baldeagle Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) Great news do a stand at a time and we’re laughing . Man United and Liverpool didn’t do all sides at once did they ? Edited 28 July 2021 by baldeagle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xen Posted 28 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2021 Imagine its a case of 8k is the most we can add without disrupting current capacity too much. Once its finished and we hit 40k, it'll be far easier to accomodate demand for tickets whilst continuing development (should the club choose to increase further). Otherwise if we wanted to increase up to 45k for instance in one go we might've had to close large(r) sections of the ground - or even relocate entirely - whilst work is being carried out, which is obviously less than ideal. Makes sense to stretch it out into a multi-phase project, and allows us to stop earlier if the demand isn't there for whatever reason. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spudulike Posted 28 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2021 3 minutes ago, baldeagle said: Great news do a stand at a time and we’re laughing . Man United and Liverpool didn’t do all sides at once did they ?. I think that doing it a stand at a time will ultimately provide more character as design trends change over time thus making it look more interesting from different eras. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxford blue Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 As this development (which is good news) will require planning permission, I will assume the parking concerns will need to be addressed. Parking is difficult currently, let alone with many more cars in the vicinity.. Is one solution the use of company car parks around the city (if not separate park and ride(s)) with buses ( for which there would be a charge)to bus fans into stadium. This works well for Reading, although I accept grounds are not comparable I think it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, UHDrive said: The LA development control is different in that the consultations raised at the time by the public will be recorded by development control as the application is being submitted, but at the moment the site redevelopment would've been dealt with by informal/formal discussions with the LA by way of pre outline application or reserved matters talks. With lots of coffee at the council ☕ no doubt. ....reading this is very much "academic writing" and just reading it aloud sounds like Sir Humphrey in "Yes Minister"..!!! You almost need a "Bernard" beside you in order to translate, after Sir Humphrey has left the room. Edited 28 July 2021 by sacreblueits442 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 1 hour ago, baldeagle said: Great news do a stand at a time and we’re laughing . Man United and Liverpool didn’t do all sides at once did they ? Yep Liverpool have been doing a stand at a time. First main stand was 8.5k extra seats and now they are going the Anfield road end with an extra 7k seats - they are having to reroute the road which runs behind the stand to create enough space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, turlo said: Yep Liverpool have been doing a stand at a time. First main stand was 8.5k extra seats and now they are going the Anfield road end with an extra 7k seats - they are having to reroute the road which runs behind the stand to create enough space. So our 1st stand is basically 500 less than what Liverpool did and some people are moaning 😂. Edited 28 July 2021 by baldeagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philce Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 8 hours ago, ealingfox said: Don't agree with the car park - should be dissuading people from coming in their cars. What about electric cars? Wont be too long before they are the norm, need to think for the future? It's OK trying to force people onto public transport, but it has to be a viable alternative, how does someone get home to a outlying area after a midweek game that has gone to ET and pens? Why should they have to leave early to get the last train/bus? The council already have their anti-car agenda that before long will look outdated and short sighted when traditional cars are in the minority. I suppose we can expect another 15 years of roadworks removing the cycle lanes and installing electric charging points! That said, the original plans for the ground did have S106 conditions regarding transport provision for fans that never really happened. I can see this dragging on for months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHDrive Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 36 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ....reading this is very much "academic writing" and just reading it allowed sounds like Sir Humphrey in "Yes Minister"..!!! You almost need a "Bernard" beside you in order to translate, after Sir Humphrey has left the room. Why thank you old chum, jolly nice to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 I wonder wether the sneaky blighters might try and pull a trick out from up their sleeve.. ” everyone, we are announcing that we are going to announce in a months time that we are building 40k capacity and some shops” doesn’t really add up to me.. it’s probably going to be “ you know that 40k capacity? it’s actually going to be 48k! BOOYAH!” would be really cool.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post purpleronnie Posted 28 July 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 28 July 2021 4 hours ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said: Forest forum reaction to our stadium being the biggest in the East Midlands is to mention administration and how we cheated our way to success them/derby still crying on about something that happened in 2002 !! King power didn’t even take over the club till 2010. That's so unlike Forest fans to talk about the past. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 (edited) Do think a couple of extra thousand seats wouldn't go amiss, but 40k is a solid start. I still think that, with continued success, our matchday attendance has the potential to regularly draw 45k or more given our catchment area and current undisputed position as the best club in the East Midlands. Can't count any chickens, of course, and I think any future expansion would be reliant on improved transport links to the ground as well as where we find ourselves in the league at that point. Let's see if the rumours of the Ivanhoe Line extension as a trade-off for using Ashby as a construction base for HS2 have any weight, because I think a rail link would be a pre-requisite for us to ever draw much bigger crowds without serious strain on the city's road network. I think a station is the sort of thing the club would help fund in any future expansion proposal. The possibility of matchday rail traffic massively boosts the business case for the line so it'd be a bit of a win-win, considering it would only cost them about what we just paid for Patson Daka to bankroll, if the (slightly farcical and purposely inflated to discourage approval) last feasibility study is anything to go by. Edited 28 July 2021 by OntarioFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPalace.com Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 14 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: That's so unlike Forest fans to talk about the past. Nottingham Forest 🤣 never heard of them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 7 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said: ....I thought that was not part of the FFP ruling!!! We would surely be in breach of this, if that was the case. Didn't Manchester City get away with it by some creative description of increase revenue? man city hired a couple of ‘elite’ bricklayers from abroad at about £40m a pop. During a tea break kick-a-bout on their first day the director of football, who happen to be visiting, noticed that these so called elite bricklayers were a dab hand at football so they instantly removed them from the building site (replacing them with a couple of apprentices from moss side) and signed them on for free. