Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I think we need to mix up the central midfield, as it’s become a bit turgid and stale. KDH showed last night he’s worth a punt in the league to see what he can do - also other teams won’t know him and that’s always an advantage.

[Pliskin]

KDH effort can’t be moaned about. I think he will come good, he just needs to find his rhythm in this team and I reckon he will end up being a proper lad for us. Plus his pegs make Grealish’s look like a pair of matchsticks. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

3 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

I know people want him to start but I'm still to see anything better than what we've got out there. Jury out for me whether he makes it here.

 

Very left footed and gave the ball away a lot with some simple passes. Good energy and a great tackle though.

 

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Exactly my thoughts but I thought I was in the minority.

 

Some of the balls he gave away were so obvious.

Yes exactly. Let's not overrate him. He came on, looked average, and did a job, nothing more, when the game was already won. He will naturally be over rated because he came through the academy. I've not seen any evidence he's good enough to be starting games for us, or ever will be at this level. Don't see why it's so heinous to say that and it doesn't mean he won't go on to improve of course.

[Langston]

3 hours ago, Stadt said:

I think it'd be interesting how perceptions would differ if we'd paid 22m for KDH and Soumare had came through the academy. It's misconception we cut home-grown players more slack

 

Yep, if anything we're very quick to belt out the "needs a loan to The Championship" rhetoric as if that's a panacea for a blip in a young prospects form with us.

[fuchsntf]

58 minutes ago, MalletFox said:

What formation are you playing with those lot in your team??? 

  To understand ,playing the players who One summises, will deliver performance-potential we Hope they will/can.

    Just for fun...  

 

                             Kasper

                Justin   Fofana  Soyuncu

              

                             Ndidi

             Soumare   KDH    Barnes

                           Maddison

                     Nacho.       Vardy

 

This is why, I Dont get £5 mill..like Some managers do...

 

                    

[KFS]

He also fvcking loves Leicester 

[SpacedX]

1 hour ago, Scotch said:

I personally like him. He's willing to try the difficult pass. Only Youri does that and I'd much rather him try it and lose possesion than pass it back to Kasper for  him to knock the ball out of play...

He's also confident driving play forward and running at a defence. Looks a very promising prospect to me.  

[weller54]

I don't like the Soumare/Ndidi combo, just doesn't work.

Give KDH a run in the side now. It's time.

[Ric Flair]

4 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

DKH done ok last night but he's not ready for the Premiership quite yet.

I think both he and the Club would have been better served by a loan to a top Championship Club.

The area where DKH is better than Soumare is his understanding of the Game. Along with an attacking instinct. Which is what we need right now.

 

Soumare has a lot to learn about positioning when to stay and when to go. 

Going forward though I think Soumare may have more uplift to his career.

You're not the first to think Soumare has a higher potential at becoming an attacking midfielder but the stats are blatantly obvious that it's highly unlikely. The lad has 1 goal and 3 assists in about 150 first team games, which is diabolical. 

 

@Arriba Los Zorros is more than happy to dismiss KDH's potential and over reach on Soumares but the way I see it, both have been equally erratic so far for us and yet one has been given a lot more football which is why many are calling for KDH to get a chance surrounded by our first XI as opposed to being part of heavily rotated teams in the cups.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, weller54 said:

I don't like the Soumare/Ndidi combo, just doesn't work.

Give KDH a run in the side now. It's time.

Same, it's not working yet which is annoying as that was surely the plan for us to be more robust against certain teams. Let's hope in time it does as we have never been able to find that midfield blend when we need to win the midfield battle first and foremost.

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

 

Yes exactly. Let's not overrate him. He came on, looked average, and did a job, nothing more, when the game was already won. He will naturally be over rated because he came through the academy. I've not seen any evidence he's good enough to be starting games for us, or ever will be at this level. Don't see why it's so heinous to say that and it doesn't mean he won't go on to improve of course.

 Wrote him off and then given yourself a little get out at the end, nice one

[Arriba Los Zorros]

1 minute ago, filbertway said:

 Wrote him off and then given yourself a little get out at the end, nice one

It's in the interests of fairness. I don't rate him CURRENTLY but it's not like he's reached his prime. He's still a young player and lacks PL experience which will improve him (see Like Thomas). Well done though 1 point to you 🙄

[weller54]

5 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

DKH done ok last night but he's not ready for the Premiership quite yet.

I think both he and the Club would have been better served by a loan to a top Championship Club.

The area where DKH is better than Soumare is his understanding of the Game. Along with an attacking instinct. Which is what we need right now.

 

Soumare has a lot to learn about positioning when to stay and when to go. 

Going forward though I think Soumare may have more uplift to his career.

Dewsbury Keirnan-Hall deserves his chance.😎

[Foxxed]

We did seem a bit more fluid in midfield with him on. The guy needs minutes. It took a season for Barnes to come good.

[Jimmy]

6 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

I have no doubt he’s going to be an excellent signing. There’s just going to be a period of adaptation, there usually is with most players from France as the game is so different. I look at Sanson, veretout, ndombele, Pepe... all fantastic in France but struggled to make an impact. 
 

