Tielemans63 Posted 31 January 2022 Share Posted 31 January 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OntarioFox Posted 31 January 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 January 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, goody2028 said: Everton signings are actually not as good as people are making out. I know right? This seems to happen every window. It's "ooh, that's a statement of intent from the Toffees", or "free-spending Everton a force to be reckoned with". They've spent hundreds of millions on dross, journeymen and bad eggs in the past decade, and the only genuine star they've unearthed was a bargain-bin youth signing from Sheffield United that seemingly flew in the face of the rest of their club policy. They're mired in a relegation battle precisely because of their continual failure to address the basics. Van de Beek stinks of another one of those classic Everton moves, albeit with the caveat of just being a loan move. I don't like to lean too heavily on stats, but for somebody so heavily hyped, his output for Ajax wasn't nearly as amazing as people make it out to be. He had a few golden games in the Champions League and one good season in a solid team unit, but otherwise his numbers for a supposedly world-class attacking midfielder are bang average. I kind of think it says more about Man Utd.'s transfer policy than it does about him - he came a season after they'd bought Harry Maguire from us for a world record fee and the media had done the world's greatest bout of mental gymnastics to declare him a world-class centre-back. The fans are disgruntled, the board are desperate. Signing a supposed wonder-kid is the sort of thing that would get the more shallow ones back on-side in the short term. But is he really going to hit the ground running in a midfield alongside Demarai Gray and (probably) Dele Alli, another classic Everton-type signing? Maybe Lampard actually can turn them around, but it really does look like square pegs in round holes once again for Everton. It would be delectable to see both them and Newcastle go down. Edited 31 January 2022 by OntarioFox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kopfkino Posted 31 January 2022 Share Posted 31 January 2022 2 hours ago, goody2028 said: Everton signings are actually not as good as people are making out. They’re really bad at spending money but they have still managed to spend money this season despite supposedly not having any money to spend. The scary thing with Everton is they might actually get it right sometime and we won’t be able to compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Everton are World class at over paying for the big clubs cast offs.Who unsurprisingly turnout to be crap.I would expect a Lampard bounce to be followed by it all going tits up.Clement just ring’s alarm bells to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 I remember talking to a Spurs fan in 2017 about how our title win was a fluke, and that Spurs would win a trophy before us, and that they'd sell Kane and Alli for a combined £300m. That went well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Let's slag off everyone else's purchases. After failing to sign anybody ourselves .... ..... .... It's all we have left 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Interesting window all around. As @Chocolate Teapotmentioned in another thread, not many players moving really that they don’t want. We obviously saw no value in anyone we tried to sign, so push on with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aus Fox Posted 1 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 1 February 2022 6 hours ago, Jobyfox said: Let's slag off everyone else's purchases. After failing to sign anybody ourselves .... ..... .... It's all we have left Given a choice between not signing anyone and paying £40 million for Deli Alli, I’m quite happy with our work. 15 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacamion Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 So what if the conversation goes off track a bit? We are in the middle of a break in Premier League football. Anyway, that transfer window made me dislike Everton and Newcastle that bit more. Sadly, I think Newcastle will climb, but I'd really like it to be at Everton's expense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: I remember talking to a Spurs fan in 2017 about how our title win was a fluke, and that Spurs would win a trophy before us, and that they'd sell Kane and Alli for a combined £300m. That went well. I honestly thought Alli would eventually sign for a top club. His first three seasons at Spurs were very good, especially for a player that had just come from League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 55 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Given a choice between not signing anyone and paying £40 million for Deli Alli, I’m quite happy with our work. 12M up front, and no doubt it only gets to 40M if Everton win the league and probably the CL too. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Really hope the Newcastle team don't gel and they finish 17th or lower. Doubt they'll go down but never say never. If Hodgson can get Palace to be a stable unit then he MIGHT (might) get Watford to survive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: I honestly thought Alli would eventually sign for a top club. His first three seasons at Spurs were very good, especially for a player that had just come from League 1. Genuine question. .Does anyone know what actually happened Alli . ? Was it the Mourinho effect or is there some other reason. As you say he had so much promise after his initial move to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post los dedos Posted 1 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 1 February 2022 31 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Genuine question. .Does anyone know what actually happened Alli . ? Was it the Mourinho effect or is there some other reason. As you say he had so much promise after his initial move to Spurs. