ARM1968 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 1 minute ago, Buce said: All I'm interested in is whether they can play football at the required level. It matters not one jot what their ethnicity is. Ethnicity and nationality are not actually the same thing. Careful Bruce, you’ll awaken the Kraken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Dave said: I think an extra experienced defender is quite important at the moment. Big We’d has retired now, so only Evans with the experience. With Fuchs also going we have a very inexperienced back line with Justin, Thomas, Little Wes and Cags. Really think an older, experienced player is required, and someone who is a leader. None of those mentioned really are at the moment. We'll miss Big We'd 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 This is turning into a Nicky Maynard thread with entitled Foxes thinking Burnley should give him away. He could well be the difference between them staying up next season, if this season is anything to go by. In which case, I’m sure Burnley would rather write off £20m I’m transfer fees and take the £100m for staying in the PL. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Ethnicity and nationality are not actually the same thing. Careful Bruce, you’ll awaken the Kraken. I am aware, but he said it would be nice to have 'English blood' in the team, and that implies ethnicity. Edited 4 June 2021 by Buce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 I was in favour of signing Fofana over Tarkowski a year ago and I think that was the correct move. A year later with a year less on Tarkowski's deal and I think signing him now would make some sense given Evans you always feel is a bit of an injury risk and has been maxed out in the last couple of years both for Leicester and NI. I wouldn't pay silly money for Tarkowski but I think you would quite plausibly get 5 decent years from him if you bought him now. I'd be in favour. Am a little sceptical about buying Burnley defenders given the way they set up, but I don't think he would be a bad buy from us. It makes more sense now than it did a year ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsr-burnley Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 10 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Even if you've got a serioulsy unhappy player on your books for 12 months who will walk away for free next season? By most accounts he wanted to go to Leicester last summer. After missing a couple of games with a "toe injury", he was a model professional for the last 36 games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza M Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 Happy with this. Need these sort of players to help grind out results when we usually bottle job it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 The new American owners must be desperate to sell him now because they don't want him to walk away for free next year. They have saddled Burnley with so much debt with the way they bought the club, they now have to find millions to pay off the loans and money for themselves aswell as invester's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 10 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: It is the problem 100%. Unless we stop being the selling club then we are pretty much where we are. Yes we’ve done well with recruitment, but rainbows always come to an end. Big club ambitions but small club mentality do not mix. I genuinely scoffed at the idea of Tark’s last year, but now I think he’d be good for us. We need to build on solid foundations and that isn’t players who will just use us for a year or two and then move on. We’ve either got to change our approach or accept what we are. I don't really get this. We've done well with recruitment because we're good at it. I don't believe it's just a lucky streak or anything like that. There's work that goes into it by people who clearly know what they're doing. I don't know about you, but I see us a superbly-run provincial club which is competing with the best in the country. I can't really see why anyone would expect us to never have to sell our better players. That happens to every club but a few in the world. We're improving every year and we're already near the top and picking up trophies. What more could we possibly ask for? What do you suggest our approach should be? Why on Earth would you want to change it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 5 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: By most accounts he wanted to go to Leicester last summer. After missing a couple of games with a "toe injury", he was a model professional for the last 36 games. He’s got form for forcing a move hasn’t he, didn’t he do something similar when he moved to Burnley ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 18 minutes ago, Buce said: All I'm interested in is whether they can play football at the required level. It matters not one jot what their ethnicity is. And James Tarkowski can play at the required level. Also it’s an extra bonus that he’s English imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top cop Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 He is the right fit at the right time. But not at any cost. Plenty more could do the same job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 2 minutes ago, Top cop said: He is the right fit at the right time. But not at any cost. Plenty more could do the same job And how many of those are actually available and cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 3 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: And how many of those are actually available and cheaper? Liverpool's Nat Philips also a CB and Forest's Joe Wirral a defender both 24 years old and available for the pricely sum of under 10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 34 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said: But why would we sell at a low price? It's not a matter of "we must sell, we can