fox_up_north Posted 17 July 2021 Share Posted 17 July 2021 If there's serious talk, I'd be somewhat surprised but he does seem a Rodgers type player. Not against it and he's clearly not being made use of at United, so I wouldn't judge too harshly on how he's performed under Ole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 17 July 2021 Share Posted 17 July 2021 2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said: He plays in Barnes position, he has shown very little on the RW. He would be ok but I would be very skeptical that he would be a good enough upgrade on Albrighton to actually bring us up a level. If we had a player of even Barnes quality on the RW, our whole attack would be very hard to stop. That's what we should be aiming for, and if they are a right winger that probably means a left-footer. Yea, I agree with both your point and @An Sionnach points respectively, and can see where you’re coming from. I guess the club might be looking at deploying him as a ball carrier? Our greatest success comes from that, Kante in the title winning season, Chilwell to a degree a few seasons back, and Castagne more recently. But I do agree, if I had a choice I’d rather us go for a more technical player. James won’t be coming anyway, United will now consider us a rival surely? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 17 July 2021 Share Posted 17 July 2021 23 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Yea, I agree with both your point and @An Sionnach points respectively, and can see where you’re coming from. I guess the club might be looking at deploying him as a ball carrier? Our greatest success comes from that, Kante in the title winning season, Chilwell to a degree a few seasons back, and Castagne more recently. But I do agree, if I had a choice I’d rather us go for a more technical player. James won’t be coming anyway, United will now consider us a rival surely? Surely that's what we signed Soumare for? Personally cannot see this as being a realistic signing. We don't need a left sided player, Man utd unlikely to sell to a rival (unless they can get a silly fee, which we would not pay), would probably have high wage demands after being at Utd and just does not fit with the style of play we seem to be aiming for. Not for me, but if we do go for him, then like everyone else that pulls on the shirt i would be behind him and at least give him him the chance to prove that he has what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 18 hours ago, urban fox said: Man utd unlikely to sell to a rival (unless they can get a silly fee, which we would not pay), would probably have high wage demands after being at Utd and just does not fit with the style of play we seem to be aiming for. We could win the treble 10 years in a row, and ManU would still never admit to themselves we were "a rival." James is being offloaded -- our wages are probably better than anyone else in for him (if we are, in fact, in for him.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 Fifteen pages on a right footed left winger we don't need is overdoing it a bit even in the height of summer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post majaco Posted 18 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 18 July 2021 14 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Fifteen pages on a right footed left winger we don't need is overdoing it a bit even in the height of summer. We've got off on the wrong foot. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 Where did this myth that James is exclusively a left winger start, anyway? 77 appearances at LW career, 60 at RW. 13 at right wing last season, 11 at LW. Do people bother to check this stuff or does everyone just believe the first bit of fiction somebody posts in a thread? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 1 minute ago, Deeg67 said: Where did this myth that James is exclusively a left winger start, anyway? 77 appearances at LW career, 60 at RW. 13 at right wing last season, 11 at LW. Do people bother to check this stuff or does everyone just believe the first bit of fiction somebody posts in a thread? Wherever he starts 6 goals in about 50 matches is simply not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxpleasure Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 8 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Where did this myth that James is exclusively a left winger start, anyway? 77 appearances at LW career, 60 at RW. 13 at right wing last season, 11 at LW. Do people bother to check this stuff or does everyone just believe the first bit of fiction somebody posts in a thread? How very dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 To be fair, I was under the impression he's barely played RW and when he does he's crap but looking in to it a bit more he's been the same on the right as he has on the left in his career, about half and half. Not that that means he's equally as good there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 56 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Wherever he starts 6 goals in about 50 matches is simply not good enough. Well it’s an improvement on players we currently employ in that position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: Where did this myth that James is exclusively a left winger start, anyway? 77 appearances at LW career, 60 at RW. 13 at right wing last season, 11 at LW. Do people bother to check this stuff or does everyone just believe the first bit of fiction somebody posts in a thread? If I didn't know better, I'd call you a newb and welcome you to Foxestalk Edited 18 July 2021 by majaco Text correct spoilt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 Don't rate him myself. Would need to improve a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 18 July 2021 Share Posted 18 July 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: Where did this myth that James is exclusively a left winger start, anyway? 