jammie82uk Posted 14 February 2022 Share Posted 14 February 2022 Apparently the rules are not confusing according to someone who knows the regulations and VAR operations Yesterday he says it was not handball and goes on to argue that it isn’t handball with several replies to different people seems he has a different opinion today in his VAR round up from the weekend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 14 February 2022 Share Posted 14 February 2022 29 minutes ago, Facecloth said: What did he say? 27 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Basically that because it wasn’t clear where the ball struck, that it was reasonable to stick with the on field call the two ex pros both said it was handball The usual defending of what most people think is wrong - even West Ham supporters who I know. Total bullshit. I think he also cited that because it was above the shirt arm line it was deemed to be ok - but might be wrong as watched it earlier and am still angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 14 February 2022 Share Posted 14 February 2022 11 hours ago, st albans fox said: Waiting for that knob Gallagher to justify yesterdays handball on sky sports …. He's actually a Leicester supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leicesterpool Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 18 hours ago, jammie82uk said: Apparently the rules are not confusing according to someone who knows the regulations and VAR operations Yesterday he says it was not handball and goes on to argue that it isn’t handball with several replies to different people seems he has a different opinion today in his VAR round up from the weekend For me usually I'd say theres nothing wrong with that goal as I'd say it's too close to call and would give the benefit of doubt to the attacker. However considering the goals we've seen chalked off for less. I mean shows lack of constancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonezy Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 That Dawson incident is just one of them, that could go either way, and we just do not seem to get a lot of those this season. Its frustrating, but lets hope for the good karma to return when we are playing better and really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 This has triggered a few people. I agree with Aguerro though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 Just now, Koke said: This has triggered a few people. I agree with Aguerro though. He's the best of the 3 for me too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain King Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 16 minutes ago, Koke said: This has triggered a few people. I agree with Aguerro though. Was always going to say his former teammate wasn't he? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 Lampard - Best goalscorer Scholes - Best player Gerrard - Best all-rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheFox Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 (edited) Expecting stick for this but life would be so much more straight forward if the handball rule was 'if the ball hits your arm, it's handball' like it is with your feet in Hockey. Edited 15 February 2022 by BenTheFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 30 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Expecting stick for this but life would be so much more straight forward if the handball rule was 'if the ball hits your arm, it's handball' like it is with your feet in Hockey. Please no ……hockey is terrible in the way that players try to play the ball against opponents feet rather than trying to actually go forward and score! and you are right to expect posts disagreeing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysalis Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: Expecting stick for this but life would be so much more straight forward if the handball rule was 'if the ball hits your arm, it's handball' like it is with your feet in Hockey. I actually agree, but I think of majority of footballs fans are against it as they think it would be abused to gain fouls deliberately. Edited 15 February 2022 by Chrysalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 2 hours ago, Koke said: This has triggered a few people. I agree with Aguerro though. Lampard gets knocked because he played for what was seen as a plastic, new money club. His record is phenomenal and the best manager in the world at the time picked him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 2 hours ago, BenTheFox said: Expecting stick for this but life would be so much more straight forward if the handball rule was 'if the ball hits your arm, it's handball' like it is with your feet in Hockey. I think for scoring goals 100%. For penalties it needs to be fine tuned, similar to now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmono84 Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 We just need refs to have some common sense and when they make a decision come and explain it after. Why can’t the ref say something like, I know what the rule is but for me that ball has hit Dawson on his arm and gone in so cancel it please. If he gives this explanation after I’m sure most fans would be fine about it. I can’t stand how they hide behind the letter of the law, use your discretion you useless yes men. No accountability for how bad the officials are in this country! Are other countries this bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 The problem with football is there's lots in rules that's can be interpreted differently. And any move to try and make those rules more fixed just brings equally as many problems as the multiple interpretation. I prefer it where we can look at each individual case and assess it. Imo in the Dawson case, whilst it might have hit the high part of his arm, rather than that being close to his body, he has flung it out and lead with it to propel the ball into the net. Its not just hit the top of his arm, he's hit the ball with his arm. That's where there needs to be interpretation allowed and that where VAR should be being used to help see these things better, but its not it's just bring used as something to hide behind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 13 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said: I think for scoring goals 100%. For penalties it needs to be fine tuned, similar to now. That’s the law now ….. or is that your point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BenTheFox said: Expecting stick for this but life would be so much more straight forward if the handball rule was 'if the ball hits your arm, it's handball' like it is with your feet in Hockey. Really bad idea for me. Would be very easy to be abused. Wouldn’t be long til managers tell attackers to start chipping it up at a defenders arm by his side on purpose from 1 yard away to get a guaranteed penalty. You’d probably end up with a sport which has 2 or 3 penalties a game and players who are good at chipping up to a players arm from 2 yards would become sought after. Even though it makes it subjective which does lead to dodgy decisions, the idea that a handball must be deliberate is definitely a good move. Edited 15 February 2022 by Sampson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 (edited) If its allowed im surprised more players dont try to score with the top of their arm. It would be quite effective no? Edited 15 February 2022 by Lambert09 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_danbury Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 why are utd playing today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 3 minutes ago, don_danbury said: why are utd playing today? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 4 minutes ago, don_danbury said: why are utd playing today? It’s a free midweek for games in hand so long as neither team is playing in Europe. We would probably be playing one of our games in hand vs Norwich or Everton too if we weren’t in the Conference League 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinterdream Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 21 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said: The usual defending of what most people think is wrong - even West Ham supporters who I know. Total bullshit. I think he also cited that because it was above the shirt arm line it was deemed to be ok - but might be wrong as watched it earlier and am still angry. It should be the whole ball or at least enough to not be in doubt should be within the sleeve for it nit to be handball. Ridiculous rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 15 February 2022 Share Posted 15 February 2022 Is the game on anywhere? I’ve looked on BT, Sky and Amazon… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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