Hoopla10 Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 8 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: Surely absolutely nowhere. It’s not even remotely offensive. Even ‘the referee’s a willy puller’ is more offensive. Surely the only way there would be actions is if there’s government pressure. Still, at least the police getting involved means it’s being seen by even more people. It's probably the stereo-type arab man wielding a bloody saber. It's not good seen objectively in terms of racism. The message is probably irrelevant because the straight imagery probably breaks a bunch of rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Cannot dispute the lower tweet. Turning into Pool on the Tyne with their needy victim hood. Piss poor look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 23 minutes ago, jammie82uk said: And one even thinks it’s a completely different country Ironic that he says 'we have to educate ourselves too' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 7 minutes ago, Hoopla10 said: It's probably the stereo-type arab man wielding a bloody saber. It's not good seen objectively in terms of racism. The message is probably irrelevant because the straight imagery probably breaks a bunch of rules. I see where you’re coming from, but a lawyer should argue for that to be offensive it would have to represent all Saudis, rather than just the one man pictured, Salman, who is known for overseeing beheadings anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Mendy has to be up there as one of the best keepers in the world. He has everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 7 minutes ago, when_you're_smiling said: I see where you’re coming from, but a lawyer should argue for that to be offensive it would have to represent all Saudis, rather than just the one man pictured, Salman, who is known for overseeing beheadings anyway. I know, I agree. Especially as it specifically has PIF written on him. But I think it's a bit like that anti-capitalist street mural Corbyn got done for tweeting about. Before it was taken down. The representation of the wealthy men that rule the world playing monopoly with our lives, one was Jewish (not a stereotype) and another was Arabic (it had a Russian and American etc in it as well). It didn't matter about the artist's ideological background (steeped in anti-capitalism and no antisemitism/racism) or the mural's meaning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 If that banner doesn’t trigger legal action, every set of fans in the country should be ‘loaned it’ by Palace fans for the game against Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 1 hour ago, Hoopla10 said: I know, I agree. Especially as it specifically has PIF written on him. But I think it's a bit like that anti-capitalist street mural Corbyn got done for tweeting about. Before it was taken down. The representation of the wealthy men that rule the world playing monopoly with our lives, one was Jewish (not a stereotype) and another was Arabic (it had a Russian and American etc in it as well). It didn't matter about the artist's ideological background (steeped in anti-capitalism and no antisemitism/racism) or the mural's meaning. Russians and Americans? It was about bankers and the ruling class elite. The depiction of the two Jewish bankers was an issue in that they were heavily stereotyped in appearance. And a third of the people the artist wanted to show in a poor light were Jewish. I can appreciate the general point the artist wanted to make but he let himself (and more importantly, the artwork) down. the poster needs to have the sword removed - then it surely can’t be considered racist ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 State of these twats. : https://www.redcafe.net/threads/norwich-city-what-is-the-point.466396/page-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 20 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: State of these twats. : https://www.redcafe.net/threads/norwich-city-what-is-the-point.466396/page-3 They've got a point no? It's a waste of time each time they get promoted recently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 1 minute ago, Stevosevic said: They've got a point no? It's a waste of time each time they get promoted recently If they are doing their best, then no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 30 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: State of these twats. : https://www.redcafe.net/threads/norwich-city-what-is-the-point.466396/page-3 7 minutes ago, Stevosevic said: They've got a point no? It's a waste of time each time they get promoted recently Norwich are a strange one because they can stick with Farke and be what they are or replace him and become either a Burnley Crystal Palace type if things go well / a mid table championship side if it goes wrong. Its odd to say but what they are doing is probably offers an element of stability for a club of their size and investment rather than the potential risk of what I've mentioned in my first para. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopla10 Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: Russians and Americans? It was about bankers and the ruling class elite. The depiction of the two Jewish bankers was an issue in that they were heavily stereotyped in appearance. And a third of the people the artist wanted to show in a poor light were Jewish. I can appreciate the general point the artist wanted to make but he let himself (and more importantly, the artwork) down. the poster needs to have the sword removed - then it surely can’t be considered racist ?? I didn't remember the specifics, I just remembered the incident. I don't remember two Jewish men represented. If that's the case, bad example, I apologize. I guess, but I still think the steroetype image of an angry Arab man kills it. It's feeding into the stereotype ad trope even with the initial written on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Soucek should be off for that. Studs in the thigh on Hojberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Kane is properly phoning it in this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 24 minutes ago, ttfn said: Kane is properly phoning it in this season. Nuni's style of football will give him the perfect excuse, too. Need Liverpool to win this- table looks very tight from 4th to 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 West Ham look good for European football again I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Hats off to David Moyes, I had written him off as one of those merry go round managers but credit where credits due he’s got West Ham playing well and proving last season was no fluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Not sure which team I want to lose most. Two horrible clubs with fans to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 scousers 1 up after 4 mins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 1 nil Liverpool already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Spudulike said: Not sure which team I want to lose most. Two horrible clubs with fans to match. Man U, IF we have any top four hopes they will be the ones left behind by the other three to catch Edited 24 October 2021 by foxes_rule1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Martin Tyler just said “they’ve rolled out the booster” **** me what a weirdo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Liverpool are too good going forward. Absolutely out of this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacemunky Posted 24 October 2021 Share Posted 24 October 2021 Notts County level defending there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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