Who next after Brendan?

[thursday_next]

13 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

No Leicester fan would say Pearson is a twat. 

 

You clearly haven't spent a lot of time on Bentley's Roof 

[Unabomber]

3 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

He was okay but certainly not one of our most successful compared to Gillies, O Neil, Ranieri of course and Rodgers. Even Bloomfield had a better record. 

Wait also he’s way better then Rodgers! Wtf

[Unabomber]

Just now, thursday_next said:

 

You clearly haven't spent a lot of time on Bentley's Roof 

Thank **** for that then, sounds like the worst roof ever 

[Craig]

Even if Pearson isn't our best manager, he's certainly our most important.

[Tielemans63]

I don't think he will go this season but if he does, I can imagine the club giving Nuno a short term contract. He wouldn't be my first choice but he can organise a team and a defence so I could see him ticking a few boxes, a bit like Puei did.

[Strokes]

On 16/02/2022 at 02:12, Lambert09 said:

I personally think potter would fit us like a glove

On a foot.

[Unabomber]

5 minutes ago, Craig said:

Even if Pearson isn't our best manager, he's certainly our most important.

Exactly. You can’t compare say him with Rodgers as everything is different, the infrastructure, squad etc. It is Pearson that allowed this to happen yet some stupid fans can’t see that. 

Edited 27 February 2022 by Unabomber

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Simoken said:

I think Brendan Rodgers should get appointed if Brendan Rodgers gets sacked.

If that gives us the new manager bounce we need then do it already.

[foxfanazer]

33 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

He was okay but certainly not one of our most successful compared to Gillies, O Neil, Ranieri of course and Rodgers. Even Bloomfield had a better record. 

Depends what you consider success. He set the foundations for everything that came after him. You can deny that but you'd be making yourself look very silly

[Ric Flair]

14 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Depends what you consider success. He set the foundations for everything that came after him. You can deny that but you'd be making yourself look very silly

Very few managers get to rebuild a club and it truly lead to something, what tends to happen in this era is that there's a club vision ran by Director of Football's, Recruitment Directors and many analysts and Sports Science teams. The club has a model in which it appoints a certain type of manager who fits the way they are ran and there'll perhaps go through several managers along the way, some will be an overall success but may then leave or stagnate and be moved on. Take Brentford for example or some European clubs like Hoffenheim. 

 

However Pearson pretty much built the club with the freedom he needed and then created what we needed to maintain as a blueprint to try and achieve what our owners had their hearts set on. He will never have a PL winners medal against his name, or an FA Cup but I seriously doubt we'd have had the last decade or sons success without him, however incredible our owners are. It was the perfect meeting of minds.

 

So big up Milan Mandaric for appointing Nigel first time around and for finding Vichai and Top to flog the club to 😂😂😂

[Unabomber]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Very few managers get to rebuild a club and it truly lead to something, what tends to happen in this era is that there's a club vision ran by Director of Football's, Recruitment Directors and many analysts and Sports Science teams. The club has a model in which it appoints a certain type of manager who fits the way they are ran and there'll perhaps go through several managers along the way, some will be an overall success but may then leave or stagnate and be moved on. Take Brentford for example or some European clubs like Hoffenheim. 

 

However Pearson pretty much built the club with the freedom he needed and then created what we needed to maintain as a blueprint to try and achieve what our owners had their hearts set on. He will never have a PL winners medal against his name, or an FA Cup but I seriously doubt we'd have had the last decade or sons success without him, however incredible our owners are. It was the perfect meeting of minds.

 

So big up Milan Mandaric for appointing Nigel first time around and for finding Vichai and Top to flog the club to 😂😂😂

Exactly that’s why every Leicester fan between the age of 23 and 43 ****ing loves him. When I see any anti Nige slander I assume they’re a grandad or TPH.

[foxfanazer]

9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Very few managers get to rebuild a club and it truly lead to something, what tends to happen in this era is that there's a club vision ran by Director of Football's, Recruitment Directors and many analysts and Sports Science teams. The club has a model in which it appoints a certain type of manager who fits the way they are ran and there'll perhaps go through several managers along the way, some will be an overall success but may then leave or stagnate and be moved on. Take Brentford for example or some European clubs like Hoffenheim. 

 

However Pearson pretty much built the club with the freedom he needed and then created what we needed to maintain as a blueprint to try and achieve what our owners had their hearts set on. He will never have a PL winners medal against his name, or an FA Cup but I seriously doubt we'd have had the last decade or sons success without him, however incredible our owners are. It was the perfect meeting of minds.

