blockheadder Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 2 hours ago, Finnegan said: Comparisons between Leicester and West Ham are redundant (in the context of "will they win the league") because 15/16 and 21/22 are incomparable. In many ways, it'd quite frankly be more impressive if they won it this year (which they can't and won't) than when we won it. I never bought entirely in to the "league was weak" when we won it and no doubt that wouldn't have been thrown in Arsenal or Tottenham's faces had they been champions but there's absolutely no denying that the top three are freakishly, freakishly strong this year. One of Liverpool, Chelsea or Man City could theoretically have a bad year (look at Liverpool last year) but its practically impossible for them to all drop enough points that anyone from 4th downwards can catch them. I don't say any of this to disrespect West Ham or our own title win but this is maybe the most out of touch three teams have ever been from the rest of the Premier League. It's like putting Juve, Bayern and PSG in the SPL. But Palace just beat Man City, as did Spurs, and So'ton drew. West Ham did L'pool whilst Brighton and Brentford got a draw. Chelsea drew with Burnley, and squeaked by Brentford. West Ham aren't showing any fear of any team, and dumped both Manchester teams out of the league Cup. This big 3 are dropping points against mid table teams and against each other. They might play dominant football but they're not invincible, and if West Ham bar Ogbonna, can keep their team together and fit they might keep up. I'm not saying West Ham will win the league, but the big 3 are certainly not out of touch....yet. And I'll continue to enjoy West Ham this season, and hope they join us in sticking it to the Sky 6 every now and then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 16 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: All this talk of West Ham, didn't Watford start a season like this not long ago and people were talking of them "Being the next Leicester" Fair play to them absolutely, but blimey we are 11 games in and will almost certainly suffer injury/suspension problems like the rest of us. Pleased for David Moyes though, taken dogs abuse over the years so fully deserving of the positive attention he's getting now Or when people were talking about who Burnley would get in their Champions League group when they were fourth overnight after a few games once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 West Ham are not overachieving rather they have underachieved for far too long. They are in a huge catchment area of East London and Essex with little opposition. They should be just as big as Tottenham and Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: West Ham are not overachieving rather they have underachieved for far too long. They are in a huge catchment area of East London and Essex with little opposition. They should be just as big as Tottenham and Arsenal. West Ham are probably the biggest underachievers in league history, considering the players they have had, but they are overachieving atm (when you consider Man City and Chelsea have spent £100m+ again). Good luck to West Ham, they won't win the league but I hope they do. Always nice when it's not a "big club". Edited 9 November 2021 by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 44 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Yes I knew as soon as I started the post I had hoped with my New Parks wit & wisdom..I had got through and a chink of civilisation had stroked your shoulder and the light had got through...but I see the dark forces of Bayern are still within you...But you are worth saving..so I will not cease to help you through this dark phase... If it helps after I left I stopped pretending to like bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonezy Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 I just love its called 'doing a Leicester'. Now Ogbonna will be injured for a while, so curious to see how strong the West Ham squad really is. When we did 'the Leicester', we were blessed with minimal injuries and no european sidetracking. I am all for West Ham challenging the big guys, when we apparently are not able to though. Still Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool all look scary strong despite a few hiccups here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 1 hour ago, EastAnglianFox said: All this talk of West Ham, didn't Watford start a season like this not long ago and people were talking of them "Being the next Leicester" Fair play to them absolutely, but blimey we are 11 games in and will almost certainly suffer injury/suspension problems like the rest of us. Pleased for David Moyes though, taken dogs abuse over the years so fully deserving of the positive attention he's getting now And even West Ham didn't appreciate him properly in his first stint there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 3 hours ago, Facecloth said: 🤨 It's great how much they are struggling with their mate being in charge and underperforming. If it's Unai Emery at Man United they are going all out for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 I've no issue whatsoever with West Ham doing well. My only gripe is that I look at their squad and I look at ours. Both pretty good squads, but I'd take ours every time if I had to choose. They seem so far ahead of us though, it makes me feel like we are massively underperforming. We should be going toe to toe with them in a fight for that 4th Champions League spot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 1 hour ago, Jonezy said: I just love its called 'doing a Leicester'. Now Ogbonna will be injured for a while, so curious to see how strong the West Ham squad really is. When we did 'the Leicester', we were blessed with minimal injuries and no european sidetracking. I am all for West Ham challenging the big guys, when we apparently are not able to though. Still Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool all look scary strong despite a few hiccups here and there. They were doing just fine with Dawson before. Not sure this will set them back much. In truth the only 2 that would really hurt them