turlo Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 6 minutes ago, ftfagos said: Break & fracture are synonymous. I am a medical professional. Regarding the injury, although little Wes says fractured fibula, given the degree of angulation of the foot and the force involved I will be surprised if there is not some associated ligament damage. is the ligament damage something that would be identified by further scans and a specialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 22 minutes ago, Babylon said: No I don't agree he's sliding in, he jumps in and his foots above above the ball. He might well have been going for the ball, but that is a reckless attempt. Wes doesn't throw his weight onto his left leg. Their player is so high, his leg goes over the top of Wes (when he dangles a let to try and get the ball) and then from there his body weight pins his leg. It's a bit high, he's off the ground and not in control and a needless amount of force. I'm not going to sit here and say he meant it, I don't think many would want to injure another player. We're looking at the exact same thing and seeing different things so I think it's best to agree to disagree at this point Be all and end all, it's an absolute sucker punch and I hope Wes is back on the grass as soon as possible. I genuinely can't remember the last time I felt that bad watching a game. Wes and Justin's injuries affected me a lot more than any game we've lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cropwellfox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 May well not know full extent by this afternoons press conference, depending which specialists the club want to involve in diagnosing full extent of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 1 hour ago, filbertway said: That's fine, I'd hope any of our players would look to give someone a bit back if they felt aggrieved. Hes won the ball for God sake It's only because Wes has planted his foot between ball and man rather than carried on dribbling that the massively unfortunate injury happened. Benalouanes was a nasty reckless challenge, this wasnt. Te most annoying thing tbh was that he was rolling around after when Wes was genuinely badly injured. For that I'd have been happy to someone deck him haha Please read the laws of the game this is irreverent in judging serious foul play..... A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. I'm fed up of fans and pundits talking about whether players won the ball or not, its irreverent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Really upset about this. I was at the game last night and completely lost interest after this happened. Fofana was having an outstanding game too. He was looking so sharp. It’s difficult to stress just how good little Wes is. Not just for his age. I can easily see him playing for Barcelona or Bayern Munich in the future, if he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Please read the laws of the game this is irreverent in judging serious foul play..... A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. I'm fed up of fans and pundits talking about whether players won the ball or not, its irreverent. That's fine, as long as you feel the same when our players do it countless times throughout the coming season then that's fine, I respect that. Whether they win the ball cleanly or not if they go into a challenge with force then it should be a red. I just can't stand the hypocrisy of football fans, if the roles were reversed yesterday, I guarantee the majority would be seeing it from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Could be back in 3-4 months if no associated ligament damage. If there is ligament damage, you can double that easily and more. News so far seems encouraging, but we need more clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Fofana is so good you could ask him to replace tielmans in midfield and after a few games we'd be wondering how much we could get for tielmans..obviously I'm exaggerating but you just get the impression with him that he has no limits...I wouldn't have been surprised if he scored 4 or 5 this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 2 minutes ago, filbertway said: That's fine, as long as you feel the same when our players do it countless times throughout the coming season then that's fine, I respect that. Whether they win the ball cleanly or not if they go into a challenge with force then it should be a red. I just can't stand the hypocrisy of football fans, if the roles were reversed yesterday, I guarantee the majority would be seeing it from my perspective. I don't have an issue whether colour shirt the player is wearing. You will not see a tackle like that go unpunished in the PL due to VAR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntman_Mike Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 4 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Could be back in 3-4 months if no associated ligament damage. If there is ligament damage, you can double that easily and more. News so far seems encouraging, but we need more clarity. I'm no medical expert but if he returns in that time based on the photos circulating, it will be a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecity23 Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 That dozy ref last night didn't even give a free kick and allowed play to go on for a bit afterwards. How can you be that incompetent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 We are due some good news regards to serious injuries to our players. Ricardo, Justin, Barnes and a few others ended up being out way longer than first thought. Fofana back inside 6 months please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 19 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Does anybody have a timeframe for Evans' return? No. Literally nobody. Not even Evans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davieG Posted 5 August 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 August 2021 2 minutes ago, orangecity23 said: That dozy ref last night didn't even give a free kick and allowed play to go on for a bit afterwards. How can you be that incompetent? I thought from the very 1st decision he had to make he looked out of his depth and lacking the necessary experience to ref a fast moving free flowing game. He looked like a lost boy at times. