Fox92 Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 Just now, Cardiff_Fox said: Tbf it’s exactly what Man City did and it worked. Three years of some pretty run of the mill signings and manager. Then unleash Mancini and the step up in player. It gave them the core of Kompany etc to build an actual proper team from them Exactly what I meant. Signing Barry, Given etc who were good players at that time but now they can sign better. People were talking as if they're gonna be a force overnight and my point initially was that it ain't gonna happen. I'm still on the fence in terms of this "project" working out in the long term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsJohnMurphy Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 12 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Exactly what I meant. Signing Barry, Given etc who were good players at that time but now they can sign better. People were talking as if they're gonna be a force overnight and my point initially was that it ain't gonna happen. I'm still on the fence in terms of this "project" working out in the long term. Peak Gareth Barry would be close to the Man City first team imho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duquesne Whistle Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: Exactly what I meant. Signing Barry, Given etc who were good players at that time but now they can sign better. People were talking as if they're gonna be a force overnight and my point initially was that it ain't gonna happen. I'm still on the fence in terms of this "project" working out in the long term. I think they'll be tapping up every unhappy player at the big clubs and tapping up every player who believes they should be playing for a bigger club than they are presently. Outside the established World class players, I think Newcastle will appeal as an exciting opportunity and will lure a significantly better quality of players than they currently have. It'll only take one genuinely World class player to think 'sod it, why not' and others will follow too. Money will talk to some players also. All of which means it's likely they'll line up with a pretty decent team next season after two transfer windows. We've secured 5th place for two seasons in a row, but positions 5 to 7 are far from certainties for any club. I think Newcastle could pretty quickly join us, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham, Everton, none of which, barring us, have been particularly consistent in fighting for those positions. That could happen next season, in all honesty. Of course, they could keep making bad decisions and delay any rise up the table, but they now have enough money to laugh off mistakes with their cheque book and buy another 5 defenders until they get it right, just like Pep does (great manager, but helped hugely by the money available). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 2 minutes ago, MrsJohnMurphy said: Peak Gareth Barry would be close to the Man City first team imho Agreed, I always liked him a neutral player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach0000 Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 2 hours ago, st albans fox said: By ‘they’, you mean ‘we’. U.K. companies make profits and pay taxes here. it’s a bit sh1t isn’t it …… but it’s the reality of politics and the way the world goes around. I guess football is big business - that ship has sailed and the consequence of this take over is that the fit and proper rules that now exist will be extended to encompass this. BUT, I’m pretty sure that this surely won’t be something that can actually be enforced with regimes that we have normal relations with. 2 hours ago, Charl91 said: Is it 'we'? Or do you know if peach0000 is willing to arm the Saudi regime? I know I'm not, it's just unfortunate that none of the government (which I didn't vote for) cares to ask my opinion. I don’t live in the UK so I’m a little bit removed from what the UK government does as my taxes don’t go to them etc. So I think they was a fine term for me to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 Gonna be crap when Youri rocks up at Newcastle as a free agent on about 600k a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 2 hours ago, Facecloth said: You mean 2 time premier league champion Joleon Lescott? I think that was his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 18 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: I think that was his point. Yeah I think we've sorted out our crossed wires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 1 hour ago, Duquesne Whistle said: I think they'll be tapping up every unhappy player at the big clubs and tapping up every player who believes they should be playing for a bigger club than they are presently. Outside the established World class players, I think Newcastle will appeal as an exciting opportunity and will lure a significantly better quality of players than they currently have. It'll only take one genuinely World class player to think 'sod it, why not' and others will follow too. Money will talk to some players also. All of which means it's likely they'll line up with a pretty decent team next season after two transfer windows. Think this is pretty spot on actually. They'll be hitting those players from mid table clubs wanting to try their luck at a "bigger" team likely to push upwards or your upper team players who get little game time. Would see Newcastle step up to upper middle table to continue their push. They have a lot of off pitch infrastructure to completely renovate before they're able to push too much. Training ground for instance is a massive one, Shearer on BBC said that had maybe got a bit of paint over last few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 