77 appearances at LW career, 60 at RW. 13 at right wing last season, 11 at LW. Do people bother to check this stuff or does everyone just believe the first bit of fiction somebody posts in a thread? I wouldn't say that he is exclusively a left winger, just that he has performed better as a left winger than he has on the right, which is not what we need. Also those numbers include a good amount of youth appearances, in senior football the majority of his appearances have still been as a left winger, and it has also been where he has been most successful in terms of goals and assists. Left Wing - 55 games - 9 goals and 10 assists Right Wing - 39 games - 5 goals and 6 assists Striker - 4 games - 0 goals Attacking Mid - 9 games - 1 goal and 3 assists Man Utd bought him off the back of a full season of him playing at left wing for Swansea. All but 3 of his 24 Wales appearances have been as a left winger also (not included in the above stats). Edited 18 July 2021 by moore_94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Earle Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Telegraph report this morning that Man U want 'up to £25m for him'. Think that'd end our interest (if we ever had any). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXYTALK Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Prefer the loan option if we cannot afford to purchase outright. Pereira from West Brom for me. Similar to Under deal 3 mill loan plus permanent deal for 24 Mill. At least we know what we are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzanator89 Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Given that they paid £15m plus add-ons, they will be desperate to make some kind of profit on him. It hasn't really worked out for James, and I don't think we really need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Earle said: Telegraph report this morning that Man U want 'up to £25m for him'. Think that'd end our interest (if we ever had any). If true, that would end the interest of any club with an ounce of common sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Can see some midtable club paying max £15m but not a penny more. Still too many unknowns about his quality. Could kick on and be an exciting player WITH and a decent end product, or just as easily not develop that and drop down to the Championship eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Lets not forget the two man utd rejects that got us where we are today... drinkwater and James so id def take any potential from the mutd camp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 15 minutes ago, Simoken said: Lets not forget the two man utd rejects that got us where we are today... drinkwater and James so id def take any potential from the mutd camp. ...he did not come through their academy!!! They picked him up from Swansea, and want to recoup their money with the, "played for Man U" premium thrown in. They have tried to develop him into a certain type of player, but it obviously has not worked, and they are now cutting their losses. As I previously said, the only time I have seen him play well, and I felt we had made a mistake in not picking him up was, when he first went to United. He played on the left and looked an absolute handful. It looks like the edge has been taken off him and he is not the same player anymore. He could do a job at a new club, on the left and playing a direct role without the link up play and drifting centrally to aid United's fluidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamfox Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 (edited) Kids got potential, lightning quick but end product TBC could end being decent but not champions league top draw bit like Jeff Schlupp, but could a great buy, Id say he is worth a gamble at the 15 / 20 m point for a lot of EPL clubs but not sure we really crying out for these attributes in his positions Edited 19 July 2021 by jamfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 His pace would suit us, as I feel we at times last season without Barnes and Justin we lacked thoss explosive attacks. But you need more than just pace and Soawh will give us that option now as well. I'm torn on James, a loan deal I'd be relatively happy with though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 Ideally every player in the PL squad should have a specific role , some more than others maybe , but players like Mendy ,Praet , Amartey and Hamza should know exactly what Rodgers wants before he uses them. In a tight squad we can't really afford players who are there " just in case " .I feel that James is that sort of player. He would be unused most of the time on a high salary. We don't really need that. It is still Pereira for me , if we can afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 19 July 2021 Share Posted 19 July 2021 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: His pace would suit us, as I feel we at times last season without Barnes and Justin we lacked thoss explosive attacks. But you need more than just pace and Soawh will give us that option now as well. I'm torn on James, a loan deal I'd be relatively happy with though. He is probably on our list as a potential loan deal late in the window, if we can't manage to get our primary target(s) He's certainly not as bad as some are making out. He just needs to work on consistency but his pace will always be a threat. This will probably be a case of hoping for more, but giving a deal/player like this a chance to step up and fill a gap we need filling if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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