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 2 minutes ago, davieG said: I thought from the very 1st decision he had to make he looked out of his depth and lacking the necessary experience to ref a fast moving free flowing game. He looked like a lost boy at times. This. How shambolic was their second goal? Bloke was one of the worst refs I've seen at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyLGK Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 1 hour ago, KFS said: It’s 4am here and I’ve not even needed my alarm to wake me up, first thought was to check on little Wes. Up until that I was so excited for the season, pasting the Europa League winners and everyone looking sharp. It’d be ok if Evans was here but we’ve now just lost a number of points because of that injury before a ball is even kicked. He’s that good. I was also awake randomly at 4:30am this morning - and checked on Wes - it's heart-breaking! I was also buzzing watching our incredible performance last night - now I'm just very, very concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Parafox Posted 5 August 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 August 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, tom27111 said: Where's @Parafox? I need to know more Can you have 6 weeks in plaster, do 4 weeks of training and be back? We were desperate for 3 points tonight, but not at this cost. The fibula is the thinner bone that is adjacent to the tibia which is the "shin bone". Potentially it can take up to 6 weeks before it can take any weight and up to 3-6 months for the person to fully return to a normal routine, depending on the fitness and age of the person, the the site and severity of the fracture including any soft tissue injuries such as ligaments and the ability to operate on it successfully. Usually the leg is in plaster for the first 4 weeks and if x-rays show good healing then they can have a surgical boot and start to weight-bear gradually, followed by long spell of physio I imagine we have top sports injury doctors and physios on the staff and there will be max effort put in to get him back asap. Edited 5 August 2021 by Parafox 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 5 minutes ago, SecretPro said: This. How shambolic was their second goal? Bloke was one of the worst refs I've seen at this level. He went over to check if the player was injured, realised they'd taken the free-kick and didn't stop the game, allowing the goal from a free-kick 15 yards away from the original foul (not even sure it was). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 3 minutes ago, Corky said: He went over to check if the player was injured, realised they'd taken the free-kick and didn't stop the game, allowing the goal from a free-kick 15 yards away from the original foul (not even sure it was). Utter madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Brendan unlikely to know today on the extent of the injury ref ligament damage will have to wait for scans then treatment can be planned ref operation - pin requirement etc , which specialist/where Gonna potentially be more difficult for bouba to settle as his mate will probably want to go to s of france to recover initially whilst he can’t do anything on the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Obviously it’s nothing like the same situation, but I’ve got the same sick feeling thinking about this as when the helicopter went down. If only this… if only that… Just hope the lad makes a full recovery and gets his career back on track. Bad for us of course but I’m sure we’ll manage one way or another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 11 minutes ago, Corky said: He went over to check if the player was injured, realised they'd taken the free-kick and didn't stop the game, allowing the goal from a free-kick 15 yards away from the original foul (not even sure it was). I genuinely didn’t know they’d scored until I saw the scoreboard change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 6 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Brendan unlikely to know today on the extent of the injury ref ligament damage will have to wait for scans then treatment can be planned ref operation - pin requirement etc , which specialist/where Gonna potentially be more difficult for bouba to settle as his mate will probably want to go to s of france to recover initially whilst he can’t do anything on the leg I doubt he’ll be going anywhere with the facilities at Seagrave it will give him the best opportunity for recovery. As well as anti-gravity treadmills we also have a water treadmill so after a few days he’ll be straight into rehab to get him back ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 14 minutes ago, Corky said: He went over to check if the player was injured, realised they'd taken the free-kick and didn't stop the game, allowing the goal from a free-kick 15 yards away from the original foul (not even sure it was). Given it was a head injury as well, it was more than incompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eblair Posted 5 August 2021 Share Posted 5 August 2021 Obviously different level of medical stuff and ability but on my Sunday team two of team have done something similar. Both of them dislocated their ankles as well, and that completely screwed em both. Fingers crossed it’s not too bad, but pictures looked so bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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