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Premier League 2021/22 Thread

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2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

So in a nutshell what you’re saying is that it is perfectly fine to personally abuse a person provided they earn a decent wedge and take on a high pressures job?

 

Its fine to dislike what Bruce has done at a club, I’m not saying he is a good manager… but does that mean that he deserves the personal attacks he has been getting, and his family? That’s all acceptable is it? 
 

In an age where we’re supposed to be understanding the impact of abuse on mental health, and treating people with respect, all of this is perfectly acceptable because he took on a job where he should have understood the pressure? 
 

So using that logic, if I visit a doctor with an issue, and they can’t find a solution for the issue, it’s fine for me verbally attack them, and wish them and their family dead? Because that’s a high pressured job where the desired outcome hasn’t been reached….

 

The sentiment that “he knew what he was letting himself in for” thus deserves to be personally abused because of this is abhorrent and is partly why we constantly need to remind people that this type of behaviour isn’t acceptable. 

Obviously it depends what you consider abuse as. Straight hate abuse, no. And at no point did I say harassing him, sending hate mail and horrid stuff being acceptable. Every club has a small vocal minority of mental cases. For a city that lives for the club I should imagine it's a tad larger than most.

 

What's weird is Pardew was equally disliked by the end. Made worse that he was clearly an Ashley mate and yes man. Yet none of this victimhood, his son didn't come out into the media talking about how worried he is for his dad. The pundits didn't go on about it blaming the fans and making him out as some saint. He goes to Palace, and like that loses his job and not a word, Almost as if this is some narrative built by his mates in the media. 

 

But fans have every right to voice their anger at the situation to the person who is personally contributing by his awful ability to that situation. That is the responsibility of the manager. He had a chance to show them his future plan (he didn't because he had none), he could of tried to bridge an actual relationship with the fans (he didn't). He gave players more time off than any club in the PL. By the end only Maximin showed any kind of sadness of his sacking. They had fights with him in training. The same things previous club fans suffered under him happened exactly the same at NUFC. He is a bad PL manager. EVERYTHING about his history tells us that. And so when you get LOYAL week in week out fans showing up to watch that dross, sitting watching thinking wtf, then listening to his dumb interviews... excusing another defeat because this is the PL and the PL is tough... Yeah they can get vocal about what he's doing with THEIR CLUB. 

 

Come on boss, you know the doctor analogy doesn't work. 

 

I'm not saying he should take abuse because he knew the task he faced before hand. Put it this way, Raffa dropped NUFC into the Championship. The entire stadium sung his name when they went down. Knowing the task should give you foresight into a strategy to make that task easier and a huge part of that is making a connection with the fans. You know how big the hill is. He was prewarned. I believe he wanted it to work when he joined. But everything after that is on him (not the abuse). 

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