Sharpe's Fox Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Father Ted said: A centre midfielder that cannot pass or control a football. comes down to this for me. We shoudn't have midfield players who can't recieve and pass the ball in one movement. He should be called Two Touch Choudhury. Edited 26 July 2021 by Sharpe's Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 ‘ the leicester city playmaker’ Now that’s just setting him up to fail isn’t it… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Foxxed Posted 26 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 26 July 2021 He needs sustained playing time to improve. He’s not had any since his initial breakthrough. And he won’t get it with Ndidi and Soumare in the team. It’s sad to see a local boy who’s been with us since a young boy leave. But our defensive midfield situation is so good that we have no opportunity to persist with a decent mid table defensive midfielder until he improves. A loan would be good for the books. But I can’t see anyone ousting Ndidi. And anyone trying to blame our previously second or third choice defensive midfielder, rather than the whole team, for failing to qualify for the champions league needs to have a serious word with themselves, or just post the evidence that Hamza has been nobbing your misses. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiriel Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 30 minutes ago, MPH said: ‘ the leicester city playmaker’ Now that’s just setting him up to fail isn’t it… What are you talking about, Hamza is a chance creating machine... for the opposition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jacnah Posted 26 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 26 July 2021 Hes a decent enough home grown player. He's not crap or a walking disaster, but as a club we have moved on and we need better quality players. I don't think most would disagree with that assessment, but, that's no reason to do the player down. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 He's seems a decent kid but has shown too much attitude at times. His ball control for me is his biggest weakness together with his positioning play by getting drawn out of position. He isn't a player for the level that we are at as a premier league side, but that said, I'm sure he'll have a good career either at mid-low PL level or championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 I'll be shocked to see Hamza make a career for himself in the Premier league. He'd probably be a decent regular for a mid table champ team. Biggest asset is his pace and engine, the rest is pretty much league one standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 6 minutes ago, UHDrive said: He's seems a decent kid but has shown too much attitude at times. His ball control for me is his biggest weakness together with his positioning play by getting drawn out of position. He isn't a player for the level that we are at as a premier league side, but that said, I'm sure he'll have a good career either at mid-low PL level or championship. If we loan him out to Newcastle and pay half his wages , it would cost us about 1.5 million but if he performs well and gets a lot of game time , he becomes much more valuable and remains our player . We then have arguably a player we can integrate back into the squad or have a much better chance of selling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: If we loan him out to Newcastle and pay half his wages , it would cost us about 1.5 million but if he performs well and gets a lot of game time , he becomes much more valuable and remains our player . We then have arguably a player we can integrate back into the squad or have a much better chance of selling. I don't see the logic in that. We know Hamzas pros and cons already and he can never develop into the type of DM we require I.e. Ndidi etc. He is better off the books and he also wants out of the club anyway for first team action regularly. Edited 26 July 2021 by UHDrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Leeds Fox Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 Might be tougher to shift hamza to Newcastle on loan now they are after tuanzebe on loan. They can only have 2 pl loans and presumably willock will head back up there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 2 hours ago, An Sionnach said: If we loan him out to Newcastle and pay half his wages , it would cost us about 1.5 million but if he performs well and gets a lot of game time , he becomes much more valuable and remains our player . We then have arguably a player we can integrate back into the squad or have a much better chance of selling. Apart from he is crap and won’t last in Newcastle’s team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Claridge said: Apart from he is crap and won’t last in Newcastle’s team In which case he stays with us for the next two years. If Steve Bruce read this forum he would think Hamza is totally hopeless. He isn't and Bruce knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 I like hamza but he doesn’t really suit us. When he drops in besides our centre halves on the edge of our box to receive the ball it gives me serious heart palpitations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 41 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: In which case he stays with us for the next two years. If Steve Bruce read this forum he would think Hamza is totally hopeless. He isn't and Bruce knows it. Just pretty crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 26 July 2021 Share Posted 26 July 2021 49 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: I like hamza but he doesn’t really suit us. When he drops in besides our centre halves on the edge of our box to receive the ball it gives me serious heart palpitations He is just a bit below the standards of the club currently, if we were of our traditional standings in this league he would most likely be a useful asset but we are where we are. I like the kid but it’s best for both parties if he plys his trade somewhere else now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 10:17, North Leeds Fox said: Might be tougher to shift hamza to Newcastle on loan now they are after tuanzebe on loan. They can only have 2 pl loans and presumably willock will head back up there too. For me we would be much better off to sell him this Summer & re-invest any monies received. It's not like he is going to improve drastically while on loan & return to make the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Leeds Fox Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 19 minutes ago, gurru991 said: For me we would be much better off to sell him this Summer & re-invest any monies received. It's not like he is going to improve drastically while on loan & return to make the team. I agree with all of that, just not sure that Newcastle have much money to spend and would only be able to afford a small fee or a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 Hamza's biggest weakness unfortunately, is not his skill which is pretty good , but a quick brain. This is vital at PL level given you have so little time to think. He does appear to be as hard as nails however and has a great engine. He would be a very good player at championship level. The problem as always is pay and we pay him very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 5 minutes ago, North Leeds Fox said: I agree with all of that, just not sure that Newcastle have much money to spend and would only be able to afford a small fee or a loan There must be other clubs besides Newcastle that are interested. Maybe Crystal Palace ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 He needs to play. Due to current circumstances he won’t get that regular game time here. It’s credit to him that he wants to play rather than taking an easy option of sitting on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen fox Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 As a club we have moved on from him not his fault. We r just massive now 😅😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 53 minutes ago, fleckneymike said: He needs to play. Due to current circumstances he won’t get that regular game time here. It’s credit to him that he wants to play rather than taking an easy option of sitting on the bench. I'd take the money. I'm assuming he has bigger ambitions. My ambition, however, actually is to sit on a bench all day, do little work and get paid well. It's my life's goal. And Hamza is throwing it away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 27 July 2021 Share Posted 27 July 2021 5 hours ago, fleckneymike said: He needs to play. Due to current circumstances he won’t get that regular game time here. It’s credit to him that he wants to play rather than taking an easy option of sitting on the bench. ....his career is passing him by...he sees Barnes, now a mainstay and Thomas looking to nail down a starting position!!! It cannot be easy to become the forgotten man, to go into training, and there is little you can do to change the situation. Rodgers I suspect believes he has limited talents and trust him to complete certain tasks at the end of games. Maybe leaving the club and getting an identity will be the one thing he needs to fulfil his potential. Perhaps he is looking at his game all wrong, and tries everyday to improve, but there maybe another approach where he learns to trust his instincts as opposed to working harder at what he is currently doing. Is there a player out there who he could model his game on, someone whose game is closely aligned to his natural game, where he just keeps the game ticking over in the middle of the park lime a metronome. Use his speed for recovery, stay on his feet, buy time for support and do not commit yourself in a tackle if there is no support behind you. What ever he has learned in these last few years, most of it has not been helpful, as initially he was being asked to play in a role that does not suit him. KDH went and found himself, I hope Hamza can do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 7 hours ago, gurru991 said: There must be other clubs besides Newcastle that are interested. Maybe Crystal Palace ?? Why must there? Hamza is pretty much a one-note player with very limited creativity. He’s the kind of guy that would be a squad player if he was homegrown for a lot of mid and lower-table sides, but it’s not like PL clubs go chasing guys like that in the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 33 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Why must there? Hamza is pretty much a one-note player with very limited creativity. He’s the kind of guy that would be a squad player if he was homegrown for a lot of mid and lower-table sides, but it’s not like PL clubs go chasing guys like that in the transfer window. If the price is right, there will be interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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