 

So big up Milan Mandaric for appointing Nigel first time around and for finding Vichai and Top to flog the club to 😂😂😂

Absolutely spot on. As great as the owners are/were they were new to football so you can forgive the the Sven appointment. But then to have the foresight to bring Nige back and basically give him full control was genius on their part. They could've kept trying with high profile managers and we could've become a bit of a circus.

 

I simply don't have any interest in arguing with anyone that doesn't recognise Pearson as one of the most important people in the clubs history

Edited 27 February 2022 by foxfanazer

[Mr Weller]

1 hour ago, Unabomber said:

Exactly. You can’t compare say him with Rodgers as everything is different, the infrastructure, squad etc. It is Pearson that allowed this to happen yet some stupid fans can’t see that. 

Not really. It was Thai money that did that.

Like I say, he was okay but by no stretch our most successful manager.

 

He did well in the lower leagues but made a complete hash of our first year in the premier league before fortuitously stumbling on  a style towards the end of that season that suited us.

[Ric Flair]

11 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

Not really. It was Thai money that did that.

Like I say, he was okay but by no stretch our most successful manager.

 

He did well in the lower leagues but made a complete hash of our first year in the premier league before fortuitously stumbling on  a style towards the end of that season that suited us.

That's certainly one way of looking at it, good grief. 

 

 

[foxfanazer]

12 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

Not really. It was Thai money that did that.

Like I say, he was okay but by no stretch our most successful manager.

 

He did well in the lower leagues but made a complete hash of our first year in the premier league before fortuitously stumbling on  a style towards the end of that season that suited us.

Absolute drivel

[Phenom]

9 hours ago, Fox92 said:

No. Why would you want a manager who is on the brink of getting relegated after conceding 60 goals so far.

 

As for resources, he spent £10m in the Championship and £7m of that was on Bamford, £26m on Rodrigo, £10m on Jack Harrison, nearly £30m on Daniel James...

 

I mean, I don’t know if I want him but all those seem like decent signings besides Rodrigo and potentially James, although he’s been better than I though. You also forgot Raphinha.

[deep blue]

6 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

Not really. It was Thai money that did that.

Like I say, he was okay but by no stretch our most successful manager.

 

He did well in the lower leagues but made a complete hash of our first year in the premier league before fortuitously stumbling on  a style towards the end of that season that suited us.

Nonsense.  Pearson used the time in the lower league to start rebuilding the club and then continued, without any big money buys, when brought back the second time.  He built the team that won the Prem and it cost less than a tenth of Man City's squad - a pittance.  He may have only been average at match tactics but there's far more to management than that aspect.

 

You shouldn't try to rewrite the facts in trying to justify your agenda.

[Mr Weller]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

Absolute drivel

Which part? 
Either you’re saying it wasn’t Thai money that did it or he didn’t make a hash of most of our first season in the premier league.

 

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, Mr Weller said:

Which part? 
Either you’re saying it wasn’t Thai money that did it or he didn’t make a hash of most of our first season in the premier league.

 

He was well supported by the Thai's but he built an excellent infrastructure at the club by recruiting a great team of backroom staff. Also his man management skills which have been backed up by the likes of Kasper, Wes and Vardy etc. 

 

As for the season we stayed up I thought we were really competitive for the majority of it and as a promoted side that's all you can really expect. 

 

I find it staggering any Leicester fan needs convincing of the job he did here

[Mr Weller]

6 minutes ago, deep blue said:

Nonsense.  Pearson used the time in the lower league to start rebuilding the club and then continued, without any big money buys, when brought back the second time.  He built the team that won the Prem and it cost less than a tenth of Man City's squad - a pittance.  He may have only been average at match tactics but there's far more to management than that aspect.

 

You shouldn't try to rewrite the facts in trying to justify your agenda.

No agenda and this is about interpretations not facts.

 

Plenty of managers have built a decent team on a limited budget and got us promoted to the top division but in the post war period only Gilles and O Neil then went on to sustain it.

 

Thai money really changed the club, nothing else.

Edited 27 February 2022 by Mr Weller

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

No agenda and this is about interpretations not facts.

 

Plenty of managers have built a decent team on a limited budget and got us promoted to the top division but in the post war period only Gilles and O Neil then went on to sustain it.

 

Thai money really changed the club, nothing else.

How come Sven didn't take us up then? 

