Dahnsouff Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 5 hours ago, Aus Fox said: I never get how booing, or campaigning like this are supposed to help the club or the player. Most players, if not all are are quite egotistical, if they get to PL level, they clearly have quite a bit of talent - if you want the best out of them, sing there name, praise them, massage their ego. There is not a single player who has improved after being abused or booed by their own fans. Agreed, most if not all of such actions have self-aggrandisement at their heart. It’s bullying, low key perhaps, but bullying pure and simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 4 hours ago, shailen said: Maguire has become a scapegoat as he is the captain of a club that could well be in freefall. No one talks about the other players not performing, but instead everything is about him and their fans are using his price tag as ammunition to shut him down! Disgusting behaviour really! Yep was saying this yesterday, he’s in poor form however as a centre back of the people in front of you are not running it’s a difficult job. there was an image about his position for one of the goals, it was terrible but also seeming there isn’t a midfielder anywhere near the playing passing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. James Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aus Fox said: I never get how booing, or campaigning like this are supposed to help the club or the player. Most players, if not all are are quite egotistical, if they get to PL level, they clearly have quite a bit of talent - if you want the best out of them, sing there name, praise them, massage their ego. There is not a single player who has improved after being abused or booed by their own fans. Booing is not intended to help the target, it is a sign that the booers have given up on the booee, it is a stage, coming after: mumbling, groans, comments, ironic clapping and cheering of a sub. Mobs need a focus and Harry fits the bill admirably for the empty heads, captain, expensive and visible - in the same way that a goalkeepers mistake often leads to a goal but multiple mistakes by a striker or midfielder are not so noticeable. Of course this is unquestionably bullying and nasty. Edited 22 April 2022 by J. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 8 minutes ago, J. James said: Booing is not intended to help the target, is a sign that the booers have given up on the booee, it is a stage, after: mumbling, groans, comments, ironic clapping and cheering of a sub. Mobs need a focus and Harry fits the bill admirably for the empty heads, captain expensive and visible - in the same way that a goalkeepers mistake often leads to a goal but multiple mistakes by a striker or midfielder are not so noticeable. Of course this is unquestionably bullying and nasty. Top marks for use of the term ‘booee’ 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. James Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 23 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Top marks for use of the term ‘booee’ 👍 Ooh ta, like to use nice words 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceredigion Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 Burnely missed a trick to improve their goal difference last night. When their 2nd goal went in I though this could be Southampton's annual 9-0 drubbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 24 minutes ago, ceredigion said: Burnely missed a trick to improve their goal difference last night. When their 2nd goal went in I though this could be Southampton's annual 9-0 drubbing. Hopefully waiting for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 6 hours ago, shailen said: Maguire has become a scapegoat as he is the captain of a club that could well be in freefall. No one talks about the other players not performing, but instead everything is about him and their fans are using his price tag as ammunition to shut him down! Disgusting behaviour really! Not really. It's not his fault but he just isn't good enough for the level that club expects to be at. We told them this when they tried to sign him initially. We all said we weren't too bothered about losing him. This is why. Does he deserve abuse away from the pitch? No. During a game though they're wise to let their feelings be known when it's a club thats been reported to field players on 'marketability' over actual ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 22 April 2022 Author Share Posted 22 April 2022 30 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: Not really. It's not his fault but he just isn't good enough for the level that club expects to be at. We told them this when they tried to sign him initially. We all said we weren't too bothered about losing him. This is why. Does he deserve abuse away from the pitch? No. During a game though they're wise to let their feelings be known when it's a club thats been reported to field players on 'marketability' over actual ability. Does, did Maguire have marketability? I'd have thought they could have found a more marketable defender for less than £80m. Even so no matter what his ability level abusing him on or off the pitch is more likely to make him less effective surely not or shouldn't be the the aim of any supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 2 hours ago, Col city fan said: Top marks for use of the term ‘booee’ 👍 I was going to show off by using it in my next Scrabble game, but it's not allowed, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, deep blue said: I was going to show off by using it in my next Scrabble game, but it's not allowed, unfortunately. English really is a wonderfully eclectic language. Edited 22 April 2022 by Dahnsouff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fox_up_north Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 A colleague is a United fan and a season ticket holder of 35+ years. He is absolutely disgusted with the current crop. He says the lot need a clear out or a kick up the arse. He'd only keep the ones brought through the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ARTY_FOX Posted 22 April 