Pliskin Posted 8 October 2021 Share Posted 8 October 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, The Bear said: Where do people draw a line in the ethical sand when it comes to where their club's money comes from? If Gary Glitter got out of jail and then headed a billion pound consortium to buy Newcastle do you think they would be celebrating in the streets? Yet his crimes are a drop in the ocean compared to the Saudis. Very true….. it is frankly shocking that the premier league even begun to entertain this idea. Furthermore they were satisfied that they were fit to run a club once the allegations of illegal premier league streaming was settled… It speaks volumes really, this takeover is a deeply damaging day for football, it simply proves that money is valued more than morals. This consortium have no place in the elite football world, their human rights violations, prohibiting of anyone connected to the LGBTQ+ community and appalling view on women’s rights should be enough to stop them. Empire’s forged on mud will eventually collapse, as will this…… the Wolves will gather at the doors before long…………….. (no pun intended) Edited 8 October 2021 by Pliskin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 15 hours ago, OntarioFox said: Might just go and start watching the Squid Game world championships instead. Less blood money involved. Lol.. forge fc mate I cant blame newcastle fans for feeling how they do. Ashley was a shit owner. Man city and other top clubs cant really complain they've had it good for a long time. I feel for the smaller clubs who must now think whats the feckin point? I know we have mega rich ownership but we arent even in the same class as the top clubs as it stands and we are in a much better place then half of the EPL. This will impact us long term and makes our win even more amazing. I dont see how any club outside of big 6 will ever win the EPL ( including us). The only way you can stop the madness is to implement hard salary caps (and other things) but that wont happen. Bet Pep is about to duck out the end of this season as he knows to get out before newcastle buys their title Enjoy those exhibition games in Saudi! Yikes. Or we can settle for a owner from china with shady links to Xi Jinping and the chinese communist party. Nothing to see here! Breaking news, the Devil has purchased Burnley....fittingly named team I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 The Newcastle deal ought to creat another serial title challenger... but it will take a while before they get to a level of regular euro football so that their money can attract world class players. What it does do is enhance the epl by providing a great sub plot. With Italian clubs and Spanish clubs being strapped for cash the epl is tbe place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 People seem to think that because Newcastle on paper are the richest club blah blah blah that they definitely will be throwing silly money at everything. Even Man City have missed out on big players in the past as they just couldn't stomach the numbers being banded about. My gut feeling is I think they're likely to become another Everton rather than a powerhouse of European football 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 I’m already sick to death of reading/hearing about Newcastle on pretty much every sports media outlet Whilst it may be better to increase the number of clubs that can compete at the top end on a sustained basis I just can’t respect that being attained on such a blatant money buys trophies basis I’d much rather see a West Ham or Southampton type set up be a new club to win the PL than one where it has simply been achieved by many many many pound notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKA Castroneves Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 Good time to return to this 😂 will art (a game) imitate life? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 (edited) There are some bizarre comments flying around everywhere. Like I said elsewhere, it's incredibly convenient to take the holier than thou moral high ground when its not your club. Though I should add that comments rejoicing while not acknowledging the human rights records dont sit right with me either. Edited 9 October 2021 by Nalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Farley Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 I think the biggest thing is that Newcastle are majority backed by an actual country as opposed to a wealthy group or family. Seems a bit odd, are there any other clubs owned by countries? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 6 minutes ago, Bob Farley said: I think the biggest thing is that Newcastle are majority backed by an actual country as opposed to a wealthy group or family. Seems a bit odd, are there any other clubs owned by countries? You could argue Real Madrid 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperEadem Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 German football fans laughing at this and our ownership models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 League is corrupt anyway. Why are people bothered now? No uproar when it was Man City or Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgefox Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 10 hours ago, Spudulike said: Just from a football point of view I can't say that I'm really bothered. As things stand we'll need the stars in alignment again to win the league anyway which is very unlikely to happen given it was probably a once-in-a-lifetime event. There's only so many elite players to go around so another money rich club will just dilute the pool and upset the others in that group. Makes it even more satisfying to have experienced 2015/16 and not to have an 'if only' chip on our shoulders. I was thinking exactly this re diluting the pool.SayDe bruyne,Salah,Van Dyke,Pogba