Soumare is young enough to adapt and clearly has the physical attributes. It’s a head space at the moment 

 

actually the pundits say the French league is just as physical and the Prem, the prem is just played much quicker

[Lcfc-1992]

Love him to start Sunday, seems to add abit more energy into the midfield. If not, he could get his chance against Southampton to keep everyone fresh. 

[sacreblueits442]

8 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

DKH done ok last night but he's not ready for the Premiership quite yet.

I think both he and the Club would have been better served by a loan to a top Championship Club.

The area where DKH is better than Soumare is his understanding of the Game. Along with an attacking instinct. Which is what we need right now.

 

Soumare has a lot to learn about positioning when to stay and when to go. 

Going forward though I think Soumare may have more uplift to his career.

....you keep posting "DKH" as opposed to KDH.....!!!

[Clever Fox]

3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

You're not the first to think Soumare has a higher potential at becoming an attacking midfielder but the stats are blatantly obvious that it's highly unlikely. The lad has 1 goal and 3 assists in about 150 first team games, which is diabolical. 

 

@Arriba Los Zorros is more than happy to dismiss KDH's potential and over reach on Soumares but the way I see it, both have been equally erratic so far for us and yet one has been given a lot more football which is why many are calling for KDH to get a chance surrounded by our first XI as opposed to being part of heavily rotated teams in the cups.

I wasn't thinking of him in terms of a goal scoring midfielder. I was merely stating that I think he has more upside to his career. The reason I say that is he's 22 and had very little Coaching, at least of a high standard. Compare that to KDH who's here since he was 8 years of age.

I would have expected him to make a breakthrough before now. Unless of course he's a late developer.

As I said he done ok last night against moderate opposition without excelling.

He needs to get out and get more experience at a club preferably challenging at the top end of the Championship.

Otherwise he'll end up like Choudary. playing a bit part here or there. Which is no good for wither of their careers.

[Clever Fox]

5 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....you keep posting "DKH" as opposed to KDH.....!!!

I know despite knowing his name is Kieran Dewsbury Hall.

 

That's what getting old does to you.

 

[ARM1968]

Right. Time to stop drinking. Popped in. Thought who the fuch is Karen Dewsbury Hall!!

 

Night night good folks. 

[sacreblueits442]

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

You're not the first to think Soumare has a higher potential at becoming an attacking midfielder but the stats are blatantly obvious that it's highly unlikely. The lad has 1 goal and 3 assists in about 150 first team games, which is diabolical. 

 

@Arriba Los Zorros is more than happy to dismiss KDH's potential and over reach on Soumare's but the way I see it, both have been equally erratic so far for us and yet one has been given a lot more football which is why many are calling for KDH to get a chance surrounded by our first XI as opposed to being part of heavily rotated teams in the cups.

...can't say I agree with that, it is a if you are berating Soyuncu for lack of goals and assists!!!

Goals and assists is not what he does, you have seen the performances for Lille, taking the ball off the backline and transitioning to the last third is what he does. He has not hit the ground running and he is trying to adjust to a new team.

  You may be right and he fails to make the grade here, but the  stats are a red herring in this instance.

 

[Matt_Lcfc]

I think I am somewhere in between both of the arguments being suggested here. Some are acting like he’s superb but others seem to think that he’s awful. From what I’ve seen so far, he is somewhere in between - solid enough but a bit limited in certain departments. I reckon this season he will be a bit like Thomas in the sense that he’ll be solid enough in most games but the general consensus will be that better players can be used if we have a fully fit squad. Ultimately though, the lad is 23 and he demonstrated his ability last season - I think that I / we should reserve a proper judgement at least until he has had a proper run in the team.

[fuchsntf]

8 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

I think I am somewhere in between both of the arguments being suggested here. Some are acting like he’s superb but others seem to think that he’s awful. From what I’ve seen so far, he is somewhere in between - solid enough but a bit limited in certain departments. I reckon this season he will be a bit like Thomas in the sense that he’ll be solid enough in most games but the general consensus will be that better players can be used if we have a fully fit squad. Ultimately though, the lad is 23 and he demonstrated his ability last season - I think that I / we should reserve a proper judgement at least until he has had a proper run in the team.

Taking into Account FT cant Pick a player...I am Full of Hope & Excitement for both  KDH & Soumare...Success guarranteed...

[TheFiveTime]

Ok here is why soumare Ndidi doesnt work. Ndidi is an aggressive player at his best. He goes in, nicks the ball, tackles the player and shoves him over. However, his weakness is that if he is beaten then because he has pressured, he leaves space in behind. This is fine with youri in the middle and madders as an 8 because they can read the game and fill in behind him (esp youri - this is also why ndidi needs three in midfield) However, soumare being unable to run beyond 60% capacity means that he doesn't fill the spaces back in so the midfield is just one huge gap if Ndidi is beaten. Hamza runs about but can't read the game so he is also useless partner for Ndidi. Lets see how KDH does. Clearly he is willing to run about and he can do some risky passing which is good. Why not give him a go. i think its worth a try.

[Simoken]

Boys got an engine on him, hes brimming with potential.