[Mr Weller]

Just now, foxfanazer said:

He was well supported by the Thai's but he built an excellent infrastructure at the club by recruiting a great team of backroom staff. Also his man management skills which have been backed up by the likes of Kasper, Wes and Vardy etc. 

 

As for the season we stayed up I thought we were really competitive for the majority of it and as a promoted side that's all you can really expect. 

 

I find it staggering any Leicester fan needs convincing of the job he did here

It’s true we were losing lots of games by the odd goal but we were still virtually  down until he was finally forced to change tactics and play a counter attacking style. 
 

Like I say, a decent enough manager at lower levels but without Thai money it wouldn’t have made that much difference.

[Mr Weller]

2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

How come Sven didn't take us up then? 

He didn’t get it right at Leicester for sure but O Neil, Little, Milne, Wallace and Gillies all got us promoted and apart from Little they did much better than Pearson in their first season.

 

Sven tried to buy his way out and it didn’t quite work. Pearson did which was great, but at the higher level he was found out tactically. 
 

In the end Thai money bought the infrastructure, good administration helped immensely and some great recruitment after Pearson left set us up for a magic season.

[inckley fox]

37 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

He didn’t get it right at Leicester for sure but O Neil, Little, Milne, Wallace and Gillies all got us promoted and apart from Little they did much better than Pearson in their first season.

 

Sven tried to buy his way out and it didn’t quite work. Pearson did which was great, but at the higher level he was found out tactically. 
 

In the end Thai money bought the infrastructure, good administration helped immensely and some great recruitment after Pearson left set us up for a magic season.

That's quite a rewrite of history! I think sometimes this line of argument means discussion unnecessarily descends into a pro/anti-Pearson debate. I mean, people will just feel compelled to put you right on this.

 

Pearson finished 14th in his only post-promotion PL season, and assembled our league-winning team on a shoestring in the process. He was nominated for manager-of-the-year for this which, while a bit of a stretch, still underlines that we can't go around saying things like 'he was found out in the PL'. Most of that summer 2015 recruitment (Huth, Fuchs, Okazaki) was on his watch, and the key post-Pearson signing, Kante, had been his main target.

 

As for the argument that those managers you mentioned, bar Little, did much better than Pearson in their first PL seasons - well, we got relegated under Wallace, didn't we? I'd say that was worse.

 

And no, Thai money wasn't the only thing which turned the club around, as you stated earlier. After eight miserable years (which saw us go down, then nearly go out of business in the process of getting back up, then go down again and finish 15th, 16th, 19th and 22nd in the second tier, eventually falling to our lowest ever league placing) we were resurgent under Pearson. Without going up and reaching the play-offs (while recording a zero net spend) it's highly unlikely we'd have been attractive to KP. And even more unlikely that we'd have been winning the league in 2016. Our owners are wonderful, but the fees they've invested are nowhere near title-contending levels. The signings of Vardy, Mahrez, Drinkwater, Morgan etc. for the reduced fees we spent on them had more to do with the recruitment regime under Pearson than it did to spectacular spending on the board's part.

 

Maybe this is part of the reason for Rodgers' lack of popularity at the moment too. Just as fans credit an open cheque-book for something which was largely down to smart leadership under previous regimes, equally a lot of fans are struggling to accept that our spending doesn't warrant a league position significantly above what we're looking at now. I accept that Rodgers is under-achieving, and that our wage bill belies the squad's ability. I even accept that changes are needed. But, as many others have said, when we come to weigh up who our best managers have been, it'll be those like Rodgers, O'Neill (and Pearson!) who exceeded expectations over a period of time who are top of the list.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Mr Weller said:

Which part? 
Either you’re saying it wasn’t Thai money that did it or he didn’t make a hash of most of our first season in the premier league.

 

Pearson came back to us at a time when we'd blown an absolute fortune under Sven and he understood what we needed to succeed. Only a handful of players remained from that period and although Vichai and Top backed him, it was much more sustainable.

 

We'd never have won the Prem without him or with him. He built the foundations, employed staff who along with himself recruited the majority of the players who helped us win the Prem and much more. Vardy, Mahrez, Morgan, Drinkwater, Fuchs, Huth, Simpson, Albrighton, Okazaki, Ulloa, Wasilweski and not to mention Cambiasso for his role in keeping us up.

 

But I don't think we'd have won it if he'd stayed. He isn't perfect and I think there's a limit to him at the top level but he built this club, it was him and those he employed around him. Our sports science and sorts psychology was world class, as was our scouting and recruitment. He will go down as a massive influence on this club and its fans and to not acknowledge that is baffling.