from a Russian-backed club in a tax haven to pay him less than a large proportion of the Championship. The vast majority of those numbers are way, way out. Barnes has an England cap and people genuinely believe he's on 10k? Utter nonsense So basically parts of this is made up crap..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 I’m sure that Youri figure is our portion of his wages when he was here on loan. We were probably paying at most 50% so he’s more than likely on at least twice that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 https://salarysport.com/football/premier-league/leicester-city/ This seems a lot more accurate based on the overall number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Just now, Chocolate Teapot said: https://salarysport.com/football/premier-league/leicester-city/ This seems a lot more accurate based on the overall number. Meltdown when people realise perez is on 80k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: https://salarysport.com/football/premier-league/leicester-city/ This seems a lot more accurate based on the overall number. They're plucked out someone's arse. Are we to believe Fofana who signed for nearly £30m is on 50k a week whilst a lad from the academy who had played 17 games in two seasons and has never been more than a squad player here is on 60k a week? Academy players usually get a rougher deal than signed players and Choudhury would have had little leverage when signing his first big contract. To take that as gospel and think that Fofana had less leverage in contract talks than Choudhury is preposterous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 16 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Meltdown when people realise perez is on 80k. That is absolutely correct , his contract totalled 16 million altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 8 minutes ago, Gerard said: They're plucked out someone's arse. Are we to believe Fofana who signed for nearly £30m is on 50k a week whilst a lad from the academy who had played 17 games in two seasons and has never been more than a squad player here is on 60k a week? Academy players usually get a rougher deal than signed players and Choudhury would have had little leverage when signing his first big contract. To take that as gospel and think that Fofana had less leverage in contract talks than Choudhury is preposterous. Not saying every detail is accurate more that it would match our total so broadly right. Im really enjoying people wanting to believe one set of numbers that's wholly inaccurate vs another set of number that are slightly inaccurate. Fofana was on nothing at ASSE so might not be on that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 18 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Meltdown when people realise perez is on 80k. With a must play clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Jadon Sancho has a contract worth about 50 million!!!. Our players are on peanuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Big Dan played a blinder to get his wages doubled while he'd hardly played in 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: With a must play clause I still don't believe this. We dropped him for a long period last year. I cannot see how that would come into force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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