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Not sure why Everton signed Dele and Van Der Beek, I'm assuming one would have to play wide in a front 3. In the short term, Its been pretty sensible from Newcastle really, signing players who improve them but signed players used to the league and won't take long to settle. Apart from the Bruno guy. They'll all be scrapped if they survive relegation of course but the likes of Burn and Wood will stay if they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterseddon Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 (edited) Never really been a fan of the January transfer window. Very hard to get value. So I’m not really disappointed about the fact we haven’t signed anyone. We have a lot of gaps in the squad at the moment but ultimately we can’t sign players on 3-4 year deals just to help us over 3-4 months, particularly when you bear in mind the training ground/stadium. Edited 1 February 2022 by leicesterseddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 I see Matty Longstaff has joined Mansfield on loan ! Wasn’t he really highly rated at Newcastle not so long ago . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 2 hours ago, Clever Fox said: Genuine question. .Does anyone know what actually happened Alli . ? Was it the Mourinho effect or is there some other reason. As you say he had so much promise after his initial move to Spurs. He fell off before Mou came in, Mou got a bit of a tune out of him then just dumped him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 2 hours ago, los dedos said: Excellent, I hadn't seen that before video before. thanks for bring it to my attention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 1 February 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 1 February 2022 1 hour ago, RowlattsFox said: Not sure why Everton signed Dele and Van Der Beek, I'm assuming one would have to play wide in a front 3. In the short term, Its been pretty sensible from Newcastle really, signing players who improve them but signed players used to the league and won't take long to settle. Apart from the Bruno guy. They'll all be scrapped if they survive relegation of course but the likes of Burn and Wood will stay if they go down. Everton's creative midfield options are absolutely atrocious. They are both players that at their top level are the exact sort of players you'd want in that area. Van de Beek is a risk free punt, no obligation to buy but a perfect opportunity for the player to prove he is worth the hype and I think he is personally. He'll be excellent but then again I also thought Davy Klaasen would be way better there than he was. Alli is a very fascinating case, there's plenty of red flags for this to be typical Everton but he's not a player who's nosedived because of injury and it being impossible to turn back time on his body. This is a mentality and possibly confidence and motivation issues that in some ways might be more complex to root cause than chronic injuries but at the same time shouldn't be completely out of the question in overcoming. This lad was devastating between 2015/16 - 2018/19. I hated him but respected his game, he was excellent. He needs the right manager to get him back on track and the penny has to drop with him. I've doubts of Lampard as a manager but as a man he may well lead Alli in to a renaissance individually. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 Van Beek loan signing is really daft. Man U will have another manager in the Summer who may want him involved. Everton will be fine from relegation with only the Cup to target. Everything suggests he’s back at Man U in July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 3 hours ago, los dedos said: That assessment and advice by Jose is a lesson for us all in our careers lol. “ demand more from yourself!” I think I’ll print that and put it on the bathroom mirror lol. so deli alley what you gonna do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbyburton Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 3 hours ago, los dedos said: This doc was a great insight into Dele Ali's personality and based on what was shown, I wouldn't put much faith in him living up to the potential he has unless something drastic happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 It’s a really odd case with Alli. He has all the ability in the world. When he burst onto the scene he looked to be a generational talent. I would guess he was given the keys to the castle a bit too early at Spurs in terms of money etc, killed his drive and motivation. Disrupted personnel changes can’t have helped either, seems like a player who really needs to be looked after by his coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 1 February 2022 Share Posted 1 February 2022 (edited) The Jose video is hardly a glimpse into what makes an elite manager that was all basic stuff & i'm sure up & down the country every manager has similar chats with their players, if this is all it takes then BR is elite in turning Maddison around after his slump & getting that tune out of Barnes pre-injury etc. Lot of people mocking Everton & Dele but i wouldn't be suprised if Lampard gets the best out of him & not because he's a better manager than Jose or Conte but because its a major change for Dele which is probably what he really needed, somewhere away to start fresh & re-invent himself. The fact that Lampard is English & understands what every english footballer thinks & feels growing up wanting to be a professional footballer in England & probably a player Dele looked on as a role model & wanted to emulate will help him also. Edited 1 February 2022 by BKLFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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