dbtcity Posted 9 August 2021 Author Share Posted 9 August 2021 46 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Have re-signed Kante? To be fair I don’t imagine wilfs stats hugely differ from Kantes when it comes to defensive cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 7 minutes ago, NewquayFox said: Mings played at full back for Ipswich, always thought he looked out of place playing there… Same thing when Dan Burn plays full back for Brighton. Towers over everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 If Dan Burn can play left back then this lump can play right wing no bother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 Jannik Vestagardinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 Is he genuinely a free-kick taker? I find that so bizarre if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 15 minutes ago, dbtcity said: To be fair I don’t imagine wilfs stats hugely differ from Kantes when it comes to defensive cover True most likely. The point here is, replacing a Ferrari with a Moped is not really going to help our cause. We need to find a more suitable stop-gap solution whilst Little Wes is out of commission. Lack of pace gets murdered in the EPL unless you play a very deep block. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Seem to remember West Brom saying similar things about Evans. It's hard for defenders playing in shite teams. Surely not? It was always the general consensus that he was one of the best cbs outside the super league clubs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 1 minute ago, Carl the Llama said: Surely not? It was always the general consensus that he was one of the best cbs outside the super league clubs... I remember them saying he was great and then struggled in the last 6 months or something. Out side their club though, he was absolutely regarded as one of the best CBs. Linked to Arsenal and even to Man City at one stage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 3 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: Surely not? It was always the general consensus that he was one of the best cbs outside the super league clubs... I think West Brom fans wanted rid of Evans due to the whole taxi thing and supposedly "downing tools" whilst being captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 Don´t rate him at all. Apart from his height Vestergaard is prone to making stupid mistakes and costing goals. He is slow and would not fit our playing style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 4 minutes ago, TheStig said: Don´t rate him at all. Apart from his height Vestergaard is prone to making stupid mistakes and costing goals. He is slow and would not fit our playing style. Evans is slow. Vestergaard loves to play out from the back. I would prefer better but if you consider Evans is due back in 1 month and long-term we have Fofana back too, this is not bad for a 4th choice CB. He also dramatically improves one of our key weaknesses. Defending set plays and scoring from them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 49 minutes ago, mozartfox said: True most likely. The point here is, replacing a Ferrari with a Moped is not really going to help our cause. We need to find a more suitable stop-gap solution whilst Little Wes is out of commission. Lack of pace gets murdered in the EPL unless you play a very deep block. Problem is we don't have money for a Ferrari at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Babylon Posted 9 August 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 9 August 2021 Can people stop saying he's slow, Jonny Evans is bloody slow and we're all happy with him. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 Evans is quicker than people think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 3 minutes ago, ronnup said: Evans is quicker than people think He certainly isn't quite like Fofana or Cags though It also massively helps that he is a brilliant reader of the game, and Jonny is usually already moving into position to defend/intercept or whatever before the attacker has a chance to get going or get onto a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 5 minutes ago, Babylon said: Can people stop saying he's slow, Jonny Evans is bloody slow and we're all happy with him. 12 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Evans is slow. Vestergaard loves to play out from the back. I would prefer better but if you consider Evans is due back in 1 month and long-term we have Fofana back too, this is not bad for a 4th choice CB. He also dramatically improves one of our key weaknesses. Defending set plays and scoring from them. Yes agree Evans is slow but he seems to have a positional awareness and controls the defensive line. Vestergaard does not. In the Danish national team he is 2nd string to Kjær and if he is to replace Evans he doesn´t have what it takes. And Im not sure he´d come here to be 4th solution when he plays regularly at Southampton. But yes - his strength his heading ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheStig said: Yes agree Evans is slow but he seems to have a positional awareness and controls the defensive line. Vestergaard does not. In the Danish national team he is 2nd string to Kjær and if he is to replace Evans he doesn´t have what it takes. And Im not sure he´d come here to be 4th solution when he plays regularly at Southampton. But yes - his strength his heading ability. Probably unfair to Kjær really, he is national captain and starting centre back at AC Milan, still a very good player. What Kjær does for Denmark and AC Milan is probably the equivalent of Jonny for us. Edited 9 August 2021 by moore_94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 1 hour ago, mozartfox said: True most likely. The point here is, replacing a Ferrari with a Moped is not really going to help our cause. We need to find a more suitable stop-gap solution whilst Little Wes is out of commission. Lack of pace gets murdered in the EPL unless you play a very deep block. If it's a funky moped we'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 No fannying around, get him in ready for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles2lcfc Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 We miss those speed demons Morgan and Huth! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 2 minutes ago, miles2lcfc said: We miss those speed demons Morgan and Huth! Tbf we played a very different system with those two. No nonsense ready to counter. We have so much of the ball under Rodgers that someone cocking it up (Perez ) creates a turnover that we then need to defend quickly. Im still not over it clearly because with Fofana and Soy we could get everyone up on at least half way and suffocate teams in their own half without too much fear of turnover. Simply by losing little Wes we’ll have to change that up for the season start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxCal Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 2 minutes ago, miles2lcfc said: We miss those speed demons Morgan and Huth! They never needed to be. We always sat deep and countered when that was our pairing. They’d be run ragged in a Rodgers side because we play so much higher up. I don’t think pace is the be all and end all for a centre back (quite the opposite, generally speaking) but it’s certainly a factor playing the way that we do. It gets exposed fairly frequently even with our quicker defenders available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 Only time Ive seen pace being an issue is when we've played a high line and the opposition plays a long ball over the top of every one which usually means our back 2 defenders get caught in a sprinting match against a striker much faster than them. If Kasper reads it he sprints out and saves us otherwise we're in deep doo doo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s11nny Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: Only time Ive seen pace being an issue is when we've played a high line and the opposition plays a long ball over the top of every one which usually means our back 2 defenders get caught in a sprinting match against a striker much faster than them. If Kasper reads it he sprints out and saves us otherwise we're in deep doo doo. Which is every game almost besides when we play the traditional big 6. Most of the mid to lower table sides all play defensively and try to counter us whilst we spend most the game passing sideways trying to find a way through. I think in these games he would struggle Edited 9 August 2021 by s11nny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 9 August 2021 Share Posted 9 August 2021 5 minutes ago, s11nny said: Which is every game almost besides when we play the traditional big 6. Most of the mid to lower table sides all play defensively and try to counter us whilst we spend most the game passing sideways trying to find a way through. I think in these games he would struggle Maguire is probably the slowest defender around but still lauded as one of the best in the league. I think we would cope fine. We already do with Evans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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