Premier League 2021/22 Thread

[Sampson]

14 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

Refusal to play upsets folk. 

 

It's a personal response set against what we'd be doing in that situation. 

 

Also Mahrez is a bit of a whopper ain't he? 

Our fans love Peter Shilton, Lenny Glover and Frank Worthington though, all with far far rap sheets than Mahrez.

 

In almost any job, any of us would try to push for a better paid opportunity with more opportunities for success. Football has weird contract labour laws that in almost any other industry would be considered oppressive, meaning it’s much harder to that. Most of us would be able just to leave.

 

Football is just an entertainment leisure persuit, some fans are way to unhealthily obsessed and get way too weird about footballers actions and think that every footballer should be obsessed with football and their club they’re playing for, rather than just providing for their families like everyone else.

 

Football fans priorities are weird. I remember Dickov getting booed and dogs abuse in a cup game vs Blackburn, because he left us for Blackburn (in the PL after we’d been relegated). He wasn’t a Leicester fan but our fans seemed to demand that he must stay in the lower leagues on lower league wages.

Edited 31 March 2022 by Sampson

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

4 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

How has Maguire been disrespectful? Because his brother makes comments on twitter retaliating to the way our fans treat his brother? 
 

 Or seen anything from him personally doing anything remotely insulting towards us. Nor have I heard him  one out and slate us the way riyad has 

The way he made such a song and dance about what a huge step up it was for him when he went there, can't quote things was a long time ago but definitely remember him saying a few things in interviews after he signed that were him saying we were rubbish. Plus he is an average footballer who achieved nothing with is which is what my criteria is mainly based on. Mahrez is borderline world class who was pivitol in our greatest ever achievement. 

[Lambert09]

38 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

The way he made such a song and dance about what a huge step up it was for him when he went there, can't quote things was a long time ago but definitely remember him saying a few things in interviews after he signed that were him saying we were rubbish. Plus he is an average footballer who achieved nothing with is which is what my criteria is mainly based on. Mahrez is borderline world class who was pivitol in our greatest ever achievement. 

I’m not bitter to any of them to be honest. I also dont particularly want any of the 3 mentioned to do well… but that’s largely down to who they play for. 
 

had any of them gone abroad I’m sure I would have kept warmer feelings towards them. 
 

I actually thought maguire was quite professional and of course Man U is a huge step up. They are the biggest club in football. So it’s almost expected for them to make comments like that when joining. It’s just funny how much we got for him while we all know he was just  a bang average defender who had abnormal height and could pass a ball. 

[Silebyfox_89]

Any Leicester fan who boos a former player has a neanderthal mindset.

 

[FoxinNotts]

 You wot mate?

Edited 31 March 2022 by FoxinNotts

[Stevosevic]

Mahrez was class. Miss watching him in a blue shirt. 

 

Too many memories. 

 

 

[Finnegan]

7 minutes ago, Stevosevic said:

Mahrez was class. Miss watching him in a blue shirt. 

 

Too many memories. 

 

 

 

Yo, who's gonna tell him... 

[Stevosevic]

7 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Yo, who's gonna tell him... 

Obviously i meant royal blue 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

27 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I’m not bitter to any of them to be honest. I also dont particularly want any of the 3 mentioned to do well… but that’s largely down to who they play for. 
 

had any of them gone abroad I’m sure I would have kept warmer feelings towards them. 
 

I actually thought maguire was quite professional and of course Man U is a huge step up. They are the biggest club in football. So it’s almost expected for them to make comments like that when joining. It’s just funny how much we got for him while we all know he was just  a bang average defender who had abnormal height and could pass a ball. 

80m quid, that makes me smile almost as much as said mahrez step over against man City. Maguires struggles were almost inevitable with the pressure and expectations going in to a club so clearly toxic top to bottom, when he was only ever a decent defender. 

[theessexfox]

Some incredibly insecurity in this thread 

[tom27111]

Mentioned this in the 'Unpopular Opinions' thread...

 

To 99% of players, football is a job. They have no emotional connection to the club like we do. Even owners don't. 

 

@Sampson put it more more eloquently than me, but every single one of us would change job for better prospects and more money.

 

Maguire is captain of Man Utd, good move for him.

 

Mahrez has won loads and played in a Champions League Final.

 

Chilwell has won the Champions League. 

 

Kante has won everything.

 

Fair play to them all. As much as we hated them going, they've all justified it.

 

We made a load of money and got decent service out of them all too. You think they'd be at elite clubs if they were shite for us?

 

 

[Ric Flair]

25 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Mentioned this in the 'Unpopular Opinions' thread...

 

To 99% of players, football is a job. They have no emotional connection to the club like we do. Even owners don't. 