only get £10m net £7m, so that's what we must sell him for". It would take tens of millions to get him, that's what I'm saying,. Not that he will be sold for that amount. If the new dodgy owners (I'm with you there) decide that the most profitable long-term future is in keeping Tarkowski rather than selling him for less than £20m, then he will stay. As has been pointed out in this thread we may see a similar situation with Tielemans, if they don't want to sign a new deal you either sell them or let them run their contracts down and leave for nothing. Plenty on here would rather Tielemans leave for free in two years rather than accept £50m+, not me however. Who knows what the pivot point is for Burnley on how much they value Tarkowski for one more season? I would rather cash my chips in and spend that money on his successor or this time next season you have neither the player or the cash. Is Tarkowski that valuable to Burnley that he is the difference between survival and relegation, if he is then you need to act to rectify that ASAP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 (edited) Burnley are keen to sign at least one centre back this summer with Stoke City pair Nathan Collins and Harry Souttar high up the shopping list. The Clarets are also keen on Nottingham Forest's Joe Worrall and admire Liverpool's Nat Phillips as they seek to strengthen their ranks. But any arrivals would be additions rather than replacements, with James Tarkowski unlikely to leave the club. The defender attracted interest and offers from Leicester City and West Ham United last summer but Burnley rejected all bids. The 28-year-old is now in the final year of his contract at Turf Moor and is more likely to depart on a free transfer next summer than leave in this window. The Clarets value the England international highly and know that any sale, should interest materialise with no offers on the table at this stage, could hinder Burnley's ability to stay in the Premier League. Tarkowski was a key player for Sean Dyche's side last term as they secured another season of top flight football and the Clarets would be reluctant to part with the former Brentford man on the cheap given the riches on offer for Premier League football. The Bees also have a hefty sell-on fee on the centre back, further reducing any potential profit. And, given the impact of the pandemic on the transfer market it is difficult to envisage any interested side offering more than £20million for a player who could be available on a free in 12 months. Burnley are planning on Tarkowski being part of the set-up next season and would like to add further depth to a position in which they are short. Edited 4 June 2021 by moore_94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 Really hope we sign him - if we play a back 4 rotating pairings of Tarkowski/Soyuncu and Evans/Fofana I think that could really benefit us over the course of the season. £20m would be a decent deal for all parties I think, though the rationale for Burnley keeping him and letting him go for free next summer is sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waller5 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 22 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Liverpool's Nat Philips also a CB and Forest's Joe Wirral a defender both 24 years old and available for the pricely sum of under 10m So no, there aren't any comparable players available for less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes96 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 Cahill on a free to add experience as 4th choice this summer, and then Tarkowski on a free next summer. Net spend £0. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 1 hour ago, Buce said: I am aware, but he said it would be nice to have 'English blood' in the team, and that implies ethnicity. Erm, are not ALL people born in England English? To my mind that does not mean ethnicity as such, as there are many. However, born in England, English blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verumex Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 1 hour ago, weller54 said: We'll miss Big We'd 😂 Finest We'd to come out of Jamaica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ashley Posted 4 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 4 June 2021 Been informed were due for talks with Burnley next week, personal terms done. Just needs the fee agreeing(shouldn't be a problem) FYI. This has came from the Burnley end not Leicester. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderbyFox Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 Tarkowski & Soumare would be a very decent start to the window imo. Too many times last season we were caught short at CB due to injuries. not ideal having to stick Castagne/Justin as a CB when they are both very good wing backs. Tarkowski, Evans, Soyuncu, Fofana. 4 very good options for 3 starting spots. Plenty of rotation to go deep into Europa this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 6 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: Tarkowski & Soumare would be a very decent start to the window imo. Too many times last season we were caught short at CB due to injuries. not ideal having to stick Castagne/Justin as a CB when they are both very good wing backs. Tarkowski, Evans, Soyuncu, Fofana. 4 very good options for 3 starting spots. Plenty of rotation to go deep into Europa this season. Agreed. We need to concentrate on Winger(s) and a Striker(s) now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 4 June 2021 Share Posted 4 June 2021 34 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Erm, are not ALL people born in England English? To my mind that does not mean ethnicity as such, as there are many. However, born in England, English blood. That's not what he meant and I think you know that. If he merely meant English, the word blood was superfluous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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