Patson Daka

[GlennyFox55]

After failing to replace Mahrez we’ve clearly decided to pretend RW doesn’t exist.

[Scotch]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

So we sign Daka and French Eddie, but we do not sign a RW, do you

1. Get excited
2. Get confused
3. Get angry
4. Lose you sh*t

I think I would be excited. 

 

I think it's fair to day that we all have reservations on 532/3412. No doubting it's gotten us some good results but it can be fairly dire to watch but signings like Soumare, Daka, Eddy, Bertrand and a left footed CB would showa real intent to making the system work by putting the right players in key positions. 

 

The only confusion for me would be where Barnes fits into that... 

 

Or possibly, a 433... Maddison may drop deeper into the #8 role and rotate with Soumare depending on opposition with Barnes playing on the left of a narrow front 3, rotating with Vardy. Daka and Perez rotating on the right and Nacho/Eddy through the middle. 

[Mark]

6 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

Why does this indicate 3 at the back, wouldn't 4-3-3 work just as well?

Hopefully building towards a more fluid front three like what he had a Liverpool. Barnes Edouard/Vardy Daka. Having Soumare and Ndidi in midfield would allow that, and the full backs to push forward too.

[UHDrive]

14 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I reckon we've quite probably got Edouard wrapped up. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they're both signing and Daka will play more as either a wide forward or with Edouard in a 352.

 

I can see us selling Hamza and Praet for the same amount we spend on Edouard and Soumare given they look like they're both going to be bargains. 

 

Bertrand is a free so us spending 30m on a highly rated attack as our net outlay up to that point wouldn't be a shock. 

 

With KDH and Sowah being essentially free extra signings I can see us maybe then bringing in a CB and that'll be about it. Another window where we make some great signings and still don't bother with a specialist RW. 

I would be glad if it were 2 strikers as opposed to 1 incoming. I still and always have had reservations about nacho because his game is always about confidence too much. 

 

Praet - I'd keep him by far over KDH! Praet has proven himself on the big stage and was always on the backfoot when he joined by being played out of position. The last 2 years aside from the injury he's been playing well. I fear it would be a mistake to get rid of someone in the centre right mid at a time when a new RW is coming in. Maybe there's a work around there somehow.

 

Another CB, RW, Striker x 2 and Soumare and sorted......

 

Off to the Dakar Rally!!....

Edited 17 June 2021 by UHDrive
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[Gravel]

10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So we sign Daka and French Eddie, but we do not sign a RW, do you

1. Get excited
2. Get confused
3. Get angry
4. Lose you sh*t

All of the above. 

[YesNdidi]

are we sure he means we are signing both daka and Edouard? perhaps he means that we are close to completing the Daka deal after initially opening talks for Edouard 

[AllGoneTitsSchlupp]

i know next to nothing about this guy but the reaction of everyone else means he must be the biz. gerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrimin

[Ricey]

I can't work out if Romano's tweet means we are going for Daka after failing in talks with Edouard or whether we are going for both.

[ronnup]

Choosing 3 out of Barnes, Daka, Vardy, Edouard and Kelechi is just absolutely ridiculous 

[StriderHiryu]

2 minutes ago, Mark said:

Hopefully building towards a more fluid front three like what he had a Liverpool. Barnes Edouard/Vardy Daka.

2 minutes ago, GlennyFox55 said:

After failing to replace Mahrez we’ve clearly decided to pretend RW doesn’t exist.

I think both of these statements are where we are headed. I know many of us WANT that right winger, but that position is so, so tough to properly replace. You can create a team that plays very much like the 4231 but without an out and out right forward and still get results, and that doesn't mean we have to go 3 at the back either.

 

This is shaping up to be a very exciting window. Daka in particular is the player most suitable to replace Vardy IMO, if you look at profile and style of play and of players we could realistically sign. 

 

 

[peach0000]

3 minutes ago, YesNdidi said:

are we sure he means we are signing both daka and Edouard? perhaps he means that we are close to completing the Daka deal after initially opening talks for Edouard 

It’s so badly worded it could definitely read that way as well. He should clarify it really. 

[urban.spaceman]

Godfrey's being cryptic.

 

[GlennyFox55]

Apparently only Daka not Edouard.

[Adster]

1 minute ago, Ricey said:

I can't work out if Romano's tweet means we are going for Daka after failing in talks with Edouard or whether we are going for both.