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 21 minutes ago, OntarioFox said: Do think a couple of extra thousand seats wouldn't go amiss, but 40k is a solid start. I still think that, with continued success, our matchday attendance has the potential to regularly draw 45k or more given our catchment area and current undisputed position as the best club in the East Midlands. Can't count any chickens, of course, and I think any future expansion would be reliant on improved transport links to the ground as well as where we find ourselves in the league at that point. Let's see if the rumours of the Ivanhoe Line extension as a trade-off for using Ashby as a construction base for HS2 have any weight, because I think a rail link would be a pre-requisite for us to ever draw much bigger crowds without serious strain on the city's road network. I think a station is the sort of thing the club would help fund in any future expansion proposal. The possibility of matchday rail traffic massively boosts the business case for the line so it'd be a bit of a win-win, considering it would only cost them about what we just paid for Patson Daka to bankroll, if the (slightly farcical and purposely inflated to discourage approval) last feasibility study is anything to go by. Would probably split the arrival of away fans to the two ends of the ground may affect where the away fans end up in the expanded East Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey O'Neil Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Happy to see (mostly) positivity in this thread. My initial thought was "meh" at 40k. However, when someone pointed out it's a 25% increase, I thought "that's actually decent". There will be a new club shop, arena, hotel, multi-storey car park (i'm guessing for arena and hotel ??) etc Listening to them on the radio tonight, it really does sound like a phased process. There's a long-term plan for the club, we just need to be patient and trust Top. I'm hoping the final product will be a totally redesigned stadium that looks far from what we have now. I don't dislike our stadium at all, but I just think the vision of Top goes beyond what many of us could imagine. Bring it on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo78 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 40,000 is a good jump at this stage, I'm the type of fan that works random weekends and so can't commit to a season ticket. But equally I like to go with a group of friends which is impossible to sit with at current capacity. If we have capacity to buy tickets on the day with people you know this will mean I see more games. As others have said, Top is a billionaire!! his tastes will be mustard and I expect the stadium at every step will be the stuff of dreams, much like the training ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastik Man Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 I dunno why anyone is worried it's only an increase of 8k? Stick a big screen in the new arena and the capacity is upto 46k at least. Bloody clever if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 9 hours ago, ealingfox said: I've had this argument with people on here before so I'm not going to get into it, but if you won't go unless you can sit with a specific group of 9 other people, then you don't really want to go. Not really going to win me parent of the year though is it? Sending my 9 year old daughter to sit on her own because I really want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 These plans appear to be a good step in the right direction considering our rise over the last 5 years. Undoubtedly, if we continue on this path further expansion will follow in the years to come. Onwards and upwards!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSi13 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Have to admit, like a few on here I was a bit underwhelmed at a rise of just 8,000. I'm keen to see the plans because if it's anything like the leaked "plans" then surely that would rule out an expansion to the Kop and Family Stands as the East would wrap around them to a significant degree: That leaves a potential expansion to the West Stand but as others have said that will be difficult due to its current construction and the canal behind it. I honestly hope there's a long term plan here because at 40k this would take us from 13th to 10th in the current Premier League stadium table, leapfrogging Southampton, Leeds and Everton. However Everton are now building a 53,000 seater stadium and Leeds are developing plans to expand Elland Road to 55,000. Therefore we'd be spending a lot of money to just leapfrog Southampton. I'm doubtful this would move the needle in terms of how we are viewed by the neutral in relation to the size of the football club. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing the plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 19 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said: I'm keen to see the plans because if it's anything like the leaked "plans" then surely that would rule out an expansion to the Kop and Family Stands as the East would wrap around them to a significant degree Only temporarily. I'm sure in the future if there were expansions to those other stands, then the necessary construction will just take place to accommodate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_LCFC14 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Any ideas of the cost of the project? Is it being funded by the club or KP? The investment of this and Seagrave really shows how lucky we are to have our owners. This is how you build a legacy for many generations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSi13 Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Only temporarily. I'm sure in the future if there were expansions to those other stands, then the necessary construction will just take place to accommodate it. Which, once again IF the leaks are correct that would A) cost an absolute fortune to reconfigure the new East Stand to accommodate expansions to the Kop and Family Stand or B) look an absolute mess trying to squeeze an expansion along side the wrap around: Let's see what the club shows us. I'm personally hoping we're going down the Molineux route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 28 July 2021 Share Posted 28 July 2021 Anyone who is complaining about the size of our expansion is obviously trying to compensate for something 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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