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 22 April 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, davieG said: Does, did Maguire have marketability? I'd have thought they could have found a more marketable defender for less than £80m. Even so no matter what his ability level abusing him on or off the pitch is more likely to make him less effective surely not or shouldn't be the the aim of any supporters. I think the love he had from the summer with England made them think he did have the marketability. The fact everyone else loved him whilst not setting the world alight with ourselves the season after didn't matter because 'he was going through the motions until his big move'. I dont agree with booing your own players personally. It really really annoyed me when some of our own narrow minded did it to Iheanacho. I do think though at a certain point fans should have their voices heard. It probably doesn't help every man and their dog come out and say 'well he did really well for England' despite the teams England were playing never really gave them any real defending to do. He just isn't good enough it's that simple yet they want to persist with him because they paid alot and its costing them. Even varane can't help the guy. Edited 22 April 2022 by ARTY_FOX 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelmofox Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 15 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: A colleague is a United fan and a season ticket holder of 35+ years. He is absolutely disgusted with the current crop. He says the lot need a clear out or a kick up the arse. He'd only keep the ones brought through the academy. I have a mate like this. However,my mate wanked himself dry when they made each of those signings. Listening to him after the disgusting amount of money spent on Sancho, and when Ronaldo came back, and how this was a magnificent team that just needed a good manager was nauseous. I presume another huge spending spree is due which will lead to more self love for the fans and tonnes of media hype. Great for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. James Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 1 hour ago, deep blue said: I was going to show off by using it in my next Scrabble game, but it's not allowed, unfortunately. I played an online scrabble game but the words it allowed were bizarre slang whereas it wouldn't allow certain actual real ones such as Jewish or Jew! I deleted it, dont need a PC game on my PC thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 We will need a reserve CB - maybe we could buy Harry back for £20 m …….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. James Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: English really is a wonderfully eclectic language. Oh i so agree i almost eclectricute myself with it on occasion. Try that one on yer scrabble game 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 22 April 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 22 April 2022 If they work out how to properly integrate him and he can adapt to the style of play, Haaland at the top of a Pep system could be fvcking terrifying. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: If they work out how to properly integrate him and he can adapt to the style of play, Haaland at the top of a Pep system could be fvcking terrifying. Allows them to play literally every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 6 minutes ago, KFS said: Allows them to play literally every way. Easier said than done, though. He's a much different player to someone like Thierry Henry or David Villa who very much fit in his systems at Barcelona in a way that made them interchangeable with the rest of the front 3 or 4. He struggled to work with Ibra and really couldn't get the best out of him there although I think it's far to say a clash in personality styles probably played a part. Ibra has been quite vocal about how Mourinho understood how to work with him far more. Since then I guess Pep has worked with Lewa in that outright 9 role and you could argue Lewa wouldn't be the force he is now without that time spent with Guardiola. It'll definitely be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He aint bald Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 27 minutes ago, J. James said: I played an online scrabble game but the words it allowed were bizarre slang whereas it wouldn't allow certain actual real ones such as Jewish or Jew! I deleted it, dont need a PC game on my PC thanks. In time we might have to state our prefered gender pronoun in our foxestalk profiles, as per a few of my you tube hangouts. Usernames might become a bit of a palaver too due too inherent patriarchal tendencies. That said, I think Harry could have been marketable, in that bit of rough catagory, if he had been able to make a better impression in a better Man U team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, J. James said: I played an online scrabble game but the words it allowed were bizarre slang whereas it wouldn't allow certain actual real ones such as Jewish or Jew! I deleted it, dont need a PC game on my PC thanks. Reminds me of: An English teacher asks 2 men called John and James to write a sentence describing a man with a cold in the past tense. John writes “the man had a cold” which the teacher marks as incorrect, James writes “the man had had a cold” which the teacher writes as correct. James’ correct answer had had a better effect on the teacher. In other words - James, while John had had had, had had had had; had had had had a better effect on the teacher Edited 22 April 2022 by Sampson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakemoore Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 This has to be a joke, right? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61188863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha Posted 22 April 2022 Share Posted 22 April 2022 1 minute ago, Jakemoore said: This has to be a joke, right? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61188863 Women's football bud. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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