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Championship - 2021/2022

By Koke, in General Football and Sport

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Fox92

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33 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Blackburn look an attractive side on the eye.

Not sure if Wilder will do a better job at Middlesbrough than Warnock had done.

I hope Blackburn make the play offs, I always liked going Ewood Park for some reason.

 

Mowbray has done a good job there but just can't crack top 6.

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9 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

I hope Blackburn make the play offs, I always liked going Ewood Park for some reason.

 

Mowbray has done a good job there but just can't crack top 6.

 

We always took loads to Blackburn and it used to be decent. 

 

Unfortunately the pub that we used got changed to a corporate eatery type and was wank last time. 

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7 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

 

We always took loads to Blackburn and it used to be decent. 

 

Unfortunately the pub that we used got changed to a corporate eatery type and was wank last time. 

Away end is good there because they can't fill it so just give loads, similar to Wigan.

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15 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Yeah, really weird, obviously it has happened in the past but since Erikesen in the summer there now seems to be more. I don't believe it's just because it's reported more either.

If you type 'footballer dies suddenly' in to Google and then hit the news section you see even more. Dozens in the last few months. Tbh it's hardly being reported nationality. I wasn't aware that so many young fit people had hearts attacks but it's obviously a thing I guess.

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Wymsey

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10 minutes ago, Soup said:

If you type 'footballer dies suddenly' in to Google and then hit the news section you see even more. Dozens in the last few months. Tbh it's hardly being reported nationality. I wasn't aware that so many young fit people had hearts attacks but it's obviously a thing I guess.

You're right, sadly.

 

Think it's called 'Sudden Adult Death Syndrone' (?) that can happen at any time.

Just shows that you have to try and make the most of life when you can.

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5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Equally some suspect it's due an affect of having suffered with COVID and the damage it's caused to the body. 

Someone I went to school with and played football with suddenly died of heart failure a few years ago (before Covid). He was the definition of fit. It's unpredictable. Underlying heart conditions or even signs of heart packing in are not visible. You could be overweight, smoking, drinking and turn 90, yet someone who is super fit goes at 25.

 

Who is to say that Covid in general doesn't affect the likelihood of this happening more frequently (I think the point you are making here in the quote). Doesn't necessarily have to be the vaccine that is the cause. Very hard to prove either way.

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14 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Someone I went to school with and played football with suddenly died of heart failure a few years ago (before Covid). He was the definition of fit. It's unpredictable. Underlying heart conditions or even signs of heart packing in are not visible. You could be overweight, smoking, drinking and turn 90, yet someone who is super fit goes at 25.

 

Who is to say that Covid in general doesn't affect the likelihood of this happening more frequently (I think the point you are making here in the quote). Doesn't necessarily have to be the vaccine that is the cause. Very hard to prove either way.

I agreed, as you say I was trying to stem the idea that the vaccine is the cause when there's as much chance it could be the affects of COVID as well (if there is an increase - personally I believe there is just substantially more coverage) 

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Probably not the thread for this, but as it's being discussed...

 

One of my employees lost his son in exactly this sort of situation.  Young, fit lad playing sport and tragically never came home again due to having an unknown heart condition.  There is a charity I like to make people aware of when I can called CRY (Cardiac Risk in the Young) who do screening for young adults of the pre-requisite age.

 

https://www.c-r-y.org.uk/

 

Definitely worth being aware of.

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4 hours ago, Soup said:

If you type 'footballer dies suddenly' in to Google and then hit the news section you see even more. Dozens in the last few months. Tbh it's hardly being reported nationality. I wasn't aware that so many young fit people had hearts attacks but it's obviously a thing I guess.

Another one happened last night in the Real Madrid champions league game. 

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Wymsey

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More bad news for Derby.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59414788

 

@Tinman, what's your and other Derby fans' views on your club's dire situation?

 

Genuinely thought that when Mel Morris took over that he'd had a good business plan in place, for the benefit of both him and the club - but this couldn't be any more opposite and untrue now, with him losing £200m personally (from his statements) and the club in quite grave danger of even folding potentially.

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1 hour ago, Soup said:

Hadn't seen that one. Becoming normal at the moment, very odd but obviously there's no problem just pure coincidence.

Around 12 young people (aged under 35) die every week in the UK from an undiagnosed heart condition. A significant proportion of these are due to inherited cardiac conditions such as abnormalities of heart muscle function or abnormalities of electrical function of the heart, which are undiagnosed at the time of cardiac arrest. Other causes include inflammation of the heart (myocarditis) and a heart attack due to a blocked artery. 

 

There is indeed a problem. Cardiac specialists have been highlighting this for years - and they aren't necessarily being listened to. Nothing kills athletes under 30 in the UK more regularly than sudden cardiac arrest. Every year, 600 people die before reaching the age of 35 from undiagnosed heart conditions. High-profile athlete deaths certainly catch the media’s attention, but many studies including this one published six years ago in 'Circulation', the American Heart Association journal, found that National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) athletes have a significantly higher incidence of sudden cardiac death than previously thought, especially among men.

 

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.115.015431

 

Amongst the conclusions was the "need to consider better ways to identify these athletes before they die, as the currently recommended screening strategy of history and physical is ineffective."

 

Football Clubs have not embraced calls to increase regular screening proactively enough and friction often is created between clubs/agents and medics over whether players with potentially fatal conditions should stop playing, with medical advice often ignored. 

 

I recall that this was very much in the news in 2018 found the risk of elite footballers suffering sudden cardiac death was far more acute than previously believed - that this was a time bomb. There are also concerns that the ever increasing pace and intensity of the game and crammed fixtures/calendar could be placing vulnerable players at more risk. 

 

I might copy and past this in the coronavirus thread - where it seems to be implied that there is something more sinister afoot and that the usual unfounded hysterical conclusions amongst some social media addicts are being prematurely drawn. 

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1 minute ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

One mention of coronavirus and @Line-X is all over it again with links and articles. 

Soup, who I replied to didn't "mention" it at all in the comment that I quoted. Strikes me that you are the paranoid one about it. I noted that there were implications being made on another thread that's all. 

 

On the other hand, perhaps you have some evidence demonstrating causality that you'd like to share? Careful, social media probably won't nail that. 

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