KFS Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Can’t be worse than Nigerian Chelsea fans. Absolutely deluded and arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 30 minutes ago, KFS said: Can’t be worse than Nigerian Chelsea fans. Absolutely deluded and arrogant. How are Nigerian fans of Chelsea any comparison to Patson Daka fans from a country thousands of miles away from Nigeria? That’s like if the New York Knicks signed a Greek player and I said his Greek fans can’t be any worse than the British Los Angeles Lakers fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 1 hour ago, KFS said: Can’t be worse than Nigerian Chelsea fans. Absolutely deluded and arrogant. All of them, most of them or some of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 3 hours ago, MPH said: I have a couple of Zambian message boards marked out ready to post the foxestalk address once this becomes official they can have the Mercury page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shit_arse Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Molson Canadian said: Little Brendan in the background Edited 23 June 2021 by Shit_arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 7 hours ago, Deeg67 said: I think it's only logical. Daka doesn't want to come here because he wants to be a Leicester player forever. He wants to go to the biggest stage in the world, prove he can succeed, and cash in with a huge contract at someplace like Bayern, PSG or Man City. If it works, everybody wins - we get a season or two of striker production and a profit, Daka gets what he basically wanted all along. That's how teams like Dortmund, Leipzig and Atalanta stay competitive and that's basically the model for LCFC. I still reserve the right to scream about his disloyalty! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 7 hours ago, Deeg67 said: I think it's only logical. Daka doesn't want to come here because he wants to be a Leicester player forever. He wants to go to the biggest stage in the world, prove he can succeed, and cash in with a huge contract at someplace like Bayern, PSG or Man City. If it works, everybody wins - we get a season or two of striker production and a profit, Daka gets what he basically wanted all along. That's how teams like Dortmund, Leipzig and Atalanta stay competitive and that's basically the model for LCFC. Do we really want a succession of players who show no allegiance to our club. If this is our model , why do they go crazy on here when Tielemans,Ndidi, Maddison etc. are linked with moving on. Surely its time to let them go and take the profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deeg67 Posted 23 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 23 June 2021 1 hour ago, An Sionnach said: Do we really want a succession of players who show no allegiance to our club. If this is our model , why do they go crazy on here when Tielemans,Ndidi, Maddison etc. are linked with moving on. Surely its time to let them go and take the profit They go crazy because they don't understand the model. Do we want a succession of Kante, Mahrez, Chilwell, and soon enough Tielemans and Pereira? I think we do. I think we want the best players we can get for however long they're around. If we restrict ourselves to players not good enough to tempt and be tempted by the mega-clubs, top six is a pipe dream, never mind CL. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Anyone seen him a Morrison’s yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 3 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: They go crazy because they don't understand the model. Do we want a succession of Kante, Mahrez, Chilwell, and soon enough Tielemans and Pereira? I think we do. I think we want the best players we can get for however long they're around. If we restrict ourselves to players not good enough to tempt and be tempted by the mega-clubs, top six is a pipe dream, never mind CL. Believe it or not our model has never been to sell our best players despite what some think, and I know for a fact we are not sat there thinking how do we sell our best players. I think some get confused about this. Our strategy is to build the best playing side possible, the one nuance to that is that if a player doesn't want to be here and we get the asking price we'll sell, providing we can reinvest. It's quite pragmatic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, The_77 said: How are Nigerian fans of Chelsea any comparison to Patson Daka fans from a country thousands of miles away from Nigeria? That’s like if the New York Knicks signed a Greek player and I said his Greek fans can’t be any worse than the British Los Angeles Lakers fans. People are talking about foreign football fans coming onto our social media, that’s why Algerian fans were raised, now Zambia incoming and; not sure if you’ve noticed but the amazing amount of ‘small club’ posts from Twitterati whoppers are from Nigeria and support Chelsea. I’d add Turkish fans in there too. Also saw South African fans raiding Brighton’s every post when Percy Tau wasn’t starting. You get my point…Hopefully you’ve got your world map out. Edited 23 June 2021 by KFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 28 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Believe it or not our model has never been to sell our best players despite what some think, and I know for a fact we are not sat there thinking how do we sell our best players. I think some get confused about this. Our strategy is to build the best playing side possible, the one nuance to that is that if a player doesn't want to be here and we get the asking price we'll sell, providing we can reinvest. It's quite pragmatic really. As long as we understand that we are just a finishing school for careerist players that is OK. These players are not, Morgan, Fuchs or Vardy they are just being prepared for better things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyfox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 If Patson is Vardy’s successor and Vardy’s only got 2 years left in him and Patson will only be here for 2 years before looking at moving to an elite club. How can he be Vardy’s successor? Better bring 2 in Ruddders😄😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 7 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: As long as we understand that we are just a finishing school for careerist players that is OK. These players are not, Morgan, Fuchs or Vardy they are just being prepared for better things. But what happens if in the meantime we become that 'better thing'? Top isn't sat there happy with where the club is, he wants to build it. They'll always be a pecking order but it's becoming a smaller bigger pond by the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 5 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: As long as we understand that we are just a finishing school for careerist players that is OK. These players are not, Morgan, Fuchs or Vardy they are just being prepared for better things. What am I missing here? Do we only want players who choose to stay until the end of their careers? Should Fuchs be held in higher regard than Kanté or Mahrez just because he stayed longer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 23 