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11 minutes ago, kristianity77 said:

Don't be bitter.  12 million for Trippier is a great deal, whether you like Newcastle or not.

 

It's a great bit of business and he's not mediocre at all.  He's quality. 

If he plays his part in keeping then I agree, it will look a very good deal. The bottom four look cut adrift from the rest at the minute, so it may just be a case of whoever finishes top of that mini league stays up. Burnley and Watford currently have games in hand but if they fail to capitalise then Newcastle with new additions may have enough to get out of it. 

 

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1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

 weird Newcastle fans. They've adopted the "everybody is out to get us" now.  Hope they go down.

 

  ... and in four words you have proved their point  :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, kristianity77 said:

Don't be bitter.  12 million for Trippier is a great deal, whether you like Newcastle or not.

 

It's a great bit of business and he's not mediocre at all.  He's quality. 

He's 32 later this year. 12m for a 30+ year old full back doesn't scream anything. Granted Newcastle need full backs, and he's an improvement on Richie (if he's gonna play left), but he's not "quality".

Still lives off scoring set pieces for England.

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4 hours ago, ren said:

I actually really liked Coutinho at Liverpool, hope he kicks on, but if he was still anywhere near his prime now he'd be in that poor Barca side surely? To be fair I've also just seen Barca will also pay a good chunk of his wages on loan as well.

Be an interesting one for sure.

He's 29. He just never fitted in at Barca. In a floating ten role he'd be perfect, but that's where Messi played, so he was deployed as a LW and with their ageing and inconsistent team he just never found form. I still think he has a lot to offer.

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2 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

An interesting ideal from Southampton but doubt it will get anywhere - particularly if it affects Newcastle - big club who the Premier league will back.

too complicated

will sold players be recalled?  (of course not)

what about players who are injured for the rearranged game?

what if players were suspended ?

what about players who were injured for the postponed game ?

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Valedictory articles on Ed Woodward from the BBC, ESPN and Athletic this week.  They are long and cover the same ground, but do provide insight on his failures.  Most interesting is their accounts of his role in the ESL --  because they totally differ.

 

The BBC and ESPN try to exonerate him:

 

It was the advent of European Super League that triggered his United resignation - he had been involved in numerous meetings over the previous two years but felt, as had always happened before, they would end up being used to pressurise Uefa into more concessions for the bigger clubs, was shocked when that turned out not to be the case and didn't agree with the proposals put forward. And he has a coherent stance on the current state of the game.

Along with senior figures at many of Europe's leading clubs, Woodward believes Fifa and Uefa have increasingly attempted to turn themselves into media companies, doing deals he does not feel they, as the regulator, should have any involvement in.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59898608

 

Sources have told ESPN that he resigned at United as a point of principle after being unable to support the ESL breakaway plans.  "He has friends who support West Ham and Leicester and he just couldn't throw his weight behind a competition that had no relegation and would leave clubs like that with no hope of ever competing at the top again," a source said.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united-engman_utd/story/4563234/manchester-united-failed-under-ed-woodward-heres-what-went-wrong-and-what-happens-next

 

In the Athletic, no desire to let him off the hook:

 

then, of course, came the plans for the Super League and more evidence that the people in charge at Old Trafford have no real understanding about what a football club means to its people, its community, its town or city.

That, ultimately, was why Woodward decided to start the long goodbye. He lost his nerve when it became clear the backlash to the Super League was immense. He was no longer in tune with the wishes of the Glazer family and perhaps, ultimately, he realised he was better trying to distance himself from a project that United, under his supervision, had championed and spearheaded.

Unfortunately for him, he already had his fingerprints all over a project that would have blown a gaping hole in the sport as we know it. Woodward’s reign has been synonymous with a series of bad decisions but the Super League was arguably the worst of the lot. And, professionally, it sunk him.

Does he forget that UEFA’s president, Aleksander Ceferin, referred to him and the Juventus chairman, Andrea Agnelli, as “snakes” and “liars” because of the clandestine way the plans were hatched?

https://theathletic.com/3044134/2022/01/06/ed-woodward-manchester-united-like-watching-beautiful-painting/

 

I am on board with the Athletic’s version.  He had/has regrets?  Let’s not rewrite history.  His actions at the time totally outweigh any regrets leaked long after the fact.

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