10 October 2021 Share Posted 10 October 2021 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: Think this is pretty spot on actually. They'll be hitting those players from mid table clubs wanting to try their luck at a "bigger" team likely to push upwards or your upper team players who get little game time. Would see Newcastle step up to upper middle table to continue their push. They have a lot of off pitch infrastructure to completely renovate before they're able to push too much. Training ground for instance is a massive one, Shearer on BBC said that had maybe got a bit of paint over last few years. Yes they'll basically be in the market for the same players as Leicester but will be able to pay more on fees and salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 Sometimes think that he doesn't talk much sense at times as a pundit, but have got a lot of respect for Paul Merson in what he says regarding gambling. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58859342 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 Full credit to him. I've know a problem gambler and, personally, I see no reason for the industry to exist. I've never made a bet and don't intend to. It exists purely to exploit people. As he points out, it's also probably the most destructive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 I’m quite disappointed to see that we are one of the few clubs left in the league system to have a major betting sponsor. The industry is pure evil, total mafia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPV Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 1 hour ago, Wymsey said: Sometimes think that he doesn't talk much sense at times as a pundit, but have got a lot of respect for Paul Merson in what he says regarding gambling. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58859342 He did another great interview with Football Weekly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 47 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said: I’m quite disappointed to see that we are one of the few clubs left in the league system to have a major betting sponsor. The industry is pure evil, total mafia. Few ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Few ? I think they meant 'not to have' Unless they consider Forex gambling... dunno Edited 11 October 2021 by AjcW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 11 October 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 11 October 2021 Sterling and Coutinho as wing backs... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, moore_94 said: Sterling and Coutinho as wing backs... It's more likely they'll re-signing Mitrovic or and signing players such as Ben Arfa, Cavani and Willian; than them signing highly-rated players who are good at this level but also are at an age where they can offer more over time. Even though highly-rated players will, of course, be tempted by high-wage offers this new ownership will very likely provide; am sure they'll have to go to a club with genuine ambition and is managed well - and it's yet to be seen whether the club is, with regards to the latter. I'd be quite nervous if I was a Newcastle United fan, to be honest, with these owners. Edited 11 October 2021 by Wymsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 Seems manure fans are getting pi55ed off Maguire is being offered a new contract 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 1 hour ago, Wymsey said: It's more likely they'll re-signing Mitrovic or and signing players such as Ben Arfa, Cavani and Willian; than them signing highly-rated players who are good at this level but also are at an age where they can offer more over time. Even though highly-rated players will, of course, be tempted by high-wage offers this new ownership will very likely provide; am sure they'll have to go to a club with genuine ambition and is managed well - and it's yet to be seen whether the club is, with regards to the latter. I'd be quite nervous if I was a Newcastle United fan, to be honest, with these owners. I agree with you. Something just doesn’t seem right with it, a too good to be true scenario. Not to mention they’re in genuine danger of going down. Probably more hope than insight, but I can see it all unraveling for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 4 hours ago, moore_94 said: Sterling and Coutinho as wing backs... That defence is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 11 October 2021 Share Posted 11 October 2021 1 minute ago, pmcla26 said: I wouldn’t, they’ve got that much dough that it’s inevitable that they’re gonna get it right. Yes, but look at Mel Morris claiming to put around £200m of his own money into Derby and how they've fared.. Green isn't always greener on the other side etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duquesne Whistle Posted 11 October 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 11 October 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wymsey said: Green isn't always greener on the other side etc. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bird etc Edited 11 October 2021 by Duquesne Whistle 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 12 October 2021 Share Posted 12 October 2021 8 hours ago, Duquesne Whistle said: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bird etc You can't eat your cake and eat it etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 12 October 2021 Share Posted 12 October 2021 10 hours ago, Wymsey said: Yes, but look at Mel Morris claiming to put around £200m of his own money into Derby and how they've fared.. Green isn't always greener on the other side etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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