Ian Wright abuse today

[Carl the Llama]

Just utterly disgusting behaviour, a lifetime ban would be getting off lightly. 

[Carl the Llama]

2 minutes ago, flanimal said:

Some people see ideological subversion (or whatever you want to call it, 'wokeness', 'identity politics') as a serious threat, the thin end of the wedge. They will never cheer it on, if they think it's a disguise for something insidious.

Is that how you see it?

[flanimal]

2 minutes ago, The_77 said:

This is the biggest bunch of crap I’ve ever read. Wtf is “cultural Marxism” or “race communism”? What are you talking about? You have no idea  

 

Race Communism = the re-distribution of wealth, power and property along racial lines.

 

Ash Sarkar from Novara Media explained it as such. She writes for The Guardian.

 

[The_77]

Just now, flanimal said:

 

Race Communism = the re-distribution of wealth, power and property along racial lines.

 

Ash Sarkar from Novara Media explained it as such. She writes for The Guardian.

 

Jesus Christ. 

[flanimal]

7 minutes ago, The_77 said:

 

 

Players are sick of racism. They’ve been so f**king clear about what they’re doing. But you just want to keep ignoring them and making excuses for those morons.

I never made excuses for racial abuse, so watch what you're saying.

[The_77]

1 minute ago, flanimal said:

 

Race Communism = the re-distribution of wealth, power and property along racial lines.

 

Ash Sarkar from Novara Media explained it as such. She writes for The Guardian.

 

Players are taking the knee for one thing and one thing only, as they say time and time again, you absolute melt. 

[flanimal]

4 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Is that how you see it?

I don't know what to think, that's why I try and listen to both sides.

[The_77]

3 minutes ago, flanimal said:

I never made excuses for racial abuse, so watch what you're saying.

Watch what you’re saying and who you’re making excuses for. 

[flanimal]

1 minute ago, The_77 said:

Players are taking the knee for one thing and one thing only, as they say time and time again, you absolute melt. 

There's  no need to be rude, we're having a discussion.There's no need for petty insults.

 

I have no doubts the players are acting in good faith, I understand that. Racial justice is a noble pursuit.

 

But that doesn't mean some people have doubts about what's behind the BLM organisation.

 

Including this player, for one:
https://www.voice-online.co.uk/sport/football/2021/01/11/footballer-refuses-to-take-the-knee-as-he-has-his-doubts-over-black-lives-matter-campaign/

[flanimal]

4 minutes ago, The_77 said:

Watch what you’re saying and who you’re making excuses for. 

I never made excuses for racist abuse. Stop acting tough, and grow up.

[Carl the Llama]

3 minutes ago, flanimal said:

 

Race Communism = the re-distribution of wealth, power and property along racial lines.

 

Ash Sarkar from Novara Media explained it as such. She writes for The Guardian.

 

Of course it's a Sargon video   I've watched a lot of his videos to 'try and listen to both sides' as you put it.  After years following him I can only conclude he's a clever orator who likes to teach so-called traditional values like misogyny and race realism.  Everything he says and does is specifically crafted to drag people into a world where everyone is against you and only a few special people like his viewers understand what's really going on.  Like a more quaint q-anon.  It's populism at it's finest.  

[flanimal]

1 minute ago, Carl the Llama said:

Of course it's a Sargon video   I've watched a lot of his videos to 'try and listen to both sides' as you put it.  After years following him I can only conclude he's a clever orator who likes to teach so-called traditional values like misogyny and race realism.  Everything he says and does is specifically crafted to drag people into a world where everyone is against you and only a few special people like his viewers understand what's really going on.  Like a more quaint q-anon.  It's populism at it's finest.  

Well, I linked to that video to quote Ask Sarkar herself, with her own words.

[Chrysalis]

Unacceptable, sickening that people like that are still around.

[Foxxed]

Yes yes. Our culture is under attack. The black communist feminists are coming for Oadby, Melton and Syston. It is only by racially abusing Ian Wright that you can save the country.

[The_77]

25 minutes ago, flanimal said:

I never made excuses for racist abuse. Stop acting tough, and grow up.

If you think people rightfully calling out your nonsense is them acting tough, then you got way more problems than I thought. 

[Carl the Llama]

1 hour ago, flanimal said:

Well, I linked to that video to quote Ask Sarkar herself, with her own words.

Well if people are booing the kneeling because they take issue with a random talking head's take on 'woke culture' that they saw in a Sargon of Akkad video I guess it's alright then.  Fear of communism is more important than addressing actual problems.

Edited 8 August 2021 by Carl the Llama

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, flanimal said:

I don't know what to think, that's why I try and listen to both sides.

Listening to both viewpoints is fine, in fact that's the way discourse should happen.

 

However, on this particular matter and a few others, it's reasonably evident that one doesn't have to listen for very long in order to make their minds up about the debate.

[leicsmac]

With respect to the topic itself, find them and ban them from the ground for life at the least.

[Le Renard]

Why would you boo taking a knee, unless you've been brainwashed by the right wing tabloid media!  Harry Kane et al are hardly radical and are not going to bring down the pillars of society.  A certain part of the media have to toxify any movement that they see as a threat to their interests, they have done it with socialism & liberalism and now it is the so called unemployed scroungers, Wokeness & BLM.   Everyone needs someone to p**s on!

Being half Irish I had my fair share of crap stereotypes directed at me during school in the 80's, but I thought the Irish abuse that keane got, had gone away.  The usual excuse is "It is just banter", but it is a cover for a being a w****r.

 

Edited 8 August 2021 by Le Renard

[Metal Lover]

I'm so sad Ian Wright is calling us out. Whoever was involved should f off. 

[The_77]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/dec/08/david-squires-on-the-booing-of-footballers-taking-a-knee
 

[filthyfox]

1) I dont think ANYONE can condone what Ian Wright described.  It is criminal.  FULL STOP.

 

2) I have never agreed with taking the knee.  There should be a unique gesture in English football that is not associated in any form with political organisations like BLM (I wont call it Black Lives Matter, because it's not just about that, is it?).  BUT I wouldn't boo it.

 

Point 2 doesnt make me racist, does it?

[The_77]

1 minute ago, filthyfox said:

1) I dont think ANYONE can condone what Ian Wright described.  It is criminal.  FULL STOP.

 

2) I have never agreed with taking the knee.  There should be a unique gesture in English football that is not associated in any form with political organisations like BLM (I wont call it Black Lives Matter, because it's not just about that, is it?).  BUT I wouldn't boo it.

 

Point 2 doesnt make me racist, does it?

No but it makes you stubborn and kinda ignorant sounding. That’s the gesture, big deal. The players have been so clear, time and time again, about what they’re doing but it’s not good enough for you and what you want it to be. 

[The_77]

Also, anyone who had anything racist to say/mouth/mine to Wright is an asshole. Simple as that. 

[Tazfox]

Don't know if it was just me but I felt like there was a higher percentage of our "dickhead" fans in attendance yesterday than usual. As others have said you end up feeling a little bit embarrassed of being associated with them.