 

@Sampson put it more more eloquently than me, but every single one of us would change job for better prospects and more money.

 

Maguire is captain of Man Utd, good move for him.

 

Mahrez has won loads and played in a Champions League Final.

 

Chilwell has won the Champions League. 

 

Kante has won everything.

 

Fair play to them all. As much as we hated them going, they've all justified it.

 

We made a load of money and got decent service out of them all too. You think they'd be at elite clubs if they were shite for us?

 

 

Maguires move has been a disaster for Man Utd, he's won nothing and likely going to leave without having won anything either. He's doubled his wages though for 3 years and lived under constant pressure and ridicule, I'm sure it's been worth it. Players crave going to the elite to win things and carve their name in history, they don't however dream of being a laughing stock and their name be carved as the biggest waste of money in the modern era, he's a world record transfer for a defender for Christ's sake, its astonishing.

 

He'll end up at Newcastle and ironically might finally win a cup before he retires.

[FoxyLeon]

The same fans who want to hate on Mahrez, are those who love watching Albrighton 'Run around and get stuck in'.

People forget that Kante jumped ship before, yet somehow justify that because Chelsea met his release clause....That didn't mean he had to leave.

 

I think both were right to want to move on, Maguire couldn't turn down that opportunity either, and it's no surprise Tielemans wants to leave.

 

It's arguably more frustrating now as a fan, than it was before our 'success'. 

I feel we're just a half decent manager away from challenging the top 6 again....But also feel we're a summer of 'Rodgers recruitment' away from visiting the Championship in the next two years.

[coolhandfox]

Agents the big parasites in football 272m spent by PL clubs this season https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60949454

 

Arsenal	£18,652,818
Aston Villa	£9,557,054
Brentford	£3,499,285
Brighton	£6,244,039
Burnley	£6,005,185
Chelsea	£28,227,858
Crystal Palace	£8,865,483
Everton	£11,494,820
Leeds	£11,396,947
Leicester	£12,046,495
Liverpool	£22,136,224
Manchester City	£35,046,646
Manchester United	£29,036,141
Newcastle	£7,717,687
Norwich	£8,667,246
Southampton	£4,941,761
Tottenham	£13,938,231
Watford	£12,593,435
West Ham	£10,532,927
Wolves	£11,958,945
Total	£272,559,227

Edited 1 April 2022 by coolhandfox

[frakenfox]

I was unsure whether Mahrez would make it at Man City when he left us. Sure, he had the talent but it was the ethic and application I was unsure of. I felt he would have to work to make himself a go-to regular. Credit to him, he's done that. 

 

I don't think of him as anything other than a Man City player these days. He's a distant memory in our shirt now.

[21st Century Fox]

45 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Agents the big parasites in football 272m spent by PL clubs this season https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60949454

 

Arsenal	£18,652,818
Aston Villa	£9,557,054
Brentford	£3,499,285
Brighton	£6,244,039
Burnley	£6,005,185
Chelsea	£28,227,858
Crystal Palace	£8,865,483
Everton	£11,494,820
Leeds	£11,396,947
Leicester	£12,046,495
Liverpool	£22,136,224
Manchester City	£35,046,646
Manchester United	£29,036,141
Newcastle	£7,717,687
Norwich	£8,667,246
Southampton	£4,941,761
Tottenham	£13,938,231
Watford	£12,593,435
West Ham	£10,532,927
Wolves	£11,958,945
Total	£272,559,227

Christ, how are we spending more that Villa and Everton!!?

[StanSP]

6 minutes ago, 21st Century Fox said:

Christ, how are we spending more that Villa and Everton!!?

The agents may be different...

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, frakenfox said:

I was unsure whether Mahrez would make it at Man City when he left us. Sure, he had the talent but it was the ethic and application I was unsure of. I felt he would have to work to make himself a go-to regular. Credit to him, he's done that. 

 

I don't think of him as anything other than a Man City player these days. He's a distant memory in our shirt now.

He's improved (somehow) in his time there too. I think working with Pep has helped, as it has most of their players who have upped their performance under Pep's management.

 

The best managers get the best out of players and, in this league, Pep and Klopp are the best at it.

[Sampson]

10 hours ago, tom27111 said:

Mentioned this in the 'Unpopular Opinions' thread...

 

To 99% of players, football is a job. They have no emotional connection to the club like we do. Even owners don't. 

 

@Sampson put it more more eloquently than me, but every single one of us would change job for better prospects and more money.

 

Maguire is captain of Man Utd, good move for him.

 

Mahrez has won loads and played in a Champions League Final.

 

Chilwell has won the Champions League. 

 

Kante has won everything.

 

Fair play to them all. As much as we hated them going, they've all justified it.

 

We made a load of money and got decent service out of them all too. You think they'd be at elite clubs if they were shite for us?