Thought the exact same, I cannot make it out. As it was Mike Mcgrath who reported on us bidding for Patson Daka, I cannot make out if he's saying the Daka deal is close to done or the Odsonne one..or both?!

[simon789us]

Just don’t see us signing French eddy and daka

[FoxOnWheels]

How much we got to spend if these are true fvcking massive

[moore_94]

Just now, GlennyFox55 said:

Apparently only Daka not Edouard.

 

[YesNdidi]

[lcfcsnow]

Hopefully it's not one of those smokescreens to get Edouard over the line.

[Merchant_Banker]

4 minutes ago, matty98 said:

The thing is if we're playing with 2 strikers then we won't be playing with wingers so where does Barnes play? Surely he'd then be considered a striker as well. So we'd have 5 players who are all starting 11 quality going for 2 places.

I just don't see that being practical.

I am becoming more convinced that 4-3-3 is the way to go. With what we have now we have Ndidi, Tielemans and Maddison behind Barnes, Vardy and Iheanacho. With possible incomings we might rotate to Ndidi, Soumare, Tielemans behind Barnes, Edouard, Daka or if Barnes is not fit/on form then 4-3-1-2 with Maddison behind 2 of Edouard, Daka, Vardy and Iheanacho.

 

I think we are looking at the succession and expecting Vardy to play fewer full games.

[moore_94]

Just now, lcfcsnow said:

Hopefully it's not one of those smokescreens to get Edouard over the line.

Seems like we may have moved on from Eddie to Daka after being unable to agree a deal with Celtic

[TommyK]

I think we'll find Vardy being the one on the bench. I think next season is the first we'll see him play a lot less games (I'm not ruling him out, but think he's injuries are catching up with him)

[urban.spaceman]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

 

 

1 minute ago, YesNdidi said:

I really, really wanted to steal Celtic's best player as well as their manager but getting a Zambian would mean so much more to me.

[Finnegan]

24 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So we sign Daka and French Eddie, but we do not sign a RW, do you

1. Get excited
2. Get confused
3. Get angry
4. Lose you sh*t

 

This maaaay be an unpopular opinion on here but I'd probably be OK with it. 

 

Few notes:

 

1. Don't @ me but some of the best, if not THE best, football we've ever played under Rodgers was with Perez at RW. I'll die on this hill. 

 

2. We've finished 5th twice in a row with Rodgers, and won the FA Cup, with our current quota of RW stock and we aren't losing anyone this summer. 

 

3. We have no idea how good Sowah is going to be yet or what Rodgers expectations are for him but it's very possible he's seen as an RW. 

 

4. We all know that we have to replace Vardy's goals at some point in the near to immediate future. 

 

5. Conventional wisdom was that replacing Mahrez literally 1:1 was likely impossible, that replacing his assists / goal contributions REALLY meant bringing a number of players in to the squad who could do it collectively. We introduced Maddison, Barnes and Tielemans and did exactly that. 

 

If you apply the same logic to replacing Vardy, who is - with respect to some greats of the past - realistically the best striker in the history of the club and will probably be remembered as a Premier League great, we probably need to sign multiple players to do that. 

 

We have to prepare ourselves for the reality that neither Daka or Edouard will be as good as Vardy but hopefully the two of them + Kelechi will just about = 1 JV.

 

So in conclusion:

 

To maintain where we're at, we NEED to sign strikers to replace a declining Vardy (not just now but for the future.) We don't NEED to sign a RW. 

 

Obviously, ideally, we'd sign these two AND a winger of equal quality and instead of aiming to sustain, we'd aim to build. But given the unbelievable importance, the maybe club era defining importance, of replacing Vardy I don't think any of us can "lose our shit" that we'd prioritise that. 

 

By the way, if anyone's reaction to this episode of Finners' Soapbox is to say "yeah but Vardy has years yet, he's hardly slowing down!" I'd like to take this moment to put an arm round you, comfort and support you because I understand that you're going through the denial stage of grief. This is a hard time, we're all going to mourn his inevitable loss very, very hard. 

 

 

 

Edited 17 June 2021 by Finnegan

[lgfualol]

Inb4 Daka and Nacho at AFCON and Vardy gets injured in Jan and we have Perez up top for a whole month.