Jimbo Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 For some reason this kid is the one that I'm most excited about, I don't know why, probably because of our recent history with developing young talent. It's also the one rumour that has no substance to it. But something in my gut tells me we should go for this guy and that it would turn out alright for us. Which also probably means if we did sign him, he'd be doggo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 1 hour ago, Jimbo said: For some reason this kid is the one that I'm most excited about, I don't know why, probably because of our recent history with developing young talent. It's also the one rumour that has no substance to it. But something in my gut tells me we should go for this guy and that it would turn out alright for us. Which also probably means if we did sign him, he'd be doggo It's so blatantly obvious that he's on a one way ticket to the top, you can see it in his game. Last season he was undercooked, not used as much as he'd like and he's using that frustration this season by stepping it up in these 2 CL qualifiers he's played. Looks destined to be a world beater, the fact he's English as well will drive the demand up for him. I'd love us to make a statement and go after him like we did Fofana, pay what it takes and deal with how we finance it afterwards. He won't be a mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazarron fox Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 Pay what they want ? Worry about it later? So glad you’re not running the club or any business I was involved in 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 4 minutes ago, mazarron fox said: Pay what they want ? Worry about it later? So glad you’re not running the club or any business I was involved in 😂 Hahahaa you know what I mean. Like what we did with Fofana in the end, we pushed and pushed and got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 10 minutes ago, mazarron fox said: Pay what they want ? Worry about it later? So glad you’re not running the club or any business I was involved in 😂 ...there must have been in your business, where you saw an opportunity and went for it, believing at the time it was an expense which would cause you to overlook other areas for investment, but it would be worth it in the long run!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 July 2021 Author Share Posted 29 July 2021 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Hahahaa you know what I mean. Like what we did with Fofana in the end, we pushed and pushed and got him. Sounds like a pretty similar scenario to the Fofana deal in that the controlling staff member (Puel with Fofana, Technical Director for PSV) doesn’t want to sell but if we offer enough cash then the board will get involved to possibly approve the deal Just need to make it worth their while, probably cost €25m+ really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 6 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Sounds like a pretty similar scenario to the Fofana deal in that the controlling staff member (Puel with Fofana, Technical Director for PSV) doesn’t want to sell but if we offer enough cash then the board will get involved to possibly approve the deal Just need to make it worth their while, probably cost €25m+ really ...even at 30m Euros he would be a good investment!!! Hard to see that we could make a loss on this and if we did it would not be a significant one. This however would preclude the purchase of Pereira, and I am not saying that Pereira is the same quality as Coutinho, but he would be a very good version who would cover all the aspect that we are looking to bring Coutinho for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Sounds like a pretty similar scenario to the Fofana deal in that the controlling staff member (Puel with Fofana, Technical Director for PSV) doesn’t want to sell but if we offer enough cash then the board will get involved to possibly approve the deal Just need to make it worth their while, probably cost €25m+ really All well and good but they've just got 30m for malen so won't need to sell. I agree he feels like another fofana but psv seem in a different place to ASSE. Also don't think the player will push in the same way fofana did. He seems very happy there. Edited 29 July 2021 by Chocolate Teapot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 July 2021 Author Share Posted 29 July 2021 8 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: All well and good but they've just got 30m for malen so won't need to sell. I agree he feels like another fofana but psv seem in a different place to ASSE. Also don't think the player will push in the same way fofana did. He seems very happy there. He was actually quite unhappy at the end of last season/start of the summer as he wasn’t getting to start as many games as he wanted, and wanted to move to a team that would start him every week, looks like that could’ve changed with him starting both of PSV’s Champions League Qualifiers so far though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 10 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: All well and good but they've just got 30m for malen so won't need to sell. I agree he feels like another fofana but psv seem in a different place to ASSE. Also don't think the player will push in the same way fofana did. He seems very happy there. The way I see it is, they only got €30m for Malen who is more proven, so a similar price and they'd be under strong pressure to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 Buying this kid would just be like buying money. One good season and we’d make 50% profit no problem. 2 good seasons and that would be over 100% easily. Almost no downside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 8 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said: All well and good but they've just got 30m for malen so won't need to sell. I agree he feels like another fofana but psv seem in a different place to ASSE. Also don't think the player will push in the same way fofana did. He seems very happy there. As you’ve said repeatedly they won’t sell with the chance of the Champions League and the player will want hang around as well putting himself in that shop window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 10 hours ago, mazarron fox said: Pay what they want ? Worry about it later? So glad you’re not running the club or any business I was involved in 😂 Buy an appreciating asset? The plan seems quite sound to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 29 July 2021 Share Posted 29 July 2021 Sorry to poop at the party, but (as I said elsewhere) Madueke gives me a Ryan Sessegnon vibe and perhaps it was just due to his relatively underwhelming appearance at the Euro 21 championship. Of course, it could be just a one-off and personally I am wary of judging players solely on the tournament appearances (positive and/or negative), but I personally would not be willing to 'gamble' anything near 30 mil on him. Anyway, I have great faith in our recruitment team and process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 14 hours ago, Jimbo said: For some reason this kid is the one that I'm most excited about, I don't know why, probably because of our recent history with developing young talent. It's also the one rumour that has no substance to it. But something in my gut tells me we should go for this guy and that it would turn out alright for us. Which also probably means if we did sign him, he'd be doggo We were linked fairly concretely a while back, near the start of the window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 6 hours ago, NaijaFox said: Sorry to poop at the party, but (as I said elsewhere) Madueke gives me a Ryan Sessegnon vibe and perhaps it was just due to his relatively underwhelming appearance at the Euro 21 championship. Of course, it could be just a one-off and personally I am wary of judging players solely on the tournament appearances (positive and/or negative), but I personally would not be willing to 'gamble' anything near 30 mil on him. Anyway, I have great faith in our recruitment team and process. Appearance at euro 21 championship? Who exactly did he play for as he identifies as English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 3 hours ago, Pliskin said: Appearance at euro 21 championship? Who exactly did he play for as he identifies as English? England. He started in the loss against Portugal (and incidentally Trincao looked a peach in the same game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 No way they are selling him, a good showing in the CL if they get though and he's worth 10-15m more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 Madueke, Pereira, Bailey or Barardi. You just know we'll sign one of them, and wished we'd signed one of the others after 10 or so games. Hope I'm wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 (edited) I just hope it doesn’t get to the stage where we’re submitting late bids and looking desperate Edited 30 July 2021 by Pliskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfan92 Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 1 hour ago, MGLCFC said: Madueke, Pereira, Bailey or Barardi. You just know we'll sign one of them, and wished we'd signed one of the others after 10 or so games. Hope I'm wrong. You probably are wrong. We'll sign none of them and wish we'd signed any of them after 1 or so games... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 7 minutes ago, foxfan92 said: You probably are wrong. We'll sign none of them and wish we'd signed any of them after 1 or so games... You're probably right, the best I can see as it stands is a loan and that loan won't be any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: I just hope it doesn’t get to the stage where we’re submitting late bids and looking desperate or even worse, Arsenal put in a huge late bid for Maddison and we're left looking for a creative CAM + RW in the last week of the window Edited 30 July 2021 by turlo typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manders86 Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: I just hope it doesn’t get to the stage where we’re submitting late bids and looking desperate Ryan Bennett incoming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 30 July 2021 Share Posted 30 July 2021 4 minutes ago, turlo said: or even worse, Arsenal put in a huge late bid for Maddison and we're left looking for a creative CAM + RW in the last week of the window Absolutely no way we'd sell without a replacement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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