Arkie Bennett Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Henderson, the thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 1 minute ago, whoareyaaa said: why is not a pen? if he doesn't handle it then it goes in His his knee first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Chelsea are very sore losers though when anything goes against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bats8711 said: The way players are allowed to approach, swarm, and even touch the ref without regard is really crazy. And get away with it. Edited 28 August 2021 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 1 minute ago, StriderHiryu said: Huge decision that. Surely not a red? Penalty sure, but I don't think he intended to do that? Agreed, penalty, yes, but a red is too harsh as it hits his knee first. Even so I’m sure Klopp will forget all about that later in the season when he talks about all the decisions going against Liverpool with that horrible self-righteous smirk of his. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 If it hit his knee and a stationary arm, fair enough, but he scooped his arm out to move the ball. Pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Surely common sense has to prevail though? It's a pen as a goal has been denied but Reece James does not deserve a red, it spoons up off his thigh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bats8711 Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Just now, Super_horns said: Abs get away with it. I have been working out - thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 5 minutes ago, Unabomber said: Never a pen that and he sends him off. Penalty yes. Red absolutely not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Maybe they should introduce penalty goals to football for these type of instances and keep it 11 v 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Just now, casablancas said: Penalty yes. Red absolutely not. Ok fine I give in it’s a pen. Why a red though? Seems dodgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 A penalty fair enough but a red card seemed a strange decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bats8711 Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 I honestly don't know what the rules of the game state there. But what that should be IMO is exactly that - an awarded goal, and that's that. It's obviously not intentional, but it also probably kept a goal out. So count the goal and keep the player on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 If it hits another part of the body before the arm I don't think you can call it deliberate. He wasn't punching that off the line. Fortunate penalty and Chelsea now ruing those chances earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 i HOPE rudiger gets sent off. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Just now, Unabomber said: Ok fine I give in it’s a pen. Why a red though? Seems dodgy It’s not a red in my eyes. Come off his leg so had no chance. I guess it’s the whole ‘goal scoring opportunity’ I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 When Killer Alonso et al were crowding the ref before the penalty, to delay the taking of it, he should have booked them. Then he should have booked those guys in his face after the penalty. Grow some baws, ref. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Maybe they should introduce penalty goals to football for these type of instances and keep it 11 v 11. What a good idea. Far too rational and sensible to be approved though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Proper grey area. Should never be sent off for something like that but if the rules says handball on the line is a red I guess he has to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said: Maybe they should introduce penalty goals to football for these type of instances and keep it 11 v 11. I wouldn't be against some experimentation around ideas like that, because sending offs kill games. I think Ayoze's one against West Ham was another example, definite red, but he never meant it. So give West Ham a penalty or something (I know the challenge wasn't in the box, but still) and then keep it 11 vs 11? I'm not supporting either team in this match, but that seems so harsh to send a player off just for trying to defend. VAR did its job and gave the penalty, the double jeopardy seems over the top here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderHiryu Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Just now, RowlattsFox said: Proper grey area. Should never be sent off for something like that but if the rules says handball on the line is a red I guess he has to do it. Yep that's the correct answer. By the letter of the law it is a red card. A referee mate has just said the same to me! So in this case, it's the rules that should be questioned not the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 If that wasn't on the line I don't think they give the penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Shep Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 Truthfully I can’t stand Liverpool so I can’t really be impartial in this debate, all I will say is cheating scouse favouring ref barstool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 looking at the replays at half time seems the arm swing is after the ball hits his arm, still don’t understand why the ref has called it on a freeze frame tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 28 August 2021 Share Posted 28 August 2021 It’s a definite penalty but not a red. It wasn’t a Luis Suárez at the WC situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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