Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, shen said: Covid will definitely have affected revenue and we're in a situation where we DO need to sell if we are to progress. So while there is maybe no immediate threat by not selling, it is something we need to do to maintain our current position. If we don't sell a Chilwell every season, I doubt we can keep hold of emerging key players like Tielemans, Fofana, Soyuncu et al who will want top 6 club wages to stay. Success builds commercial revenue and prize money over time though - no one has seen our accounts with full pl prize money, European money and growing commercial revenue yet. The difference between a 9th finish and top 5 finish is quite significant. Edited 23 June 2021 by Chocolate Teapot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 27 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said: We only sell if we reinvest and it's on our terms - we've never been under financial pressure to sell. That's where many get it wrong. Wage to turnover ratios for the last bit have been enormously overstated, it's a bit of anomaly. Any reason why it’s overstated? The higher it is the less free money you have to spend on transfers etc. I know it was freakishly high last accounts due to Covid, but we were high before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Any reason why it’s overstated? The higher it is the less free money you have to spend on transfers etc. I know it was freakishly high last accounts due to Covid, but we were high before that. Last year because a huge chunk of prize money was pushed into the following year. The year before because we'd spent a small fortune of sacking Claude and getting Rodgers, and then renewing his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 12 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Chelsea have already approached us asking if he is available. Some random teenage Arsenal fan has already tweeted a fake photo of him with Arsenal kit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 7 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Do you not think that Covid also affects the revenues of some of the big 6 Clubs ? I would imagine the days of Arsenal and Spuds taking our players are momentarily thwarted? Of course it does, but the gap remains the same. If we're matching Arsenal and Spurs wages' then we have nothing to fear from a sporting perspective, but besides the current squad and manager, there isn't much from a non-sporting perspective that will have players choosing us over Spurs or Arsenal. We both know their potential 'ceilings' are much higher than what Leicester can offer currently. 1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Success builds commercial revenue and prize money over time though - no one has seen our accounts with full pl prize money, European money and growing revenue yet. The difference between a 9th finish and top 5 finish is quite significant. I think you just have to look at the revenue gap between the 'big 6' and the rest to conclude that prize money from finishing 9th or 5th is insignificant. Until we have increased our income, mainly from marketing and commercial activities abroad, the only realistic way to compete is by employing our current model, like it or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frany104 Posted 23 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 23 June 2021 8 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: The bottom line then is if Daka signs a five year contract and having proved his worth wants to move on to Liverpool after two years , then we wish him well and take the profit. We should in no way stand in the way of Tielemans if he now wants to do the same. In truth a large number of posters on here have near heart attacks at the thought. Why are you talking about him leaving?? He’s not even signed yet. Give it a rest. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Just now, frany104 said: Why are you talking about him leaving?? He’s not even signed yet. Give it a rest. Because he is settling for us even though he really wanted Liverpool. These players should not post their true intentions on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 2 hours ago, KFS said: People are talking about foreign football fans coming onto our social media, that’s why Algerian fans were raised, now Zambia incoming and; not sure if you’ve noticed but the amazing amount of ‘small club’ posts from Twitterati whoppers are from Nigeria and support Chelsea. I’d add Turkish fans in there too. Also saw South African fans raiding Brighton’s every post when Percy Tau wasn’t starting. You get my point…Hopefully you’ve got your world map out. Ha! Took me on a world tour there. Got your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 4 minutes ago, shen said: Of course it does, but the gap remains the same. If we're matching Arsenal and Spurs wages' then we have nothing to fear from a sporting perspective, but besides the current squad and manager, there isn't much from a non-sporting perspective that will have players choosing us over Spurs or Arsenal. We both know their potential 'ceilings' are much higher than what Leicester can offer currently. I think you just have to look at the revenue gap between the 'big 6' and the rest to conclude that prize money from finishing 9th or 5th is insignificant. Until we have increased our income, mainly from marketing and commercial activities abroad, the only realistic way to compete is by employing our current model, like it or not. 30m isn't insignificant. You're right on commercial income but my spider senses tell me we've made massive progress on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayFox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 Need that photo of him @LCFC on Twitter with a City shirt on before I get excited, looks a phenomenal young striker and I can’t believe we are the only club interested in him… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 2 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Because he is settling for us even though he really wanted Liverpool. These players should not post their true intentions on social media. Wait until you find out the majority of players will see us as a club to go to so they can eventually get a move to a bigger club Even Kante didn’t really want to join us, he wanted to go to Marseille with Chelsea as his end game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: Wait until you find out the majority of players will see us as a club to go to so they can eventually get a move to a bigger club Even Kante didn’t really want to join us, he wanted to go to Marseille with Chelsea as his end game Of course you are totally right , that's why I laugh when I see some players kissing the badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Of course you are totally right , that's why I laugh when I see some players kissing the badge. Vardy is the exception, I remember when after our title win Wenger wanted to sign him for £28m and Vardy turned it down, he could of got double what he gets here Edited 23 June 2021 by CrispinLA in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALC Fox Posted 23 June 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 23 June 2021 13 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Of course you are totally right , that's why I laugh when I see some players kissing the badge. I think it's possible to have a genuine affection for the club you play for as well as understanding that moving on is probably the best thing for your career. I don't think we can say that Thierry Henry didn't love Arsenal for example. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 12 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Vardy is the exception, I remember when after our title win Wenger wanted to sign him for £28m and Vardy turned it down, he could of got double what he gets here He was Offered a 4 year deal on £120k pw by Arsenal We offered him £100k for 5 yrs. obviously since then he has had further extensions and pay rises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 4 minutes ago, urban fox said: He was Offered a 4 year deal on £120k pw by Arsenal We offered him £100k for 5 yrs. obviously since then he has had further extensions and pay rises *£100k for 5 years, a less melty dressing room and guaranteed legend status at the end of it all. At the time all Arsenal could offer was the legitimate chance to win an FA Cup albeit most likely as a squad player and... well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 I think it was being involved in the England set up that kept Vardy with us. Being exposed to being 2nd or 3rd choice (sometimes to a winger!!) and being in a side that had no intention of playing a style of football that suited him showed him the grass wasn't greener. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevieLynex Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 2 hours ago, jayfox26 said: Strange that I'm already mourning losing Daka before we've even signed him 🤣 Because Daka's the way you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 PD20 sounds like a Star Wars droid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 56 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Wait until you find out the majority of players will see us as a club to go to so they can eventually get a move to a bigger club Even Kante didn’t really want to join us, he wanted to go to Marseille with Chelsea as his end game Which is brilliant for us as we get players that are running their backsides of to impress the next club, so in other words, we, as fans, get to see a player pushing himself, instead of one that's "made it" and doesn't need to push himself further. This is why i think we saw the best of Mahrez and Man City fans only get to see that wizardry every now and then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shen Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Which is brilliant for us as we get players that are running their backsides of to impress the next club, so in other words, we, as fans, get to see a player pushing himself, instead of one that's "made it" and doesn't need to push himself further. This is why i think we saw the best of Mahrez and Man City fans only get to see that wizardry every now and then. He's been consistently good there too, but now he's playing alongside Silva, de Bruyne, Agüero, so he doesn't stand out like a sore thumb like he did here I actually think the fact the players we have sold on have all continued to perform is a very positive thing for us. Top clubs will feel our players are properly scouted and can deliver almost instantly. The only exception has been Drinkwater really. Edited 23 June 2021 by shen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 22 minutes ago, oakman said: PD20 sounds like a Star Wars droid. PeeDeeTwoOoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 29 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Which is brilliant for us as we get players that are running their backsides of to impress the next club, so in other words, we, as fans, get to see a player pushing himself, instead of one that's "made it" and doesn't need to push himself further. This is why i think we saw the best of Mahrez and Man City fans only get to see that wizardry every now and then.w When Mahrez gets in a discussion , things quickly get divisive. Kante, Maguire and Chilwell ,as far as I know, have all thanked us for progressing their careers. Our business plan definitely seem to work for the most part , there have been exceptions Gray, Diabate etc. Daka can certainly be a value added player and maybe he will knock in plenty of goals. When the time comes for him to go though,like Tielemans, don't get upset and accuse him of disloyalty. That is the nature of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 4 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: When Mahrez gets in a discussion , things quickly get divisive. Kante, Maguire and Chilwell ,as far as I know, have all thanked us for progressing their careers. Our business plan definitely seem to work for the most part , there have been exceptions Gray, Diabate etc. Daka can certainly be a value added player and maybe he will knock in plenty of goals. When the time comes for him to go though,like Tielemans, don't get upset and accuse him of disloyalty. That is the nature of this club. Why would i get upset if Tielemans left? I couldn't give a toss. I also don't think there is any such thing as a business plan or model at Leicester, it's all just coincidences. We don't have a plan to buy cheap and sell high, it just turns out that way, and if that's a plan, it's not a very good one, cos we've bought some right stinkers over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphericalfox Posted 23 June 2021 Share Posted 23 June 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Why would i get upset if Tielemans left? I couldn't give a toss. I also don't think there is any such thing as a business plan or model at Leicester, it's all just coincidences. We don't have a plan to buy cheap and sell high, it just turns out that way, and if that's a plan, it's not a very good one, cos we've bought some right stinkers over the last few years. You do realise that not every acquisition is based around a model of buy cheap sell high? Otherwise we'd never have bought Evans for example. Edited 23 June 2021 by sphericalfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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