left their respective clubs. How would you replace them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 9 October 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 9 October 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fox92 said: League is corrupt anyway. Why are people bothered now? No uproar when it was Man City or Chelsea. Because neither of those clubs owners are actively involved in the affairs and laws of their country…… Laws that make is a genuine danger to be a woman, member of the LGBTQ+ community and a complete disregard for human rights. None of us are suggesting that most PL clubs owners don’t have skeletons in their closets, there will be some in a storage room in a King Power building somewhere, but what we know is that most other owners are not actively making innocent people lives a living hell, or ordering people’s murder…… It is actually a very genuine concern the PL have allowed this take over, it’s morally unacceptable. I don’t know about other people, but I wouldn’t be bothered if it was just another oil tycoon because that’s the way the game is going, this one is different because the Saudi groups wrongdoings are active for us all to see, and that’s the worse part about the PL accepting the take over, in one hand they’re supporting an anti racism movement, and then in the next they’re supporting a completely unethical consortium of people who oppose the anti discrimination vision due to the state of such laws on their own country…… they’re quite literally contradicting themselves. Edited 9 October 2021 by Pliskin 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 Just now, Pliskin said: Because neither of those clubs owners are actively involved in the affairs and laws of their country…… Laws that make is a genuine danger to be a woman, member of the LGBTQ+ community and a complete disregard for human rights. None of us are suggesting that most PL clubs owners have skeletons in their closets, there will be some in a storage room in a Kind Power building somewhere, but what we know is that most other owners are not actively making innocent people lives a living hell, or ordering people’s murder…… It is actually a very genuine concern the PL have allowed this take over, it’s morally unacceptable. Hang on. I'm confused here. I thought Man City's owner is prime minister of UAE? Either way, even if I'm wrong there, that's still a Country where it's a danger to be a member of the gay community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 1 hour ago, Nalis said: There are some bizarre comments flying around everywhere. Like I said elsewhere, it's incredibly convenient to take the holier than thou moral high ground when its not your club. Though I should add that comments rejoicing while not acknowledging the human rights records dont sit right with me either. I don’t know, half our supporters are up in arms if one of the players gets a fancy new backpack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Will1981 Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 1 hour ago, Bob Farley said: I think the biggest thing is that Newcastle are majority backed by an actual country as opposed to a wealthy group or family. Seems a bit odd, are there any other clubs owned by countries? PSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 47 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Hang on. I'm confused here. I thought Man City's owner is prime minister of UAE? Either way, even if I'm wrong there, that's still a Country where it's a danger to be a member of the gay community. He has links to the royals in an advisory capacity, and naturally people on his position tend to work closely with their respective governments, however, the Saudi members of the consortium basically are the government in their respective country. The very fact that Newcastle are keep to point out that the kingdom of Saudi Arabia are a in a “non executive” position and only make up for a % of the consortium should be ringing alarm bells… the money isn’t an issue it’s everything else that sits behind. And it’s not just the LGBTQ+ community, it’s as many have pointed out their appalling human rights and view on women’s rights…….. And the small issue surrounding the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 I would rather be playing league two football than be taken over by Saudi Arabia 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vardinio'sCat Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 1 hour ago, Nalis said: You could argue Real Madrid Well, I know it was Franco's toy back in the day. Obviously that is not mentioned very often today, a bit like with the Santander Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 1 hour ago, Vardinio'sCat said: Well, I know it was Franco's toy back in the day. Obviously that is not mentioned very often today, a bit like with the Santander Bank. I believe Real are still regarded as the kings club. Whatever that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 (edited) Can't believe that they passed the Fit and Proper Ownership Test. Am not convinced at all that the people managing the club now are clean by any means.. Mike Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank. Edited 9 October 2021 by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 9 October 2021 Share Posted 9 October 2021 6 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Can't believe that they passed the Fit and Proper Ownership Test. Am not convinced at all that the people managing the club now are clean by any means.. Mike Ashley must be laughing all the way to the bank. There's no human rights check in the fit and proper test. Outside of their poor human rights, state sponsored murder and poor treatment of women and homosexuals, they are fine to own a football team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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