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Something doesn't make sense or seem right...

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CrispinLA in Texas

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38 minutes ago, kiwiturk said:

I've really had enough with this injuries bulls*it.

Liverpool and Chelsea and other members of big 6 gone through similar or worse periods in past 2 season so Nope Nope Nope .

We do need to take a good look at yourself and admit that our flare gone.

BR's outdated, ineffective game plans is not working anymore.

He failed to progress as well as reinvent and reinnovate himself.

 

 

The problem is he likes small squads which results the players having to play more games even when they are mentally exhausted which usually results making in errors thus getting injured. 

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sacreblueits442

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5 hours ago, Matt said:

We just don’t look like a team.


It’s like they’ve never even played in the same team before at times.

 

Unless it’s passing between the centre back pairings. Saying that even then it’s full of mistakes and hospital passes.

....it is quite significant that we use to attempt to retrieve the ball instantly as soon as we lost it!!!

We do not do that anymore, it has taken the tempo out of our game and we struggle to keep any pressure on and effectively defend from the front. Playing out from the back is the accepted way of getting to the next level, the big boys does it, there is for Rodgers only one way to progress this team and that is to continue to play  in this fashion, we either get the players in who can play this way or we can play on the front foot. He will not opt for the latter.

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16 hours ago, Bozman said:

{6 games in and 2 wins from 2nd place } = 4 points from bottom 3. So we play 2 more games and get to 13 points and we are 2nd like nobody else is playing a game.

Thankfully most people are able to differentiate between "2 wins from 2nd place" and what I actually wrote "2 wins (6 points) from the team in 2d place" - which of course is an objective FACT and not a subjective opinion.

 

Nonetheless, suffice it to note that after the same number of games last season, the eventual champions Man City was at mid-table and suffering from a poor run of form (including a 2-5 loss to us at their own place). Similarly, with 7 games left in the same season (ie, more games than we have played this season), Liverpool was 10 points behind us having suffered an even poorer run of form than we have this season - including a run of six consecutive home defeats!

 

European (and league) places are NOT decided in September! How the elementary concept of the oscillation of form and log positions throughout a long football season seems to be apparently incomprehensible to some is quite the mystery.    

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15 hours ago, Bozman said:

The truth is we look bang average, we played a team last night that would be mid table  championship at the best, lose Saturday and the shit hits the fan..

Again, not quite sure how my assertion that "we have not been playing well" seems to have completely befuddled you.

 

Nonetheless, suffice it to also point out that there's been only ONE league game so far that we did not appear to be at the races (away at West Ham). Every other game, we have looked capable of getting something from (including the Man City game). 

 

Meanwhile, not sure exactly how you've determined that Legia Warsaw "would be mid table championship at best" but suffice to note that Man Utd lost to Young Boys, an even lower-ranked side. That's football - on any given day a team can beat a "better" team.

 

Get a grip folks! It's barely 6 games into a 38-game league season, which is adjudged at the END of the season. Of course, if you are just one of those folks who love misery for company, then have at it Hoss!

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45 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....it is quite significant that we use to attempt to retrieve the ball instantly as soon as we lost it!!!

We do not do that anymore, it has taken the tempo out of our game and we struggle to keep any pressure on and effectively defend from the front. Playing out from the back is the accepted way of getting to the next level, the big boys does it, there is for Rodgers only one way to progress this team and that is to continue to play  in this fashion, we either get the players in who can play this way or we can play on the front foot. He will not opt for the latter.

Obviously not privy to our training, but those tactics seemed to leave us leggy later in the (business end of) season.  

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43 minutes ago, kiwiturk said:

I've really had enough with this injuries bulls*it.

Liverpool and Chelsea and other members of big 6 gone through similar or worse periods in past 2 season so Nope Nope Nope .

We do need to take a good look at yourself and admit that our flare gone.

BR's outdated, ineffective game plans is not working anymore.

He failed to progress as well as reinvent and reinnovate himself.

 

 

Thats Really a pathetic comparison....

There is a massive Chase between them & our squad's in-depth quality.... 

If even Shows with our Bline...

Two seasons ago our bline were playing consistent Quality football....last season we discovered Fofana & Castagna, who helped balance for awhile

Any chitters...Evans could be Nursed upto Maybe the last 2 months.. Soyuncu & Ndidis-Vardys injury-return shown that they were still Off the pace,only

Vardy seems this season to have Returns with that bounce, that only Vardy can have...

Having Fofana,Soyu,Evans & fringe Amartey, & Ndidi in Front of them had no inkling of further quality. Though We seemed last season to have

Rekindled & shown Mendy's.  Good-Top performances...Our only two high-Octane Player- makers, Tielemans & Maddison, have Not returned Anywhere

Near their Top form.....We,Leicester with our resources Simply just cant carry These letztes & Drop inform...There are no replacements of that higher caliber

Level of skill & mental aproach....The Top  4 plus the other hot-Cold Top 6.  Cover that easily, Whats so difficult to understand that...!!!ich

 

Though the last 3 points are Frustration to Read & hold up, are more than worthy points...

I thought the last game against Burnley, that Front 6 selection, showed that fans screaming intent, & it was working, we moved the ball well,

then Lost confidence for a while After Vardy's OG, and after a Great Burnley goal.Gut through the 90 minutes we created 'Seemingly' clear chances,

we couldn t convert, 2-3 more goals would Not have been an injustice, on our own play..!!!

