EURO 2020 FINAL. England v Italy. At Wembley. Thread.

[katieakita]

They have a keeper who is about 7ft so we settle for penalties, the love in for Southgate needs to stop, we have had 2 major tournaments where everything has gone in our favour. Could not get more favourable draws and home advantage 

[Tuna]

Gutted and pretty furious to be honest. Cannot understand why on earth you piss about with those daft stuttering run ups. Really feel for Saka should never have been put in that position and should have been hooked in extra time.

[Finnegan]

Absolutely ridiculous choice of pen takers. 

 

Rashford and Sancho have barely kicked a ball in the tournament, Saka is a kid, I mean really all three are. 

 

Reminds me of our senior players letting Knockaert take THAT pen. 

Edited 11 July 2021 by Finnegan

[NasPb]

Anyone remember when at wembley i believe, puel brought vardy on to directly take a penalty?

 

 

same thing. u cant do that. players need to be warm. good for italy though. they play great football as a neutral and mancini deserved this. 

 

southgate caused this more than anything. 

 

from a moroccan whos not italian or english!

[StanSP]

Just now, Col city fan said:

Southgate has made some good decisions this tournament

To give that 5th decision to Saka was crazy crazy management. You could see the poor lad was shitting his pants as he ran up

That HAD to be Grealish 

But if he's confident about it in the team talk? He can't change the decision as he takes his walk up... 

[Stinkenzo]

Just now, ttfn said:

You’re inferring something that hasn’t been said or implied.

 

Well if my memory serves me correctly you said Southgate takes 100% of the blame. Sort of suggests Rashford/Sancho aren't to blame at all? Or are you one of these 110% sorta guys?

[Md9]

Worst thing we did was score in the first few mins had to long to sit back and not do anything 

[Guest ttfn]

Forget the penalties, we stopped playing after 20 minutes. That’s not good enough.

[adam]

Bring on the charity shield. Proper football 

[foxes_rule1978]

It is funny how people are crapping on Southgate yet he got the team to the final, a very young team… and lost it by just penalties.   Hard but you can’t say the team hasn’t delivered a great tournament. Didn’t get it done against an experienced Italy side but nothing to be ashamed about 

[Nalis]

Grealish and Sterling really should have taken the penalties

[Silva Fox]

Sorry but that's on Southgate all the way. Waited far too long to make changes in the 2nd half when we were getting overrun all over the pitch then bottled it again in extra time. No way should Saka be put in the position of taking the 5th penalty. Really disappointed with his decision making tonight.

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[StanSP]

4 minutes ago, ttfn said:

He brought them on specifically to take pens. There’s no way that’s the first time they’ve ever done that.

 

Fair play to Pickford saving 2 pens by the way.

I agree he brought them on specifically to take pens. I'm not absolving him totally of the blame. I said it was more of a collective as opposed to just one person. If he brings them on with the trust to score, what else can he do? 

[winteriscoming]

We have Mancini in charge we win it. Southgate is too negative and played for penalties. 

[Stinkenzo]

2 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

Rashford’s penalty was shocking he’s certainly got to take a share of the blame 

Apparently not!

[Brooksy]

We scored too early.

[Mark_w]

Chiellini and Bonucci are such f***ing legends, credit where it's due, I wonder if they're bored of Juve/fancy a retirement run in the East Midlands?

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, matty98 said:

Rashford and Sancho's were the most disappointing pens. They're both completely fresh, should be burying them in a corner every single time.

Wrong - they’re cold …..this isn’t American football. Gareth got that wrong - end of 

[Corky]

2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Absolutely ridiculous choice of pen takers. 

 

Rashford and Sancho have barely kicked a ball in the tournament, Saka is a kid, I mean really all three are. 

 

Reminds me of our senior players letting Knockaert take THAT pen. 

I really thought he'd kept Henderson on for them. Stones has good technique.

 

Rashford I understand because he takes them for his club, I'd assume Sancho doesn't and Saka surely hasn't taken one in professional football?

[Pliskin]

Don’t the players put themselves forward to take pens? 

[Nalis]

If Southgate takes the blame for losing this, does he get credit for getting England to the final?

Edited 11 July 2021 by Nalis

[TrentFox]

The biggest kick in English football in 55 years and he asked a kid with acne to take it. 😞.

[Mark_w]

1 minute ago, winteriscoming said:

We have Mancini in charge we win it. Southgate is too negative and played for penalties. 

Mancini did much the same in the semi and the final...

[Carl the Llama]

Southgate and his bizarre attitude to subs is once again the key sticking point for us.  Really bizarre to make 2 substitutions with 1 minute of time left:  No time to have an impact and magnifies the pressure on them to score their penalties, which they didn't.  Really strange management, even worse than his reluctance to bring on Vardy against Croatia probably.

[wardyfox86]

It's not on Southgate, where are the more senior players stepping up? Grealish, Walker, Shaw? Why is a 19 year old going "I'll take the 5th" and the team letting him. 

Edited 11 July 2021 by wardyfox86
Walker went off, but point still stands.