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 23 June 2021 36 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Believe it or not our model has never been to sell our best players despite what some think, and I know for a fact we are not sat there thinking how do we sell our best players. I think some get confused about this. Our strategy is to build the best playing side possible, the one nuance to that is that if a player doesn't want to be here and we get the asking price we'll sell, providing we can reinvest. It's quite pragmatic really. And the beauty of what we have built is that our players are hugely coveted due to proven progression and because our recruitment model is envied across the footballing world. Our reputation now makes us the go to club for young talented players and our reputation tempts the elite clubs to offer obscene amounts for these players when we progress them and challenge them for a spot at the dining table. It then just keeps feeding itself and as long as we continue to do it right then we will stay challenging. Dortmund do it and make it look easy and its not bit once you get to where we are in the process it becomes easier. That's why I get quite irate when people think young players moving to the likes of Palace or Newcastle is a good career move. It really isn't because they have no track record for progressing players and rousing the interest of the elite to pay the necessary amount for them to sell and that's what is ignored. The PL is awash with money and you don't have to sell anymore to the big clubs like you did in the 90's and 00's, so these players can end up stuck and then their chance to kick on is gone and they just kick about as a half decent PL player and neither player or club progress. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Believe it or not our model has never been to sell our best players despite what some think, and I know for a fact we are not sat there thinking how do we sell our best players. I think some get confused about this. Our strategy is to build the best playing side possible, the one nuance to that is that if a player doesn't want to be here and we get the asking price we'll sell, providing we can reinvest. It's quite pragmatic really. Do we WANT to sell our best players, No. Do we NEED to sell out best players? Debatable, our earrings to wage percentage was so high, we'd have no chance of strengthening like we do each summer without selling a player. Neither would we be able to invest so much in infrastructure. We should have brought that down substantially in the last 18 months, so we'll see on that. The way the purposely invest in young talent is clearly with the knowledge should they succeed, they will attract bids and they will likely want to move on to larger teams. We might not be actively looking to move a player on each year, but with such a base of talent in the squad it's easy to see 4 or 5 transfers that will happen in the coming years, and have one eye on that and actively plan ahead for it happening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Strange that I'm already mourning losing Daka before we've even signed him 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greg2607 Posted 23 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 23 June 2021 12 minutes ago, Babylon said: Do we WANT to sell our best players, No. Do we NEED to sell out best players? Debatable, our earrings to wage percentage was so high, we'd have no chance of strengthening like we do each summer without selling a player. Neither would we be able to invest so much in infrastructure. We should have brought that down substantially in the last 18 months, so we'll see on that. The way the purposely invest in young talent is clearly with the knowledge should they succeed, they will attract bids and they will likely want to move on to larger teams. We might not be actively looking to move a player on each year, but with such a base of talent in the squad it's easy to see 4 or 5 transfers that will happen in the coming years, and have one eye on that and actively plan ahead for it happening. how many earrings do we have?? are they pat butcher style? who knew that was a metric! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 23 minutes ago, Babylon said: Do we WANT to sell our best players, No. Do we NEED to sell out best players? Debatable, our earrings to wage percentage was so high, we'd have no chance of strengthening like we do each summer without selling a player. Neither would we be able to invest so much in infrastructure. We should have brought that down substantially in the last 18 months, so we'll see on that. The way the purposely invest in young talent is clearly with the knowledge should they succeed, they will attract bids and they will likely want to move on to larger teams. We might not be actively looking to move a player on each year, but with such a base of talent in the squad it's easy to see 4 or 5 transfers that will happen in the coming years, and have one eye on that and actively plan ahead for it happening. We only sell if we reinvest and it's on our terms - we've never been under financial pressure to sell. That's where many get it wrong. Wage to turnover ratios for the last bit have been enormously overstated, it's a bit of anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 7 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: We only sell if we reinvest and it's on our terms - we've never been under financial pressure to sell. That's where many get it wrong. Wage to turnover ratios for the last bit have been enormously overstated, it's a bit of anomaly. Covid will definitely have affected revenue and we're in a situation where we DO need to sell if we are to progress. So while there is maybe no immediate threat by not selling, it is something we need to do to maintain our current position. If we don't sell a Chilwell every season, I doubt we can keep hold of emerging key players like Tielemans, Fofana, Soyuncu et al who will want top 6 club wages to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Chelsea have already approached us asking if he is available. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 8 minutes ago, shen said: Covid will definitely have affected revenue and we're in a situation where we DO need to sell if we are to progress. So while there is maybe no immediate threat by not selling, it is something we need to do to maintain our current position. If we don't sell a Chilwell every season, I doubt we can keep hold of emerging key players like Tielemans, Fofana, Soyuncu et al who will want top (?!) 6 club wages to stay. Do you not think that Covid also affects the revenues of some of the big 6 Clubs ? I would imagine the days of Arsenal and Spuds taking our players are momentarily thwarted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 The bottom line then is if Daka signs a five year contract and having proved his worth wants to move on to Liverpool after two years , then we wish him well and take the profit. We should in no way stand in the way of Tielemans if he now wants to do the same. In truth a large number of posters on here have near heart attacks at the thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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