 

 

Robert Huth has given a couple of great interviews since he retired where he's talked about what a relief it is since he retired. Saying he's hated to have to put up the macho banter in the dressing room, having to have it regimented what you eat, having spies sent out on you if you go on nights out, having to sleep with heart rate monitors on etc. And how he had to give up his formal education to concentrate on football in acadmies when only 1% of the people in those academies will ever make it.

 

Think he said, he enjoyed and is greatful for his career, but he realised how much of a bubble football is and how unimportant it is once he retired and that if you come through the academy system (it's different if you come through the lower leagues), you're brought through to become a dependent brainless person who's very specialised at football who gets everything done for you - player liason officers at clubs will do anything for you - split up with your partner for you, call your parents, fill up your car with petrol, take your dog for a walk, clean your house etc. and that's it. We've all heard the stories about how Rio Ferdinand or Phil Neville had no idea how to make a cup of tea or order flight tickets when they had retired and went to do it.

 

Think Huth was doing a university course back in Germany in Business and said while he enjoyed his career and was thankful for it, if he'd had his time again he'd have stayed in formal education rather than gone into football instead.

 

And Huth had a great career, compare that to the 1,000 players spat out by the system or who break their leg or get a bad injury early on and never make it, for every 1 player who has a good career. I never blame someone for trying to maximise what is a very short career. Mahrez, Maguire, Kante or Chilwell could've stayed at Leicester and then broken their legs and never played again 2 weeks later. We've certainly signed many players with a lot of hype who've essentially had their careers shortly ruined by injuries. Was reading about Peter Canero the other day, who Mickey Adams signed as "one for the future" who even got capped for Scotland just after we signed him, then had to retire at 24 due to injuries having played about 30 games in total after signing for us.

Truth is, as fans it's cliche to all say our fans would do anything to play for Leicester, but what we mean is we'd do anything to be good playing for Leicester and leading Leicester to glory and cup final wins. Not to be Josh Low or Peter Canero while growing up in a culture which does not value education and regiments what you must eat and what you can do in the rest of your life. And has people like Gary Neville moaning if you dare to go out for a meal with your friends or family a week after you've lost a football match (personally I'd be more likely to want to go out after a bad day in my job).

[Super_horns]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Agents the big parasites in football 272m spent by PL clubs this season https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60949454

 

Arsenal	£18,652,818
Aston Villa	£9,557,054
Brentford	£3,499,285
Brighton	£6,244,039
Burnley	£6,005,185
Chelsea	£28,227,858
Crystal Palace	£8,865,483
Everton	£11,494,820
Leeds	£11,396,947
Leicester	£12,046,495
Liverpool	£22,136,224
Manchester City	£35,046,646
Manchester United	£29,036,141
Newcastle	£7,717,687
Norwich	£8,667,246
Southampton	£4,941,761
Tottenham	£13,938,231
Watford	£12,593,435
West Ham	£10,532,927
Wolves	£11,958,945
Total	£272,559,227

No wonder we are a mess going by the reported latest accounts of very high debts .

 

 

[Tommy Fresh]

4 hours ago, pmcla26 said:

He would have done the same if he signed the contract we offered him. 

Yeah but he wouldn't have earnt x amount in bonuses etc 

[kingkisnorbo]

Maguire will go somewhere else, say a Newcastle or Villa, and he’ll be really good. I’m convinced a lot of it is to do with the fact it’s Manchester United and it’s a bit of a mess. They’ve even managed to make Varane look fairly average. 

[Tommy Fresh]

5 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

We offered him £20m over 4 years... that's still setting yourself up for life. But granted, yeah he'll have earnt more at Chelsea. 

Exactly, unless you thought a job would be truly horrific not many people would turn down earning a lot more elsewhere.

[murphy]

I can respect players moving on for ambition and trophies, however, the thought of players chasing moves to add a few more million to the squillions they already don't know what to with, makes me a little sick in my mouth.

 

 

[filbertway]

16 hours ago, tom27111 said:

Mentioned this in the 'Unpopular Opinions' thread...

 

To 99% of players, football is a job. They have no emotional connection to the club like we do. Even owners don't. 

 

@Sampson put it more more eloquently than me, but every single one of us would change job for better prospects and more money.

 

Maguire is captain of Man Utd, good move for him.

 

Mahrez has won loads and played in a Champions League Final.

 

Chilwell has won the Champions League. 

 

Kante has won everything.

 

Fair play to them all. As much as we hated them going, they've all justified it.

 

We made a load of money and got decent service out of them all too. You think they'd be at elite clubs if they were shite for us?

We sign players from smaller clubs who want to improve, so I'm not sure why people cry when the same players then want to move on when they've progressed beyond us.