would be Cresswell and Rice. They are covered in other areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howie Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 2 hours ago, EastAnglianFox said: All this talk of West Ham, didn't Watford start a season like this not long ago and people were talking of them "Being the next Leicester" Fair play to them absolutely, but blimey we are 11 games in and will almost certainly suffer injury/suspension problems like the rest of us. Pleased for David Moyes though, taken dogs abuse over the years so fully deserving of the positive attention he's getting now Same with Southampton last season when they were a couple of points off top after 11 games. Once the injuries piled up they dropped away. I can’t see West Ham finishing top 4 as they don’t have enough goal scorers. I think they will end up worse off than last season’s 6th place which was an overachievement imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 5 hours ago, TJB-fox said: How Leicester would It be to win the league in the greatest fairytale of all time then bleeding west Ham come along a few years later and do the same I keep fearing this with every time a player goes on a run of a few games scoring. Was convinced Salah was going to take it. Would be genuinely gutting to lose that so soon. We need that for at least 15 years. Then the record dies against someone average and you appreciate how mad what he actually did was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 4 hours ago, MonmoreStef said: Liverpools bench is a million miles behind the other top sides. Bringing on Minamino when chasing a game on Sunday isn’t like looking at your bench and seeing a Grealish, Mahrez or even a Rashford on it. Yep. They're also shipping quite a few goals this season as well - good stat I heard yesterday was something like in 2019/20 they only let in 2+ in a game once before that Watford game at the start of March. This season it's happened 6 times already in all comps. You can get at Liverpool. Van Dijk is still great, but I don't know if he's quite at the level of before - pre-injury he was as good as any centre half as I've seen in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 If West Ham could do it I’d be delighted for Moyes and their fans. It would be an incredible achievement. However in reality it is only a remote possibility and many things would have to align, as they did for us. Not impossible, but unlikely. I can’t see beyond Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City this season. They will form the top 3, but in which order I don’t know. Could be any which way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 4 hours ago, FoxFossil said: Wonder if we have a storming finish to the season and finish...5th. It doesn´t really matter does it -- we play awfully in Europe so being in CL would most likely have been a total disaster Im afraid.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 (edited) Sounds like Gerrard might be off to Villa, the dumb bastard. Edited 9 November 2021 by Dahnsouff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Sounds like Gerrard might be off to Villa, the dumb bastard. Villa must surely know that he will probably be off to Liverpool once Klopp leaves as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 Just now, moore_94 said: Villa must surely know that he will probably be off to Liverpool once Klopp leaves as well Yes, seems really odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 4 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Villa must surely know that he will probably be off to Liverpool once Klopp leaves as well Villa probably view it as, he'll have had to progress them in order for him to get the Liverpool job and that they'd take that occupational hazard as it helps them in the short term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 12 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Sounds like Gerrard might be off to Villa, the dumb bastard. 4 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Villa must surely know that he will probably be off to Liverpool once Klopp leaves as well 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Yes, seems really odd. Klopp isn’t going anywhere for a few more seasons villa are a great option for gerrard - they will give him plenty of backing and he can prove himself to the liverpool hierarchy who may have told him that winning the SPL won’t be enough to get him the gig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Yes, seems really odd. You act like Brendan wouldn’t do if they offered it to him again. He will have to do well to be considered, which if he has, is a success for them. So where’s the issue? Not like Klopp is going any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 Just now, Lambert09 said: You act like Brendan wouldn’t do if they offered it to him again. He will have to do well to be considered, which if he has, is a success for them. So where’s the issue? Not like Klopp is going any time soon If he fails at Villa he won’t get the Liverpool job any time soon. His stock was safe at Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: If he fails at Villa he won’t get the Liverpool job any time soon. His stock was safe at Rangers. Sorry, I thought you were saying its odd by villa, not by him. I think he probably wants to challenge himself. He has achieved what he needed to in Scotland and has done a magnificent job. I can understand why he'd take the move. Its actually a great job for someone, very similar to Brendan taking over us. Edited 9 November 2021 by Lambert09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: If he fails at Villa he won’t get the Liverpool job any time soon. His stock was safe at Rangers. He won’t get the liverpool job on the back of success at rangers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 9 November 2021 Share Posted 9 November 2021 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: He won’t get the liverpool job on the back of success at rangers Depends what he does in Europe for me. If he was to win he EL with Rangers for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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