In Poland, again the Front 6 due to circumstances  was IMO a Good call, we dont have those Quality covering players yet...again we had chances.

 

But our Bline, our Team defence are well Off it, they do hold up well, thent it seems every Error Brings a goal,and they at this Moment cant handle any

Shape or Form the Press..!!

And Yes we are consistently  far too slow in moving the ball from the back & sidelines when attacking....

Only positive Rodgers admits it,  and  admits its his job..

I reckon two things...

# have a 5-10 Second period, in periods where the Defensive Triangle & 1-2s must push or just kick the ball forward targetting a Space or teamates.

# Have Another period of playing from our Defender& Dm a bit of kick and rush towards our Front men ,though again deliberate to agreed space or man

   giving, either Lookman,Nacho,Vardy,Barnes,Daka to Run into or onto...occasionally blindly...

     Allison und Shankly used to say sometimes a Good group

   of forwards Occasionally have to Take the responsibility of picking up or taking those none Perfect balls, it helps with and against the press...

   & sometimes the Defender Need to delibrately sows a seed of a Pass ....or then again, wildly throw  out the seeds...

 

its Now up to Rodgers to solve & change the issues & problems within our whole Teams tactics, or even our Top players will stagnate and find it hard

to Pull themselves & team out of a rut....

An improving in Form  Maddison, would help, neither he nor the Team can afford, no matter what the mitigating circumstances ,

2 seasons of consistently Dropping-off & rekindling that Form he needs to have..!!

 

Perez is a selection enigma...nearly every Team & manager usually has one, but again hes had Good moments & games this season...

I still believe Soumare...Nacho...Albrighton would be the better choice, Maybe even Daka if Changing Format

but  I would Never hang a manager on 1-2 selection disparities...

Ditto with Nacho, where Rodgers has to look over the seasons bigger picture, there are no less priority competitions, so Early in the season...

Top 6, aspirations, means a Club has a Duty to compete in all...Or they dont  deserve the Tag to be called proffessional..Top Teams can take that risk,

their squad & Youth Teams have a lot better in depth Quality than our own..!!

 

 

 

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On 01/10/2021 at 22:04, Pliskin said:

Or has He been backed? I’m wondering if he wanted Philipe, but the club wouldn’t entertain the idea, and subsequently he’s taken the hump. My opinion only, but o get the impression he’s pissed off with something. 

Good point, was he not quite vocal, early in the summer anyway about how pleased he was at the business the club had done?

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Picking out one point from Fuchsntf long post, I've suggested on another thread that we should try the long pass out of defence more often.

 

It may look at first sight that I'm talking about "lumping the ball up", but that's not the case.  I mean targeted passes up to one of our attackers.  These passes will take a few gos to begin to work because we are simply not in the habit of playing that way, but as we persist with these passes they will become more fruitful - our attackers will start to expect them and move more purposefully towards spaces, and our defenders will hone their skills at aiming the passes to where the attacker wants them.

 

As justification, I pointed to the balls we used to play out of defence in our Prem-winning season.  So often Vardy just pointed and the ball was sent up into that space, often to devastating effect (best example was Fuchs' pass to Vardy for his record-breaking goal v Man U).

 

The advantages of this tactic is that it puts the action in the opponent's half, as compared with p*ssing about with it between our own defenders, back in ourvhalf, and putting ourselves into trouble.  Also, if our midfield are expecting such a tactic they can push themselves up more quickly in support and pick up the 2nd balls if the long pass isn't perfect.  This transforms the whole dynamic into putting more pressure on the opposition defence.

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I don't know if its a problem that will effect us more than most but, our team is/was built on strong characters stepping up when needed and everyone else doing the basic 100% perfect all the time....that takes a lot of mental strength and perhaps the last year or two has taken its toll on some of our players, perhaps they're not the same mentally, world's pretty ****ed up atm, we've got a young team, not all as mature as they could be.

There's definitely a lack of spark in the team and people in general, the crowd...where was the roar for 5mins extra vs Burnley, we'd just equalised 3 points to be had, the KP was quiet. That's not us!

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2 hours ago, Heskey2011 said:

I don't know if its a problem that will effect us more than most but, our team is/was built on strong characters stepping up when needed and everyone else doing the basic 100% perfect all the time....that takes a lot of mental strength and perhaps the last year or two has taken its toll on some of our players, perhaps they're not the same mentally, world's pretty ****ed up atm, we've got a young team, not all as mature as they could be.

There's definitely a lack of spark in the team and people in general, the crowd...where was the roar for 5mins extra vs Burnley, we'd just equalised 3 points to be had, the KP was quiet. That's not us!

You're probably right. Even though Wes, Fuchs, James etc weren't making the team I can imagine they had a real presence around the place and would never let the expected standard drop. 

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According to Opta, Leicester's total shots in the second half of games are almost double their first half total (48 to 26), while their expected goals are up from 2.81 to 5.31. 

 

Leicester's success over the past two seasons has come from their urgency both in and out of possession, however, the statistics show that this facet of the Foxes' game has dropped in the past six games.  

According to Opta, tackles have dropped from 18.5 per game before the international break to 14.8, interceptions are down from 11.0 to 6.8 while possession won in the final third has fallen from 3.8 to 2.7.

 

Leicester's shot conversion has fallen from 15.2 per cent to 9.5 per cent in the past six games.

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